It's pretty much guaranteed to not happen at this point. Arum has said the 8M offer is off the table for Mayweather to fight Margarito at this point. Mayweather never said jack shit about the fight, and Margarito is planning on fighting on December 2nd on Showtime. So what does everyone think? Mayweather turned down 8 million, more than he's ever made in any fight, to NOT fight Margarito. If Mayweather doesn't fight somebody for 8 million or more, do we officially say he ducked Margarito? If he fights Baldomir for less money or Spinks for less money, did he duck Margarito? Thoughts please.
He also said he thinks Floyd is handpicking opponents, which i totally disagree with.
Hes calling out two bigger stronger guys.
He will get more money for both those fights.
Both those fighters are all time greats.
Both those fighters have far superior boxing skills then Tony.
What you say makes sense to me.
That looks like Floyd wants to fight Margirito, just not now.
Imagine if Tony fights and beats Hatton and Floyd fights and beats baldomir.
That fight would be 1000 times bigger than it is right now.
If those fights happen then yea Im all for it. I just wanna see Floyd and Margarito go at it, even thought I think Floyd would win by dec.
No that is not what I am saying either. I was saying PEOPLE feel that Zab-Floyd had better PPV numbers because general fans of hip-hop recognize the names more than other boxers. I would never say that recognition means you are worthy of big fights.
And I was actually contradicting the point that Margarito doesn't have at least equivalent appeal with non-hard core boxing fans because fans of Mexican champions will support him even if they aren't that familiar with him or they hate Floyd etc.
Zab is friends with rappers so he should get big fights.
you lost some cred. with me
buddy
No that is not what I am saying either. I was saying PEOPLE feel that Zab-Floyd had better PPV numbers because general fans of hip-hop recognize the names more than other boxers. I would never say that recognition means you are worthy of big fights.
are you really serious ?
hip hop ?
Antonio Margarito needs Ice Cube's approval to be "somebody" ?
you are a joke my friend !
That isn't what I am saying. Margarito has his own crowd of people that watch him... they just aren't hip-hop fans. Fans of Mexican fighters that aren't necessarily boxing fans will watch Tony though and Floyd and Zab definitely don't have that kind of appeal.
hip hop
incredible comment
What is it with you and hip-hop. You gave me a comment like this earlier in reference to Zab. I mean Zab appears in rap videos and people mention him in songs fairly often. I am just saying your "hip hop enthusiast" who doesn't follow boxing might still know who these guys are because they aren't just "sports figures"
My point is, Mosley and DLH said they wont fight till 2007 and Floyd has a date set for November, why not just take the fight and make 8 million since he ain't gonna fight Mosley and DeLaHoya yet.
Anyone can be cocky in interviews. Wasn't RJJ cocky in his interviews with Tarver? Then what happened when the bell rang?
He ran.
It's a little different when you're acting confident about a guy that KO'd you in your last fight. Floyd hasn't lost yet and I'm pretty sure that cockiness you see in interviews is actually how he is. Guys that are constantly told they are the best like a TO or Floyd definitely believe it. But hey he could be scared I'm not pyschic.
If you really wanted the best fights, you'd tell Mayweather to move back down to Light Welter where he's better suited to fight and take a piece of hatton or cotto at that weight.
Or make him fight a winky wright at 154 or something, make him fight a bigger guy with some skills.
as a boxing fan "Floyd's " bank account shouldnt concern you. Seeing quality fights where the best fighters take on each other should. He has no opponent yet. Everybody else said NO and he was offered the biggest payday of his career..so he is without an excuse.
ducked :D
Charlie, u such a contradiction. In the same sentence u say as a fan u shouldnt worry about Floyd's bank account and then go on and say he's been offered the biggest pay day of his career. which is it? Are u fan who wants to see competitive fights? If so, what skills do Margarito posess that Floyd hasnt seen and will give him problems? How do u know if Margarito can even be competitive, he has never fought anyone close to resembling Floyd. he hasnt fought anyone a step below Floyd's talent. How do u know he will be competitive?
1. laughable
2. your girlfriend(s) does not constitute masses
3. did he win the eliminator ? so he is champ, correct ?
4. the organization does not make the fighter
5. 6 heads
6. gayweather does not agree with you
7. he has defended against whoemever they put in front of him
8. did you watch the fights ? fights stopped on cuts, Santos was on run for his life.
9. offer more ? more than 8 mil ?
10. I agree
The masses dont know him at all. I havent even seen Margarito on Telemundo. Floyd got the hip hop culture behind him, and we pretty deep around the world. Floyd might not be on Delahoya level, but he is definitely a tier below that when it come to popularity. 6 heads is the fighter u choose to show who was proven, 6 heads is ok, not elite, not very good, a notch below mediocre in my opinion. Margarito should have been demanding to fight higher ranked guys after Cintron, but what he do, take a step back and fight Gomez. Im glad to see u agreed with #10, this might just be the most important one.
1. Zab told him NOT YET before the Baldi fight..Mosely said "i need two more fights"..Floyd ducked.
2. dumb
3. Floyd just fought Zab..he clamied he was winning a title in another weight class...because Baldi didnt pay sanctioning fee's for the IBF and was able to keep his belt.
4. Margarito atleast has a belt.
5. Currently being ducked by whom you consider #1 p4p.
6. Limited skills..haha...gets the Job done, period.
7. Defended his title against a couple of undefeated fighter's whom Ive actuaslly heard of that weren't coming off embarassing losses or KO's.
8. Santos was on his way to to getting KO'd before the cut...and he is a big JR middle south paw. You cant knock Santos.
9.I cant belive you are mentioning Spinks AND Baldi JOKE. How is that a knock on Marg?
10. Bob Arum offered Floyd the biggest payday of his entire career.
1. Get out of here with that. Mayorga was at 147, Spinks was at 147, Forrest was at 147, as well as Zab, hell he could of have even called out Ike Quartey. Face it, dude was sitting on his ass. Floyd's belt was a papertitle but so is Margarito, a paper title is a paper title, atleast Floyd was willing to defend it against top notch competition and not the low ranked WBO contenders. IBF wanted to force a low ranked contender on him, what he do, give up the belt. all those unbeaten fighters were unproven and green, Margarito was a step up for them, when is he going to step up and fight someone significant, everybody aint ducking. Spinks and Baldomier got some legacy and history to add to Floyds' already long list of his accolades. U got understand he not just trying to be the best boxer today, but the best boxer in history. He wants Ali spot. Its funny how Floyd was with Bob for all those years and his best pay day comes from BOb when he's no longer with him. That sounds like some kind of alterior motive too me.
Im not saying Floyd is terrified of Margarito but listen to his voice at the end of this.
That looks like Floyd wants to fight Margirito, just not now.
Imagine if Tony fights and beats Hatton and Floyd fights and beats baldomir.
That fight would be 1000 times bigger than it is right now.
That is definitely one theory. Another theory might be that he wants to save this fight for down the road. If 8 million is available now, then why wouldn't the same or more be available after Floyd beats Shane and DLH (not saying I think he would win but in Floyd's mind its a given). By then Margarito will at worst be as anonymous as now but more likely he is more well known. My main issue with calling Floyd scared is that I just don't think that he is capable of being scared. If you have ever watched him interviewed, he is one of the most cocky athletes I've ever seen. It would be like TO being afraid of Champ Bailey (pro-football analogy). He may be scared I just don't think that is his motivation.
My point is, Mosley and DLH said they wont fight till 2007 and Floyd has a date set for November, why not just take the fight and make 8 million since he ain't gonna fight Mosley and DeLaHoya yet.
Anyone can be cocky in interviews. Wasn't RJJ cocky in his interviews with Tarver? Then what happened when the bell rang?
He ran.
It's funny how Judah was the 16-1 favorite to win against Baldomir, but he lost. Then people act like Floyd's win over Gatti actually means something.
Floyd is scared of Margarito.
Floyd wants to fight Mosley and/or DeLaHoya, but both said they're not fighting this year. So why not "easily" beat Margarito and make 8 million dollars out of doing so? Because it's pure bullshit.
That is definitely one theory. Another theory might be that he wants to save this fight for down the road. If 8 million is available now, then why wouldn't the same or more be available after Floyd beats Shane and DLH (not saying I think he would win but in Floyd's mind its a given). By then Margarito will at worst be as anonymous as now but more likely he is more well known. My main issue with calling Floyd scared is that I just don't think that he is capable of being scared. If you have ever watched him interviewed, he is one of the most cocky athletes I've ever seen. It would be like TO being afraid of Champ Bailey (pro-football analogy). He may be scared I just don't think that is his motivation.
It's funny how Judah was the 16-1 favorite to win against Baldomir, but he lost. Then people act like Floyd's win over Gatti actually means something.
Floyd is scared of Margarito.
Floyd wants to fight Mosley and/or DeLaHoya, but both said they're not fighting this year. So why not "easily" beat Margarito and make 8 million dollars out of doing so? Because it's pure bullshit.