Any cats here sparred with any good pros ?? (Iceman, Rockin, Juy ?)

jus that guy dimetry salita and 1 of kevin rooney's guys that only has 1 defeat

In your profile it states that your birthday is Nov 1990! So everything considered, you've experienced quite a lot for a 15 year old ! ;) To say you sparred these guys and had the beating of Catley and Brown cos they were limited, in 1994 when you were 4 year old :confused: . By now you must be a real world beater :cool: :boxing:

I've sparred very good fighters such as Neville Brown, Ryan Rhodes, Glenn Catley and Dean Francis. I had the beating of Brown and Catley, who were both limited. But Rhodes and Francis were far better talents, I could hardly lay a glove on Ryan Rhodes and after doing a few rounds with him I said that he must be an even better prospect than Naz Hamed. Dean is a personal friend of mine, Dean would of beaten Calzaghe in the late 90's (if it wasn't for the shoulder injury). I sparred with Rhodes at Neville Brown's gym in Burton in 1994. And I sparred with Catley and Francis at the Empire in Bristol. In your profile it states that your birthday is Nov 1990! So everything considered, you've experienced quite a lot for a 15 year old ;) ! To say you sparred these guys and had the beating of Catley and Brown cos they were limited, in 1994 when you were 4 year old :confused: . By now you must be a real world beater :eek: :boxing:

Jose is DEFINITELY better at 154, that was clear. He really REALLY struggled to make 147.

Yeah i saw the Rivera fight. Had a real good seat LOL. Cleveland Nelson, I beat him by decision in Toronto in 2001. He was a tough kid, but i was VERY sharp that night. RockN, Email me.. I Want to send you something in email ICE yo ice Rivera looked real good at 154.Do you think he will be better at that weight?looked stronger to me or was it that Terra isnt as good as I thought.

It's difficult to see any outcome other than Jones playing with Collins and winning every round, Collins completely changed his boxing style for Eubank onwards (from a cagey counter-puncher who held his hands up into an all-out attacker who relied on his chin) and that change in style suited Jones to a tee. Collins only beat Eubank because Eubank had no stamina, and only beat Benn because he broke Benn's heart (took Benn's shots which made Benn quit twice, but Benn was absolutely shot to pieces anyway). I'm 99.9% sure that Collins would of attacked Jones non-stop, like he did through his super-middle title reign, and I can see Jones countering him to pieces and possibly giving him brain damage. He'd of given Jones a good workout, though. Dude thats the nicest thing u ever said bout RJJ lol

Eubank certainly wasn't shot, how was he 'shot'?? The first fight, it was pure mind games (he wasn't in the right frame of mind). The second fight, he'd completely over-trained. Ok i take that back - the last thing I wanna do is get into any kind of Eubank related argument with you, Juy lol :D

That funny.... possibly giving him brain damage... as long as he gave him a good workout though, that the main thing. LOL

Steve Collins always talks shit. He was a good fighter but not a great one. He thinks beating a shot Eubank and a shot Benn makes him the best out of the three of them. The Benn that beat Mclellan would have torn Collins to pieces. And Jones? Jones would have stopped Collins in about 7 in my opinion

You fought Cleveland Nelson? I defeated Nelson in my last pro fight. Tarick told me he split two fights with Nelson in the amateurs. As far as my sparring... man, I have started a list and I am at over 500 names so far... the best were, for starters off the top of my head, Roy Jones, Toney, Pazienza, Maske, Mike McCallum, Lindell Holmes, Marlon Starling, Steve Collins, Robbie Sims, Julian Solis, Allan Green, Chad Dawson, Tarick Salmaci, Peter Manfredo, Jose Antonio Rivera, Ahmed Kaddour, Jesse Brinkley, Scott Pemberton, Torsten Maye, Otis Grant, Eric Lucas, Donny LaLonde, Sven Ottke, Charles Brewer, Ray Olivera, Lawrence Clay-Bey etc etc etc... many more ICE In your opinion - would Collins have had a shot with Roy Jones?

BOBBY HARRIS DIDNT TURN PRO UNTIL 1992... Tyson went pro in 1984... they never fought each other, believe me. Bobby was a kid when Mike went pro. I sparred with Ray several times including 2 summers ago when we did ten rounds one day at my gym.... I am a lot bigger of course so I threw a lot of punches like he likes to do and it was fun, like being in a Ray Olivera-Zack Padilla fight LOL

Rocco..Bobby never fought Tyson. he fought Shannon Briggs four times and won twice.. Tyson was pro when Bobby was still a young kid where did you get that info? I'm sure your right Bobby was fucked up, didnt know shit anymore when I was talking and sparring with him. He said he lost to Tyson in the Olympic Trials with a big wadd of drool coming off side of his lower lip. I just took his word for it and wondered why a 127lb person was sparring with a 200lb person. Simple answer though to that was noone else wanted to spar him. I got rocked every shot I took but I still stood there and threw back even though I had to almost leap to hit him it was funny but I learned to keep my hands up and always train throwing high punches.

Rocco..Bobby never fought Tyson. he fought Shannon Briggs four times and won twice.. Tyson was pro when Bobby was still a young kid

What did you get thrown in prison for Juy?

Any of u guys sparred with any decent pro boxers ? & if so, who ? Also, who was the best u sparred ? I sparred with Bobby Harris back in the day. He fought Mike Tyson in the olympic rounds back in amateur since then he never really made it big 20-2-1 his trainers used this kid and put him in with fighters he shouldnt have been in with but he did well. He had some great skill when he started and he was big, only problem is now he's a dumb as a post and drools like crazy from being punch drunk, it's truly sad because he was cool and smart before his management took advantage of him.

Yeah i saw the Rivera fight. Had a real good seat LOL. Cleveland Nelson, I beat him by decision in Toronto in 2001. He was a tough kid, but i was VERY sharp that night. RockN, Email me.. I Want to send you something in email ICE

He turned pro with Frank Warren, but jumped shit in the late 90's. Yes, I was a pro. PM me your name please, if you dont want others to know. Im surprised Frank Warren took him down that path btw, usually he is a cautious/clever promotor.

It's a shame that Rhodes was rushed in to a world title fight so early, and against a full middleweight where Rhodes was more of a blown-up light-middleweight (at the 94 ABA's for example he weighed 156-158 while fighting in the 165lb division, he was almost dead at the weight at 132 against Witter a couple of years earlier but very much 'blown-up' against Woods). He was the youngest British champion since the war (in any division), but should of went the Commonwealth and/or European route first before challenging for the world title. I agree, who has he been promoted by? I understand its Frank Warren now, but was it ever someone else? Btw, were you pro? :confused:

It was at Neville Brown's gym in Burton in 1994. Rhodes had some pedigree, beating a couple of very decent amateurs in Junior Witter and Clinton Woods (Witter in final of 1992 Yorkshire ABA's in 132lb div, Woods in final of 1994 Yorkshire ABA's in 165lb div) in recent years and I knew that he'd have the 'Herol Bomber Graham' fighting template with him coming from the Wincobank gym and so I was prepared for a useful fighter. But when I got in the ring with this cocky, blonde-haired kid, he was out of this world. He didn't bother to wear headgear because he said he didn't need it, he didn't. I could barely lay a glove on him. And his punches were more hurtful than any I've ever come across, probably because he tended to push with his punches a lot onto my headgear, but he was a very hard hitter too and his punches came from alsorts of angles that were so difficult to anticipate. He didn't really speak with me much, he just used me as a punching bag :) I went about four or five rounds with him before I called it to a halt. Interesting, the fighters from that era and area of England all had the same style of cockyness and awkwardness. As a friend of Naz I know where he got his shit from, and I would love to sparr someone as awkward as him. Recently I have sparred a little kid who is ranked #6 in the amateurs in his weight in this country, and he is the most slippery fighter you will ever come up against. He see's everything and counters everything. At 11 or 12 he can make it all the way if he puts his mind to it I believe. Anyway thanks for sharing that with us. :boxing:

kelvin davis,joey gilbert,jesse brinkley all northen nevada boxers that ive sparred and a dude named ryan simpson i guess hes pro,kelvins actually got a fight next month..... www.koncreteboxing.com thats the gym im out of