Early Peter vs Toney predictions.

In theory then, he should have traded punches and since he is the more powerful man he would be winning the exchanges. What happened is that Peter can't beat a fighter he can't control. Although in a different way, Peter will not be able to control Toney. He won't be eating shots like against Wlad, but he won't land a punch as cleanly either. Plus Toney's chin is rock solid.

Yes but Toney is no Robert Hawkins. He will stand and fight but it will be against the ropes on his terms. Also, while Toney never comes in "in shape" anymore, Peter has been out of shape as well. To beat Toney you have to pressure him CONSTANTLY. Toney is able to survive by being able to take breaks against the ropes and then counter punch accurately to keep his punch output low. Peter won't be able to pressure him enough. Also, Peter couldn't KO Klitschko and he has no jaw. Peter could not KO Wlad because he was to busy getting jabbed and straight right hands to the head !

Yes but Toney is no Robert Hawkins. He will stand and fight but it will be against the ropes on his terms. Also, while Toney never comes in "in shape" anymore, Peter has been out of shape as well. To beat Toney you have to pressure him CONSTANTLY. Toney is able to survive by being able to take breaks against the ropes and then counter punch accurately to keep his punch output low. Peter won't be able to pressure him enough. Also, Peter couldn't KO Klitschko and he has no jaw.

i wish you would answer this question, please humor us if sam peter cant knock out robert hawkins, how is he going to knock out james toney? Because Robert Hawkins feared for his life , Toney will stand and fight unlike Hawkins !

I agree with you that it doesn't matter what kind of shape Toney shows up at...he will lose regardless! i wish you would answer this question, please humor us if sam peter cant knock out robert hawkins, how is he going to knock out james toney?

I think size is actually a disadvantage for Peter, he's not that much taller (6'1 vs 5'10) but he's wideQUOTE] I'm not sure about that, Evander Holyfield looked huge compared to Toney, and Holyfield is 6'2, so Peter will still be the bigger man by a decent margin.

Age effects everyone Meat, everyone. I don't care who you are, what your boxing style is, you do not benefit from getting older, especially when you don't take care of yourself as in Toney's case.

I think size is actually a disadvantage for Peter, he's not that much taller (6'1 vs 5'10) but he's wide, and with the fight probably happening 80% of the time on the ropes, he's going to be one giant bullseye for toney, and we all know how accurate james is. this is going to be nothing like the wlad fight, where he used that jab to keep peter at a distance. toney is going to the phonebooth with sam and as far as I know sam hasn't shown any skills at that close distance.

May have picked Toney a few years ago but with his age and smaller size and lack of power in against heavyweights, don't see him doing too much. Peter wins by 5-7rd K.O And Toney tries to keep fighting until they refuse to license him. You are right that Toney lacks true KO power at heavyweight, but he has a great chin and great defense. It is literally impossible for Peter to win a decision w/o knocking Toney down several times because of Toney's edge in boxing skills. I see this as a UD for Toney. Also, Toney doesn't have Klitschko's glass jaw so I don't see a KO on the horizon.

Quick question here; do you guys think that Toney's age vs Peter's youth factors into the equation here? In terms of stamina and conditioning, not necessarily experience.(we all know that Toney is light years ahead of Peter in ring experience)

May have picked Toney a few years ago but with his age and smaller size and lack of power in against heavyweights, don't see him doing too much. Peter wins by 5-7rd K.O And Toney tries to keep fighting until they refuse to license him.

I would have picked Toney to win a fight like this a while back, but after Toney's performance against Rahman i'm not so sure. Peter can maybe break Toney down with an accumulation of punches to the arms and body, he needs to fight a good smart steady fight though. I'm still not a huge fan of Peter, but i feel it may be Toney's time to lose. Will be a much better fight if both of these guys come in good condition. I'm going with Peter.

Toney by UD.Boxing clinic!

....Wow, you can't get any more even than this poll is.

I agree with you that it doesn't matter what kind of shape Toney shows up at...he will lose regardless!

I like that the polls at 50/50, alot of conflicting issues, now if Toney comes in at a decent weight, he'll probably be quicker then Peters, giving him the edge. If not then IMO he could still wincause Toney is one of the hardest boxers to hit in the sport.

Gotta go with Toney. Skill/experience over power. But, if Sam Peter lands some flush shots who knows? I give Peter a punchers chance, and he seems to be a hell of a puncher.

Toney doesn't have the height and reach advantage that Wlad used to keep Peter off of him. He's one of the best counterpunchers in the heavies, but I don't know how his body will hold up against the bombs that Peter will throw at him. If he can get past rd. 6, i'd give him a chance for a close decision win. Difficult fight for Toney most definitely. :cool:

The only shot Peter has is if Toney comes into the fight fat and out of shape while he comes in in tremendous shape. Even then Sam will have to dictate a fast pace and hope for a late rounds stoppage, something easier said than done against a counter-punching defensive wizard like James. Toney by UD.

i think its peter's crudeness against toney's defense will prove to be peter's downfall. toney by UD.