All of the filipino boxers were southpaws. not that thats a bad thing, just seems like the stance is synonymous with filipino boxers. looked up flash elorde's stance and he was a southpaw too. anyone that knows more about boxing or international boxing of the past, is this just how it is? any particular reason to it like to repeat sucess of the past?
There was also by a name of JEsUs SaLuD named Hawaiian Punch.Yes, all told, there are three Filipinos who have been given that monicker: Ganigan, Salud and Villoria. All are residents (officially, at least) of Hawaii.
The name was derived from an alcohol-pineapple cocktail.
hey buddy grayfist when i was a kid andy ganigan was know as the Hawian Punch ... pre fight hype against Alexis Arguello made me convince that he can be champion ... but the legend that Alexis is and wont be denied koed ANdy...
There was also by a name of JEsUs SaLuD named Hawaiian Punch.
hey buddy grayfist when i was a kid andy ganigan was know as the Hawian Punch ... pre fight hype against Alexis Arguello made me convince that he can be champion ... but the legend that Alexis is and wont be denied koed ANdy...Yes, of course! It was Andrew Ganigan that I forgot! The original Hawaiian Punch. Now I remember a bit more: although he was stopped by Alexis Arguello in some middle round, he dropped El Flaco in the first stanza.
That fella had power! He TKO'd Vicente Saldivar in their first meeting then UD'd Saldivar in the second-- Saldivar was one of very, very few who went the distance. And if one speaks of Saldivar, one speaks of a fighter who went 11 rounds with the great Esteban de Jesus in a failed bid for a world crown.
I'm not sure what alphabet title it was, but Ganigan KOd the veteran Sean O'Grady for some world crown, before facing Arguello.
Although I think Ganigan was a southpaw, I cannot be sure. The handful of stuff I hazily remember seeing him in has me thinking he was taking out opponents with his left.
Thanks JOMS, ol' buddy!:)
Another thing that should be noticed is how the crowd behaved.
DAMN it showcased how respectful these people are. Everybody kept quiet and gave respect to the Mexican national anthem while it is being sang, and take note that Larrios was never booed at any instance of the fight.
At the end Chololo thank the whole Phil for the warm reception. :)
yup very much different with the vegas crowd. and even during the morales fight where we watched in a theatre, filipinos would be clapping for morales, and when he was interviewed he was cheered more for the courageous effort he'd given. majority of the crowd are not into boxing but they can display true sportmanship i guess.
Another thing that should be noticed is how the crowd behaved.
DAMN it showcased how respectful these people are. Everybody kept quiet and gave respect to the Mexican national anthem while it is being sang, and take note that Larrios was never booed at any instance of the fight.
At the end Chololo thank the whole Phil for the warm reception. :)
I didnt see the fight but if that actually happened, thats great respect...
hey buddy grayfist when i was a kid andy ganigan was know as the Hawian Punch ... pre fight hype against Alexis Arguello made me convince that he can be champion ... but the legend that Alexis is and wont be denied koed ANdy...
hahahahaha!!!! That thai judge hands are trembling like he jacked off all night. Thanks buddy and nice seeing you too! That's what we've been saying while the fight was going on. Zero crime rate and no battle going on because thiefs, criminals and rebels are also glued on TV. No peeps on the street and a collective ooohs and aahhs when pac is delivering and receiving punches. Larios gave a good account of himself with this fight. Many experts are saying that he has a glass chin. How he proved them wrong. What a heart and conditioning. Props to larios! I think he can KO morales and marco one after the other at the same night! LOL! :DMendoza, Chololo's manager, has insisted and continues to insist that Larios is a lot better than Morales. Not too many listened, including me. And, I'm not quite listening very closely still.;)
Catchya soon buddy!
Chololo got a standing ovation too at the end of the fight, right? Wow!
Boxing may resurrect the Acapulco-Manila Galleon Trade! LOL!!!
And the Thai... Wakee Salud must have brought him out to some place last night...;) LOL!
Mexico and the Philippines has so much in common, among them, centuries spent in the monastery (Spanish Catholicsm) and 50 years of Holywood! LOL!
Good to see ya pal! My best to all the Pinoys and your family! I'm sure the crime books all throughout the archipelago tomorrow will show, "zero criminal incidents while the fights were on!" LOL!!!!
hahahahaha!!!! That thai judge hands are trembling like he jacked off all night. Thanks buddy and nice seeing you too! That's what we've been saying while the fight was going on. Zero crime rate and no battle going on because thiefs, criminals and rebels are also glued on TV. No peeps on the street and a collective ooohs and aahhs when pac is delivering and receiving punches. Larios gave a good account of himself with this fight. Many experts are saying that he has a glass chin. How he proved them wrong. What a heart and conditioning. Props to larios! I think he can KO morales and marco one after the other at the same night! LOL! :D
Everything you said is right buddy. That puch that surprised oscar and we went guffaw because even if it looked clumsy it looked effective. Man, that larios guy earned the respect of every pinoy boxing fan and when he said " salamat todas filipinas" the crowd cheered like we have not lost some of our spanish.And yes pacman came back late in that third round but I think larios won the round but the thai judge scored the bout 120-106. What a nuthugger! :DChololo got a standing ovation too at the end of the fight, right? Wow!
Boxing may resurrect the Acapulco-Manila Galleon Trade! LOL!!!
And the Thai... Wakee Salud must have brought him out to some place last night...;) LOL!
Mexico and the Philippines has so much in common, among them, centuries spent in the monastery (Spanish Catholicsm) and 50 years of Holywood! LOL!
Good to see ya pal! My best to all the Pinoys and your family! I'm sure the crime books all throughout the archipelago tomorrow will show, "zero criminal incidents while the fights were on!" LOL!!!!
San Mig and the third round: a combination that could make one pee in one's pants if one's a Pac fan buddy! :D
Pacquiao was hurt but he got Chololo too, late in the same round, didn't he?
The fight was a highlight reel, pal. Did you see that punch that Pacquiao threw while croaching? Boxing's equivalent of a hook shot in basketball? Fancy, that! It hit Larios' face too, didn't it?! And there were those lateral movements to the right--evading Chololo's left jab-- simultaneous to delivering a left straight!
I have been told that Chololo has captured the hearts of Filipinos all throughout the islands. A friend told me, if Larios wants to fight in the Philippines against a non-Filipino for a world title, some Filipino companies might foot the bill!
The prospects are not all that remote for a Larios fight against a non-Filipino in Manila, is it now? He knows some Tagalog! Said something like, "Salamat sa lahat nang Pilipinas!":D
Everything you said is right buddy. That puch that surprised oscar and we went guffaw because even if it looked clumsy it looked effective. Man, that larios guy earned the respect of every pinoy boxing fan and when he said " salamat todas filipinas" the crowd cheered like we have not lost some of our spanish.And yes pacman came back late in that third round but I think larios won the round but the thai judge scored the bout 120-106. What a nuthugger! :D
I also heard of that original hawaiian punch but forgot his name. I think I heard it when they featured brian on TV here in pinas.
Been drinking san miguel while watching the fight on a delayed telecast. I already knew the result but I still got scared when larios delivered that left hook to follow up his four overhand rights early in the third found. I thought I saw manny's eyes became glassy and his knees buckled. It was a good test on pac's toughnessSan Mig and the third round: a combination that could make one pee in one's pants if one's a Pac fan buddy! :D
Pacquiao was hurt but he got Chololo too, late in the same round, didn't he?
The fight was a highlight reel, pal. Did you see that punch that Pacquiao threw while croaching? Boxing's equivalent of a hook shot in basketball? Fancy, that! It hit Larios' face too, didn't it?! And there were those lateral movements to the right--evading Chololo's left jab-- simultaneous to delivering a left straight!
I have been told that Chololo has captured the hearts of Filipinos all throughout the islands. A friend told me, if Larios wants to fight in the Philippines against a non-Filipino for a world title, some Filipino companies might foot the bill!
The prospects are not all that remote for a Larios fight against a non-Filipino in Manila, is it now? He knows some Tagalog! Said something like, "Salamat sa lahat nang Pilipinas!":D
Thanks pal! I'm sure I forgot a number of champs... the original Hawaiian Punch, in particular (Salud was the second, then came Villoria). I just can't recall his name and I can't remember either whether he was a southpaw or orthodox. My memory of a handful of his fights makes me lean towards his having been a lefty, but I could be dreadfully wrong. (I can't even remember his name, for Chrisakes!:o )
Hey pal, you guys must be awash with San Miguels and Tanduays by now, eh?
Congratulations Pinoys!:D
I also heard of that original hawaiian punch but forgot his name. I think I heard it when they featured brian on TV here in pinas.
Been drinking san miguel while watching the fight on a delayed telecast. I already knew the result but I still got scared when larios delivered that left hook to follow up his four overhand rights early in the third found. I thought I saw manny's eyes became glassy and his knees buckled. It was a good test on pac's toughness
Nice post as usual buddy. :)Thanks pal! I'm sure I forgot a number of champs... the original Hawaiian Punch, in particular (Salud was the second, then came Villoria). I just can't recall his name and I can't remember either whether he was a southpaw or orthodox. My memory of a handful of his fights makes me lean towards his having been a lefty, but I could be dreadfully wrong. (I can't even remember his name, for Chrisakes!:o )
Hey pal, you guys must be awash with San Miguels and Tanduays by now, eh?
Congratulations Pinoys!:D
Some Filipino World champions and their respective fighting stances:
Southpaw:
Manny Pacquiao
Flash Elorde
Rolando Navarette
Ben Villaflor
Frank Cedeno
Rolando Bohol
Rolando Pascua
Gerry Penalosa
Doddie Boy Penalosa
Bernabe Villacampo
Rene Barrientos
Morris East
Bobby Berna
Eric Chavez
Orthodox Filipino champions:
Pancho Villa
Ceferino Garcia
Brian Villoria
Pedro Adigue
Roberto Cruz
Little Dado
Luisito Espinosa (reportedly converted from southpaw)
Jesus Salud
Erbito Salavaria
Joma Gamboa
Not certain (can't recall or don't know):
Speedy Dado
Manny Melchor
Tacy Macalos
Nice post as usual buddy. :)
Some Filipino World champions and their respective fighting stances:
Southpaw:
Manny Pacquiao
Flash Elorde
Rolando Navarette
Ben Villaflor
Frank Cedeno
Rolando Bohol
Rolando Pascua
Gerry Penalosa
Doddie Boy Penalosa
Bernabe Villacampo
Rene Barrientos
Morris East
Bobby Berna
Eric Chavez
Orthodox Filipino champions:
Pancho Villa
Ceferino Garcia
Brian Villoria
Pedro Adigue
Roberto Cruz
Little Dado
Luisito Espinosa (reportedly converted from southpaw)
Jesus Salud
Erbito Salavaria
Joma Gamboa
Not certain (can't recall or don't know):
Speedy Dado
Manny Melchor
Tacy Macalos
Another thing that should be noticed is how the crowd behaved.
DAMN it showcased how respectful these people are. Everybody kept quiet and gave respect to the Mexican national anthem while it is being sang, and take note that Larrios was never booed at any instance of the fight.
At the end Chololo thank the whole Phil for the warm reception. :)
yeah it was the crem de mexicos crop of boxers that inspired a whole bunch of em, including pac. oscar reminded me of rocky in rockyIV when rocky went to the ussr, eventually earning respect of a whole other nation. oscar also reminded me of rocky in rocky I when he went the distance when everyone was expecting a quick brutal ko. thats the last rocky reference i swear! i said it before, the mere fact that he lasted 12 rounds with the destroyer (even though he lost) should be proof to his skill and maybe even should be a semi-highlight and in some eyes (including my own) a highlight fight for him.
Dont know,maybe they dont convert southpaws? Its the reason Larios trained in Japan,and why he found plenty of southpaw sparring partners.
would you go as far as to say that even if they could convert that they choose not to over there? sorta ocd too so if im asking too much and its getting annoying tell me so i can stop lol.