Why no one calling out Luis Collazo

Williams would kill this timid guy--Collazo just backs off but Paul is way rangey and can easily throw 100 punches a round.

OK, I'll reserve judgement until we find out who his next opponent is. Maybe for the first time in his career, the ball is in Margarito's court. Will he take on someone proven or another prospect? There you go. I'll reserve judgment as well.

why u even speakin 2 me huh i seen baldi clottey jose luis cruz gatti judah hosan Did you really see the Clottey fight and if so do you have a copy? I really want to see what happened as I heard the DQ was really unrighteous

I don't think I'm that hard on Margarito. I mean, if people honestly think he can beat the top fighters in the world, he should be testing himself against the best opposition he can find. I don't think a world champion should be fighting prospects at all. As for his wins, I think the Cintron win was solid. Andrew Lewis had just been destroyed the previous fight by Mayorga. Diaz was a solid fighter, but not that great of a welterweight. The rest of his wins were against guys who had built up records against nobodies and had no shot. I honestly don't believe you can completely duck a guy for 8 years. If there's a will, there's a way... He has only been a title holder for 4 years in which he has had 6 fights. One of those was Cintron and one was Lewis. And you said it yourself he should be testing himself against the best opposition HE CAN. Zab, Shane, and Floyd have all had their chances to fight him and beat him but they didn't. Maybe Margarito is overrated but I won't believe that until somebody proves it. He hasn't lost at WW in almost 10 years and has held a title for about half of the time. You can continue to bash his opponents or you can realize that the only people willing to take him on were contenders looking to make a name for themselves. But all that will change now that his name is in the media and he should start getting bigger fights.

You're too harsh on Margarito. Sure he doesn't have a career defining victory but that is partially because people didn't want to fight him. He destroyed Cintron who although untested was highly regarded. Also Lewis is by no means a great fighter, but he is good and was a welterweight title-holder. Kyvelos and Lujuan were average opponents, but Margarito destroyed them like he should. Some of the better fights like against Mosley or Zab Judah were turned down. That isn't his fault. You are right that Margarito doesn't have any room to challenge a no-hoper in this fight because after all you should be consistently stepping up competition. If he fights Cosme Rivera then I will be legitimately pissed. But if he fights Rivera, Collazo, Williams, Quintana, or Judah I will be fine. Yeah man thats what I don't get. Margarito haters act as if Margarito had lots of trouble beating the fighters he's faced. Margarito destroyed them like an Elite fighter would have or even better.

This thread isn't about how good Collazo is or what he deserves. He obviously deserves a title shot, perhaps a rematch, and more public attention... however... that's not what this is about. No one is calling out Collazo because of how deep the Welterweight division is. There are names who are ranked above his that are easier to beat. In time Collazo will get another shot and people still might not want to call him out simply because the risk doesn't substantiate the reward.

When will Margarito make the best fight when the decision is in his hands? Right now, I would say the best fight is Jose Rivera. I can say confidently that fight will not happen. Margarito is ranked the #2 welterweight in the Ring. That's deceiving because it's based more on him not losing rather than who he beat. He didn't move himself up. He let others actually challenge themselves and fall below him when they lost. I'm still waiting for a legitimate reason for this guy to even be mentioned amongst the top fighters at 147. I'm sorry, but beating Hercules Kyevlos, Sebastian Lujan, Kermit Cintron, and Andrew Lewis just doesn't prove anything at all to me. Any fighter can beat up on no hopers and bums to establish a nice win streak. That doesn't make them great fighters. It makes them protected fighters and that's exactly what Margarito is. He's not in any position to be picking and choosing soft competition. He has a lot to prove... You're too harsh on Margarito. Sure he doesn't have a career defining victory but that is partially because people didn't want to fight him. He destroyed Cintron who although untested was highly regarded. Also Lewis is by no means a great fighter, but he is good and was a welterweight title-holder. Kyvelos and Lujuan were average opponents, but Margarito destroyed them like he should. Some of the better fights like against Mosley or Zab Judah were turned down. That isn't his fault. You are right that Margarito doesn't have any room to challenge a no-hoper in this fight because after all you should be consistently stepping up competition. If he fights Cosme Rivera then I will be legitimately pissed. But if he fights Rivera, Collazo, Williams, Quintana, or Judah I will be fine.

Those fighters you mentioned, Sin, and the WAY Tony beat them is what makes Tony number 2. The people below him do not have a better resume to trump Tony's. Tony tried to get fights w/ Mayorga and Mosley and they never happened. The rating is simple...if the guys below you are not beating better guys, and they are not beating guys as CONVINCINGLY as a higher-ranked fighter, then they MUST be ranked lower. The guy who lost to John Ruiz at Welterweight? Cold as ice.

When will Margarito make the best fight when the decision is in his hands? Right now, I would say the best fight is Jose Rivera. I can say confidently that fight will not happen. Margarito is ranked the #2 welterweight in the Ring. That's deceiving because it's based more on him not losing rather than who he beat. He didn't move himself up. He let others actually challenge themselves and fall below him when they lost. I'm still waiting for a legitimate reason for this guy to even be mentioned amongst the top fighters at 147. I'm sorry, but beating Hercules Kyevlos, Sebastian Lujan, Kermit Cintron, and Andrew Lewis just doesn't prove anything at all to me. Any fighter can beat up on no hopers and bums to establish a nice win streak. That doesn't make them great fighters. It makes them protected fighters and that's exactly what Margarito is. He's not in any position to be picking and choosing soft competition. He has a lot to prove... Margarito vs. Rivera will not happen if Rivera backs down. All Rivera has to do is work something out with his promoter and Bob Arum. Like Margarito said," If the fight doesn't happen, it's because Rivera didn't try to set up something with my promoter."

I don't think Margarito is scared of Collazo at all. What I do think he's scared of is getting in the ring with a legitimate challenger, someone who would not be a major underdog, and risking his potential payday against Floyd or whatever elite fighter steps up. I mean, how long can this guy continue to fight prospects and no hopers without catching any hate in return? Did you know Rivera is a champion?

Because no one calls out someone with no belt or who is not a PPV draw. As soon as the thread began, Deeznuts ended it. Let's just also point out: Luis who? The guy who lost to John Ruiz at Welterweight? Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

That fight was 7 years ago and I don't know anyone who's seen it. Who cares what he did 7 years ago? What has he done in the last 3? Very little... Those who approve of him as an opponent will simply argue that he won. Collazo lost. Simple as that. Again I don't agree with that mentality but that is the way it will be presented.

But you are defending the fight while saying Collazo isn't worth fighting because he lost (controversially). You haven't read my posts. I said Tony could fight Tony, but Collazo has no right nor do any Floyd nutsuckers, to say that Tony is 'ducking' Collazo just because he is looking to fight someone else. Rivera is equally on Collazo's level, and when you just LOSE a fight, your rep takes a little hit. Never said it wouldn't be a good fight...not the best either though.

But you are defending the fight while saying Collazo isn't worth fighting because he lost (controversially). Look, it's not like Collazo lost his last fight by a total blowout. A lot of people thought he won the fight and if not for a flash knockdown in the first round it probably would have been a draw. His win over Rivera is better than anything Clottey has done. Can you even name Clottey's best win? So what's the problem with the fight? I agree with you that Collazo is a better opponent than Clottey. But people will look to the fact that Clottey was dominating Badlomir (WW Champ) and was DQ'd unfairly. So in theory Clottey should own a win over the division champ while Collazo's best win is against Rivera. I don't agree with it but that is the argument I think.

What exactly does Clottey do (most likely Margarito's next opponent) for Tony that Collazo doesn't? You are really going to have to pay attn. I never said Tony should fight Clottey.

What exactly does Clottey do (most likely Margarito's next opponent) for Tony that Collazo doesn't? At least we can say Collazo has graduated from prospect status and has a good win over Jose Rivera under his belt. I would give Margarito way more credit for beating Collazo. Why is this man scared to face a true contender at welterweight? Margarito scared of Collazo? Margarito has already called him out. Collazo is on top of his list of possible opponent for this december, but it looks like it will be Rivera, cause Rivera is the only one actually trying to set something up with Arum.

Amagnin, there's alot of guys here who know nothing about the actual sweet science of the sport. I was talking to a guy a few months back who was telling me that Margarito punches from 'looping angles'. He then said that when you throw an uppercut, an overhand right, and a hook you are making angles .....;) Collazo doesn't have Mayweather's "footspeed", but his footwork is top notch. He is never off balance and he throws his combinations with perfect technique and torque. He shifts his weight perfect just like Mayweather. Don't let any other fool tell you otherwise. And FYI about Hatton, he usually has a 8 week training camp, and he comes to the fight around 150-152 but for Tszyu he had 12 weeks and he came in at 148. He was noticeably smaller then usual and seemed alot more energetic that fight. Collazo throws pretty good combinations, but they are not amazing by any means. Oftentimes I noticed that when he throws combinations he squares his feet to much, leaving him open to counters.

Hatton's training camp is 2 months, not one month. Besides, I'm sure he starts dieting a little bit before he even enters training camp. When he is in the ring he goes up to about 147-149.

LOL @ the kid who said "Collazo's footwork can't compete with Mayweather's". Do you even know what footwork is? Tool. Collazo isn't very smart as most of you can tell. He's not even a big star and I guess he expects to sit on his ass and get another title shot. Even with Don King behind him he wont be able to negotiate shit because nobody knows about him. He should do what a good champion would do and get active and start FIGHTING. I would also like to see him more active, but he doesn't really have any attractive offers on the table. Do you think that Collazo has better footwork than Floyd? I think both have very good footwork but would rate Floyd's a little better. But I might be biased because I have seen more of Floyd's fights.

180 lbs, and it's fat. When Hatton is at 140 he is muscle. He is small for a 147 lbs fighter. Everyone has a different type of body. I believe Hatton is an ectomorph. Hatton doesnt gain 40 pounds of fat between fights and lose it in a month. That is impossible.