How Did You Score the Cotto Fight

DLT19y ago

Ive read a million threads and post on this fight and I still cant get a hold on it. One guy will say that Paulie looked great and backed everything up and he was unimpressed with Cotto. Then the next guy will say that Cotto killed him and Paulie is garbage with a big mouth and then you here everything in between. I still dont know the deal. How long was the fight in jeopardy? Was the fight still in jeopardy going into the 11th because if it was then people need to give Paulie more respect. Ive heard some say, "Why, wasnt he supposed to beat Cotto, he talked alot of trash and couldnt back it up". The bottom line is some people thought he could pull off the upset because of his style and so on but he was definatly not a guy like Mayweather, Hatton, Castillo, or Margarito who you definatly knew what they brought to the table and you could make a fair guaranteed assesment about it, so I say that if Paulie did do well and still have the fight in doubt late then he did backup his talk and was game. I just still cant get a grip on this fight. One guy will say that Cotto dominated him and the next will say that Cotto looked so overrated and struggled with Paulie. I also got this from another board and want to know how you scored it. Paulie probally didnt win or get a draw but if he had the fight very competitive going into the championship rounds which is the 11th or 12th then I would say he did a good job because most of the people who picked Cotto said he would wipe Paulie out and that he is not on Cotto's level, so I dont see how you guys can diss him after he gave Cotto a good fight? Mouth or not, its still not the same when it comes from a kind of unknown guy. If Tarver, Floyd, Toney, etc talk shit and then loses then it means something but if Paulie talks then that doesnt really carry the same weight because he hasnt beaten any legitimate fighters, so I dont know why you guys would hold that against him or diss his performance because of that. If Sosa talked shit about Cotto and then got KO then no one would care and Sosa has done more the Paulie so whats the big deal? It sounds to me like Paulie talked shit withouht beating anyone but club fighters and still took a big monster like Cotto 12 rounds, confused him some, and made it very competitive until late. That sounds good to me. http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/thread?forumID=767&threadID=3809344&lastPostID=24410937

Comments (20)

restless_438

after watching it the first time, i had it like iwatchboxing and like the two judges as well, 116-111 Rd 01 - 10-9 Cotto Rd 02 - 10-8 Cotto Rd 03 - 10-9 Cotto Rd 04 - 10-9 Cotto Rd 05 - 10-9 Malgnaggi Rd 06 - 10-9 Malgnaggi Rd 07 - 10-9 Cotto Rd 08 - 10-9 Malgnaggi Rd 09 - 10-9 Malgnaggi Rd 10 - 10-9 Cotto Rd 11 - 10-9 Cotto Rd 12 - 10-9 Cotto Malgnaggi's a tough guy though.. credit to him a few thoughts on the Top Rank commentators.... Great to hear Foreman. My one problem, after the 5th round, one commentator said (referring to Malgnaggi), "I've got him leading in the fight based on the fact that he's overall been busier and he's not stopped throwing punches since the fight began!"... are you kidding me? lol

19y ago

neils7147933

I scored it 114-113 Cotto and had Paulie ahead after 10 rounds by one point...

19y ago

mic573

I scored it 116-111 like two of the judges.

19y ago

machotime

what was impressive was how PAulie went at COTTO even though hes not the puncher. Paulie showed guts and win or lose he showed that he belonged as one of the best 140 pounders. He had to come at Cotto, because he could not outbox Cotto, like he said he was going to easily do. Cotto showed that he CAN box. But yes Paulie is talented and he is a smart fighter.

19y ago

PRboxingfan

Cotto was not worried about Paulie's power and that's why he was getting hit more as the fight went on. Think about it, if you know this kid can't hurt you then you are more apt to just come in clean rather than behind the jab. Cotto knew Paulie could not hurt him and that's why he was fighting the way he was after the 6th or 7th round. BTW, that punch in the 9th was Cotto overswinging his left and missing Paulie that caused him to lose his balance and step back. Watch it again and you will see that Paulie hits Cotto with the jab and then Cotto tries to counter with a left hook but Paulie moved away and Cotto had overcommited himself to that punch.

19y ago

machotime

Malignaggi did fantastic under the circumstances. It was his first big fight, he got cut very badly 10 seconds in, knocked down and his jaw broken in the next round and still finished on his feet. He even had Cotto rocked once in the 9th round. Malignaggi is for real, and he put up an excellent fight. His jaw and nose were broken in this fight. Both fighters brought their A games. I gave Malignaggi 4 rounds. He was never in a good position to win the fight with the knockdown and the cut, but he sure fought like he was. Sorry but Cotto was not rocked in the 9th, Paulie punched Cotto as Cotto was stepping back, and caught him off balance...big difference. I agree that Paulie performed well considering the circumstances. He had a cut, a broken right orbital bone, and a broken nose.... Cotto also performed well considering that he hurt his hand in the 6th or 7th round. Cotto also had to deal with the fact that Paulie held Cotto's left arm throughout the entire fight. IN the later rounds Cotto held his left hand low, showing that it was hurt, and could not use his signature left hook the way he usually does.

19y ago

DLT

Well close rounds to me where rounds 10 and round 8, even if you were to switch them around or give both to Paulie Cotto will still be leading 7 rounds to 5 plus a knockdown. Paulie fought great, but Foreman said it best, that Cotto makes fights, outta fights, that shouldnt be fights. I didnt mean it as to say, give Paulie those rounds. I was just trying to find out how competitive the fight was. Some fights, a guy can win nearly every round but it can still be a competitive fight if alot of the rounds were close

19y ago

DiegoFuego

As the fight went on Paulie was hitting Cotto almost at will with combinations, but he is feather fisted and couldn't make Cotto respect his power

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DiegoFuego

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PRboxingfan

You are wrong. He lost a TD to Santos by split dec. Scores were, 84-87, 86-85, 85-86. This is the wrong thread for this but I just wanted to clear that up. Nope, you are wrong: http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=011677 The first fight, at 147, was a no contest because of a cut on Margarito. The second fight, at 154, was a win for Santos. I said the first fight was a draw but it was a NC, that was my mistake, but he was still doing very well against Santos in the second fight and many sportswriters had him ahead at the time of stoppage and claimed a home-ring victory for Santos since the fight was in PR. I had Santos ahead 86-85 at stoppage but it was close and some rounds could've gone either way.

19y ago

DLT

R1 Cotto R2 Cotto R3 Cotto R4 Cotto (good jabs by Cotto, didnt hit him yet that his jab was working great ) R5 Paulie R6 Paulie R7 Cotto R8 Paulie R9 Paulie R10 Cotto R11 Cotto R12 Cotto Sounds decent. Tell me did Paulie fight well in any of the rounds he lost or were they just completely one sided, and tell me your overall thoughts on the fight

19y ago

DLT

Yes, at the end of the fight, when Evangelista was taking Cotto's left glove off, he actually shouted in pain not once, but twice. I believe he really did hurt his hand and if you watch the press conf. you will see him hold his left hand in weird positions and he never fully rests it on the podium or makes a fist like he does with his right. If he's acting then he deserves an oscar, lol. I know but that happeneds alot also. Floyd did the same thing after the Hernandez fight when they took his glove off. The only way to truly know is how quickly he has his next fight

19y ago

mikefromstu

Margarito didnt lose to Santos at 147, a cut caused a draw. He lost at 154 and was giving him a good fight. Remember that Santos is a slick southpaw, too, with power in both his hands. I think Margarito performed very well against Santos. . You are wrong. He lost a TD to Santos by split dec. Scores were, 84-87, 86-85, 85-86. This is the wrong thread for this but I just wanted to clear that up.

19y ago

PRboxingfan

19y ago

beezy_14

DLT, I just got it in the D-Load thread this morning because I ordered the Hopkins fight last night. Like you hearing conflicting report's I was curious to see for myself.

19y ago

DLT

(Just watched the d-load)I agree that Cotto clearly won but it wasn't as one sided as many had suggested IMO. I think that PM doesn't have anything to be ashamed of he's not the first fighter to PROMOTE a fight and not do EXACTLY as he predicted. I was impressed because he took some punishment and did some good thing's,if he had a couple more fight's of that caliber prior then who know's what PM would be capable of. Where did you watch it at? Do you have a link?

19y ago

DLT

I'd say Malignaggi was better than expected, and Cotto was unimpressive, reminded me a little of Calzaghe-Lacy but Malignaggi's lack of power lost him the fight. If Malignaggi was no powderpuff Cotto would likely have been KO'ed inside 6. Malignaggi gave as good as he got, maybe even better but the champ got the benefit of the doubt. See, this is what I mean. Some guys just have totally different accounts of the fight but maybe it just seems weird to me because I didnt watch it because really, alot of people have big differences of accounts in every fight after its over. I guess Ill take it all in and then watch it for myself next week when I get the tape and judge it

19y ago

beezy_14

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C1085305co

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DLT

There is no doubt that Paulie showed well and came to fight, read my Paulie,gained respect or not thread but what I said still holds true. Paulie won about 4 of the middle rounds. But even in rounds he lost he attempted to fight back and sit on a few punches. If someone says Paulie wasn't competitive then they are just blinded by there love of Cotto. If someone says that the fight was really close and Cotto barely won, its because they are blinded by there hate of Cotto. I can dig that

19y ago