Note to all Brits:
Lennox Lewis is a product of Canadian Boxing, not British.
He learned to box in Canada, spent his amateur career boxing in Canada, and repersented Canada at the Olympics.
-- So to mention Lewis as one of the greatest British boxers is a bit misleading
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yes people, please keep this in mind!
Yeah, that's him; but between 1960 and '67 he was something special. He was only stopped on four occassions; twice by Carlos Ortiz and once by Sandy Saddler, bonafide greats. The other ko loss was early in his career. He was an all time great. Pacquiao's book is still being written.
i wouldnt even count the saddler loss cuz i read an article a while back(cant find it now) that after the fight a riot broke out and the ref was banned from boxing cuz he was crearly favoring the hometown fighter. flash was leading on all score cards and the reff was allowing saddler to get away with alot of fouls. i think that pac really doesnt compare(at this time) to elorde and Pancho Villa(considered by many to be the greatest fly weight ever)
Greatest british-Jimmy Wilde
Greatest Mexican-Sal Sanchez
Greatest American-Joe luise
If you look at my post I was going with CONTEMPORARY boxers and not older boxers whom I have only seen a few times on black and white films. Hence my exclusion of Sugar Ray Robinson from the America's greatest.
To be honest I have no idea who those guys you mentioned and when I looked up Flash Elorde his record was 88-27 :confused: is this the same one your referring to?
Yeah, that's him; but between 1960 and '67 he was something special. He was only stopped on four occassions; twice by Carlos Ortiz and once by Sandy Saddler, bonafide greats. The other ko loss was early in his career. He was an all time great. Pacquiao's book is still being written.
What about Flash Elorde and Pancho Villa :confused:
If you look at my post I was going with CONTEMPORARY boxers and not older boxers whom I have only seen a few times on black and white films. Hence my exclusion of Sugar Ray Robinson from the America's greatest.
To be honest I have no idea who those guys you mentioned and when I looked up Flash Elorde his record was 88-27 :confused: is this the same one your referring to?
Note to all Brits:
Lennox Lewis is a product of Canadian Boxing, not British.
He learned to box in Canada, spent his amateur career boxing in Canada, and repersented Canada at the Olympics.
-- So to mention Lewis as one of the greatest British boxers is a bit misleading.
Mexican - I would say JCC
British - I dont know many of the noncontemporary British Boxers but I would have to say Nigel Benn and possibly Calz if he fights a couple of more top guys and wins.
American - To many to really say but I again going to contemporary boxers I would give the nod to Sugar Ray Leonard
Now here are some Really easy ones Panama - Duran, Philipino - Pac :D
What about Flash Elorde and Pancho Villa :confused:
I am not a British boxing historian, but what is wrong with rating LL as the best British boxer of all time. He retired as undisputed HW champ of the world which I don't think has been done except for Marciano. Also, and I know this is unfair, but if you look at the best HW's of all time, I think Lennox at his prime may have beaten any of them. He was 6'6 and he had fast hands.
American: Sugar Ray Robinson
Mexican: Julio Cesar Chavez
Mexican - I would say JCC
British - I dont know many of the noncontemporary British Boxers but I would have to say Nigel Benn and possibly Calz if he fights a couple of more top guys and wins.
American - To many to really say but I again going to contemporary boxers I would give the nod to Sugar Ray Leonard
Now here are some Really easy ones Panama - Duran, Philipino - Pac :D