Both of these warriors seem to be on the verge of retirement.So if they were to retire today,which one do you think had the better career?Gatti or Vargas?
Arturo's key wins-Tracy Patterson,Gabriel Ruelas,Micky Ward,Joey Gamache,Leo Dorin.
Fernando's key wins-Ike Quartey,Winky Wright(questionable),Luis Campas,Raul Marquez.
Exactly. In terms of boxing skill its no comparison. They have one common opponent they both lost to...DLH. Gatti was battered for 5 rounds until the towel was thrown. Vargas actually looked like he could win that fight.
Haha yeah, that says a lot.
Against Better Opposition Vargas wins hands down.
But What Gatti did for Boxing hes miles ahead of Vargas, Gatti was able to get thousands of people watch him fight no matter who he was against. He was able to get into the hearts of others by showing cheer courage. He was able to get people into boxing by showing guts and determination where now alot of young boxers look up to him from it. So for themselves Vargas had a better career. For the general public Gatti had a better career
Yeah, thats exactly right and precisely my point. There should be no doubt about who is the more talented boxer, and the general public's opinion should not influence that of the knowledgable boxing enthusiast.
That's true, but that other criteria for what makes a better career is more superficial and seems like something the casual fan or unexperienced viewer would prefer, which doesn't make anyone a better boxer. They're just into it for the thrills, not to appreciate technique and skill; which I'm sure you're aware of and is why you also picked Vargas.
Exactly. In terms of boxing skill its no comparison. They have one common opponent they both lost to...DLH. Gatti was battered for 5 rounds until the towel was thrown. Vargas actually looked like he could win that fight.
I agree with you, but the question is a bit vague. What makes a career "beter"? In my mind its who did you fight, who did you beat, how did you look doing it. To others a career is evaluated by how long it was, how exciting it was, what they did for the sport. It all depends on how you look at it. But for my record its Vargas no doubt.
That's true, but that other criteria for what makes a better career is more superficial and seems like something the casual fan or unexperienced viewer would prefer, which doesn't make anyone a better boxer. They're just into it for the thrills, not to appreciate technique and skill; which I'm sure you're aware of and is why you also picked Vargas.
Against Better Opposition Vargas wins hands down.
But What Gatti did for Boxing hes miles ahead of Vargas, Gatti was able to get thousands of people watch him fight no matter who he was against. He was able to get into the hearts of others by showing cheer courage. He was able to get people into boxing by showing guts and determination where now alot of young boxers look up to him from it. So for themselves Vargas had a better career. For the general public Gatti had a better career
I can't believe this is even being asked. It's ALL Vargas. He gave two sure fire hall-of-famers extremely tough fights. He also beat much better opposition, and when he lost, the fighters who beat him were much better than than anyone who Gatti was ever competitive with, yet he never got nearly as fucked up as Gatti did.
I agree with you, but the question is a bit vague. What makes a career "beter"? In my mind its who did you fight, who did you beat, how did you look doing it. To others a career is evaluated by how long it was, how exciting it was, what they did for the sport. It all depends on how you look at it. But for my record its Vargas no doubt.
I can't believe this is even being asked. It's ALL Vargas. He gave two sure fire hall-of-famers extremely tough fights. He also beat much better opposition, and when he lost, the fighters who beat him were much better than than anyone who Gatti was ever competitive with, yet he never got nearly as fucked up as Gatti did.
I have to go with Gatti. If you asked who was the better fighter, I would likely swing towards Vargas, though every time either of them stepped up to elite fighters they lost.
Gatti's career was longer and filled with much more toe-to-toe action. From a fan's perspective, it was a far better career.
Vargas's career was cut short when they threw him to the lions against Tito. If they had let him build his way to the elite rather than just throwing him in too green he may have really been something. Pity that.
Damn....I am the only can't decide.......I suppose Gatti due to the action factor but Vargas had more big meaningful fights......even tho he lost most of them,so did Gatti.
just look at their records vargas has beaten way better people than gatti
Damn....I am the only can't decide.......I suppose Gatti due to the action factor but Vargas had more big meaningful fights......even tho he lost most of them,so did Gatti.
When Vargas fought the top contenders, he gave them a run for their money and sometimes beat a couple of them. When Gatti fights top contenders, he gets dominated. Vargas 1
Who made more money and gained better populatiry? both were about the same (not accounting the fact that gatti had more fights)
Who has a bigger resume in terms of opposition fought? Vargas 1
Who beat better top competition? Neither
Ring experience/more knockouts? Gatti 1
Vargas.
In terms of career quality, I've got to give it to Vargas pretty clearly. Vargas beat a prime Ike Quartey and a good Winky Wright and gave tough fights to both Trinidad and DLH near their primes. Gatti was destroyed by DLH in his prime. Gatti's best win is against Tracey Patterson who is nowhere near the fighters that Vargas beat. Gatti gets credit in my book for his heart and the longevity of his career. But if we are strictly judging on quality then I go with Vargas.