Recent study on bias in boxing

WOW! what courage we have! Dude! Let's not get out of hand here! Don’t let the dim thoughts of one or two less fortunate individuals get the best of you. It is obvious that these guys don’t have anything better to do than to start talking trash about themselves. Let’s talk boxing, not about, I can’t even spell the word Ebonics.

and i can provide a constellation of scholarly research that suggests just the opposite Go for it shooter, Hispanics are genetically smaller than black or white men and that has always been a factor in how manly one is perceived. Thats why they tend to fight at smaller weight classes where the average man couldn't make weight if they tried. Not being an ass but its the truth. The tough guys are steriotyped as traveling in larger groups aswell, but thats an example of a bad steriotype because all wanabe gangstas do that. Just the public holds it against the hispanics more often.

I posted the whole race thing to show you the general public does not perceive hispanics as macho as a whole so why would they in boxing? and i can provide a constellation of scholarly research that suggests just the opposite

but thanks for attempting to undermine my research!! especially since i included boxing- which has nto been done much at all in sociological research there are weakness to my research as in any- clearly they are pointed out in my discussion section some must be reworked before publication such as: intercoder reliability: tinme and funding constraints did not allow me to have other coders sampl my sample and code the data to establish consistency among the results this was a qualitative analysis and not meant to provide generalizations just richness in data and as a theoretical groundwork for further studies ....I like the size survey in this one better. It says us white guys have the biggest cocks. :D I notice that Asians seem to definitely be on the bottom of all the penis length studies. :eek:

and that socially held stereotype of machismo was used more often by both black and white announcers to describe the success of hispanics machismo is only stereotyped towards hispanics man- i'm not saying that they are the only ones who exhibit these characteristics in fact, socioeconomic status is a better indicator of machismo than race or ethnicity once again these stereotypes such as black physical superiortiy and hispanic machismo are reflected in the announcers commentary and can have implications for society when media conveys these images they affect both in and out groups as well as intergroup relations remeber it is the stereotype that hispanics are the displayers of machismo and this perception is reinforced by the media how do i know that? reserach man research I posted the whole race thing to show you the general public does not perceive hispanics as macho as a whole so why would they in boxing?

6 fights ain't a study, it's an observation. Announcers have a schtick they go through to cater to their audience. At anyrate, announcers don't affect the outcome of fights, only the perception of the viewing public, and many if not most of the viewing public seem to have little respect for announcers from what I've heard. Facts are there aren't that many skilled blacks fighting anymore, and there are plenty of Latino fighters who prefer to box instead of brawl or slug. That's why Latinos dominate the divisions south of middleweight. If all they could do was brawl or slug they wouldn't hold these titles. 9 fights no 9 fights is not conducive to providing generalizations and that was not the intention as this was qualitative analysis -as opposed to quantitative research there is no need for statistical analysis - such as t-test or chi square as qualitatve results provide in depth richness to a topic this was simply a groundwork to advance research on hispanics in sport and that this was done for a hsi - hispanic serving institution in Texas the highlighted portion is exactly true- and is covered within the contexts of the lit review as possible social implications for this bias commentary also on an earlier comments directed towards biological differences in race/ethnicites is covered extensively as weel as these sometimes unscientific results regardless if they are true or not have facillitated the production of these stereotypes such as the black brute they are then reproduced in sports broadcast commentary and are delivered to the viewers

it very hard to determine race because each indiviaul is different than another. For example you got Floyd Mayweather Jr and Jeff Lacy both are black but one is fast and the other one is powerful so you cant say. I think is something with type of training that effects most if a person is trained to in only strength then he would be stronger and if speed he would be quicker. but he he trains both he will get both quality but not as much as if he is dietacted to only one type of training.

6 fights ain't a study, it's an observation. Announcers have a schtick they go through to cater to their audience. At anyrate, announcers don't affect the outcome of fights, only the perception of the viewing public, and many if not most of the viewing public seem to have little respect for announcers from what I've heard. Facts are there aren't that many skilled blacks fighting anymore, and there are plenty of Latino fighters who prefer to box instead of brawl or slug. That's why Latinos dominate the divisions south of middleweight. If all they could do was brawl or slug they wouldn't hold these titles.

fourth- most of this crap has been disproven or written in books by those who do not agree with the vast majority of scholars I like that one the best.

and that socially held stereotype of machismo was used more often by both black and white announcers to describe the success of hispanics machismo is only stereotyped towards hispanics man- i'm not saying that they are the only ones who exhibit these characteristics in fact, socioeconomic status is a better indicator of machismo than race or ethnicity once again these stereotypes such as black physical superiortiy and hispanic machismo are reflected in the announcers commentary and can have implications for society when media conveys these images they affect both in and out groups as well as intergroup relations remeber it is the stereotype that hispanics are the displayers of machismo and this perception is reinforced by the media how do i know that? reserach man research

You are the one missing the facts as I said Machoism is required for all boxers, its impossible for them not to have the same machoism. And my stats were provided to show you if any ethnic group was described as machosim it wouldn't be hispanics by the general public. I never said hispanic is a race, and your wrong saying its a ethnicity as hispanic is only defined as a group of people that speak the language from the Latin subunit of languages. Thank you. i said that too hous- but machismo is a socially constructed stereotype still held by the dominat culture with reference to hispanics your not completely wrong on the ethnicity part man- i'm a sociologist in the making friend however, ethnicity refers to shared cultural characteristics hispanic- is a term we use in the us for buerocratic purposes and statistical measurement edit again hous most of your referenes are views that are not held by the majority of scholars in this area

You are the one missing the facts as I said Machoism is required for all boxers, its impossible for them not to have the same machoism. And my stats were provided to show you if any ethnic group was described as machosim it wouldn't be hispanics by the general public. I never said hispanic is a race, and your wrong saying its a ethnicity as hispanic is only defined as a group of people that speak the language from the Latin subunit of languages. Thank you.

It doesnt matter if its not from a University page, it gets their data from research as well as from sceintific magazine / newspapers. Before you try to look like a smartass look at the references sited on the pages. races)#Reaction time 55. ^ Gravlee et al. 2003a, Gravlee et al. 2003b; Jantz and Jantz 2000, Jantz 2001 56. ^ Roth et al. 2001 57. ^ Gottfredson 2005b; Snyderman and Rothman 1987; Neisser et al. 1996; Gottfredson 1997a 58. ^ See for example Gottfredson 1997a 59. ^ Murry and Herrnstein argue that it would not be good to learn that the gap were predominantly environmental nor bad to learn that the gap were predominantly genetic. Instead, they argue that that what matters is how hard the gap is to change. They argue that the history of attempts to reduce the gap through environmental intervention have produced no definitive, lasting results. As such, even if the gap were entirely environmental, we would be no closer to changing it. They also argue that knowing whether the gap is genetic or environmental should not affect how individuals treat one another. First, because individuals should be treated as individuals rather than as groups. Second, because the reality of the gap is independent of the cause of the gap (that is, it would make no difference to learn that the gap were "only" caused by the environment. 60. ^ Boykin 1994 61. ^ Ogbu 1978; Ogbu 2003. See Jensen 1998b, pp. 511-512 for a critique of these arguments. 62. ^ Steele and Aronson 1995 found that making race salient when taking a test of cognitive ability negatively affected high-ability African American students. They name this phenomenon stereotype threat. Sackett et al. 2004 point out that these findings are widely misinterpreted to mean that eliminating stereotype threat eliminated the Black-White performance gap. See also Cohen and Sherman 2005, Helms 2005, Wicherts 2005 and Sackett et al. 2005 for discussion of the implications of stereotype threat for race and intelligence research. 63. ^ Aristotle: "Having spoken of the number of the citizens, we will proceed to speak of what should be their character. This is a subject which can be easily understood by any one who casts his eye on the more celebrated states of Hellas, and generally on the distribution of races in the habitable world. Those who live in a cold climate and in Europe are full of spirit, but wanting in intelligence and skill; and therefore they retain comparative freedom, but have no political organization, and are incapable of ruling over others. Whereas the natives of Asia are intelligent and inventive, but they are wanting in spirit, and therefore they are always in a state of subjection and slavery. But the Hellenic race, which is situated between them, is likewise intermediate in character, being high-spirited and also intelligent. Hence it continues free, and is the best-governed of any nation, and, if it could be formed into one state, would be able to rule the world. ” (Aristotle, Politics, ch. 7). Cicero: “Do not obtain your slaves from Britain because they are so stupid and so utterly incapable of being taught that they are not fit to form a part of the household of Athens.” Attributed to Cicero's Epistulae ad Atticum (Letters to Atticus), 68 BC-43 BC (latin text). Translation: Cicero 1918. "Races north of the Pyrenees are of cold temperament and never reach maturity; they are of great stature and of a white colour. But they lack all sharpness of wit and penetration of intellect." Attributed to "Said of Toledo (a Moorish savant)" by Benedict 1999 (p.34), originally quoted in Hogben 1931. 64. ^ See Race and intelligence (Culture-only or partially-genetic explanation)#Nongenetic biological factors 65. ^ Colom et al. 2005 66. ^ (Wicherts et al. 2004) 67. ^ Shuey 1966 68. ^ Jenkins 1936 69. ^ Eyferth 1961 70. ^ Scarr et al. 1977, Loehlin et al. 1973 71. ^ Willerman et al. 1974 72. ^ Nisbett 2005 73. ^ Rushton and Jensen 2005b argue that these studies are "peculiarly old, the mean year of publication being 1960" and "actually very weak and nondecisive, not having been replicated even once". Jensen 1998b, for example, points out that while the study of children born in post-WWII Germany finds no difference between white and interracial children, it does find a large difference in IQ between boys and girls, suggesting that sampling artifacts have affected the results. 74. ^ Rushton and Jensen 2005a 75. ^ For example, see Rushton and Jensen 2003 76. ^ Rushton 1989a 77. ^ Plomin et al. 2001 78. ^ Rushton and Jensen 2005a, cited in "Black-White-East Asian IQ differences at least 50% genetic, scientists conclude in major law journal", and Murray 2005 79. ^ Snyderman and Rothman 1987. Critics accept the results of this survey. Robert Sternberg, for example, defends the minority view, stating "science isn't done by majority rule" (1995). 80. ^ Murray lists race differences in brain size, along with "IQ in sub-Saharan Africa, the results of transracial adoption studies, the correlation of the black-white difference with the g-loadedness of tests, regression to racial means across the range of IQ, or other relevant data" among the evidence omitted 93. ^ Sowell 1981, pp. 7, 93 94. ^ A study by Princeton researchers Espanshade and Chung 2005 analyzes the effects of admission preferences at elite universities in terms of SAT points (1600-point scale): Blacks +230; Hispanics +185; Asians −50; Recruited athletes +200; Legacies (children of alumni) +160. "Our results show that removing consideration of race would have a minimal effect on white applicants to elite universities. The number of accepted white students would increase by 2.4%." Asian percent of accepted students, in contrast, would increase by 33% (from 23.7% to 31.5%). "Nearly four out of every five places in the admitted class not taken by African-American and Hispanic students would be filled by Asians." 95. ^ Hacker 2005 96. ^ Sowell 1981, pp. 133-134; Purdey 2002 97. ^ jinfo.org 2004 98. ^ Jank et al. 2004 99. ^ Cochran et al. 2005, p. 4 100. ^ Lynn, , Mackintosh 1998, p.178) 101. ^ Lynn 1991a 102. ^ Murray and Herrnstein 1994 103. ^ Gottfredson 2005b 104. ^ Gottfredson 1997a 105. ^ Gregory Stock argues "current debates about whether some of the differences among ethnic and racial groups are cultural or biological will soon become irrelevant, given the coming " (Stock 2002, p. 194; race and intelligence discussed on pp. 44-47). See also * Brain to body mass ratio * Craniometry * Hominid intelligence * Neuroscience and intelligence * Race and crime * Sex and intelligence * Scientific racism References Main article: Race and intelligence (References) External links Collective Statements * The Wall Street Journal: Mainstream Science on IntelligencePDF * APA Task Force Examines the Knowns and Unknowns of Intelligence * Statement on "Race" and Intelligence. American Anthropological Association. Adopted December 1994. Review Papers * June 2005 issue of Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, Vol. 11, No. 2. o Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability J. Philippe Rushton & Arthur R. Jensen o There Are No Public-Policy Implications Robert J. Sternberg o What if the Hereditarian Hypothesis is True? Linda S. Gottfredson o Heredity, Environment, and Race Differences in IQ Richard E. Nisbett o The Cultural Malleability of Intelligence and Its Impact on the Racial/Ethnic Hierarchy Lisa Suzuki & Joshua Aronson o Wanted: More Race Realism, Less Moralistic Fallacy J. Philippe Rushton & Arthur R. Jensen * Race, Genetics and IQ Richard E. Nisbett (PDF) * The Inequality Taboo Charles Murray * The Black-White Test Score Gap (1998) online (page-image) version of ISBN 0815746091 Others * Resurrecting Racism: The modern attack on black people using phony science. Historical and Investigative Research Francisco Gil-White 2005. * Crippled by Their Culture - Race doesn't hold back America's black rednecks. Nor does racism by Thomas Sowell * Race and IQ: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 by Thomas Sowell * The Skeptic's Dictionary entry on IQ and race * Criticism on source material of Bell Curve book * Poverty and Brain Development in Early Childhood 1999 report * Miscellaneous articles by Richard Lynn et al. * Are IQ Tests Biased? * Scholars Provide an Overview of Explanations for Black-White Test Score Gap * School Readiness: Closing Racial and Ethnic Gaps * Variation in IQ, Brain Capacity, Size and Density by Race * La Griffe du Lion - pseudonymously released statistical analyses on this and related subjects. (Review) * Are all races equally intelligent? -- Or: When is knowledge knowledge? by John J. Ray * A review of the field (Jan. 2006) Kohn, Marek, "This racist undercurrent in the tide of genetic research: As taboos fall away, there's a danger that denial of racial difference will be replaced with uncritical acceptance," The Guardian. * "Jews on Jews: Jews are Great," Seed Magazine This is the references from just one of the sites and this is only 1/4 of it as I cannont post the entire thing.

but thanks for attempting to undermine my research!! especially since i included boxing- which has nto been done much at all in sociological research there are weakness to my research as in any- clearly they are pointed out in my discussion section some must be reworked before publication such as: intercoder reliability: tinme and funding constraints did not allow me to have other coders sampl my sample and code the data to establish consistency among the results this was a qualitative analysis and not meant to provide generalizations just richness in data and as a theoretical groundwork for further studies

http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/stalkers/jpr_insight.html http://www.sizesurvey.com/result.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence http://www.bloodbook.com/race-eth.html -Ethnic makeup of different countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race -Evolution. none of your sources would be accepted by any scholar form any university hous

Hes so clearly pulling shit out of his ass. How would you come to Physical, Mental, and Macho? Machoism isnt related to related to the other two. Machoism is defined as proving your manhood through confrontation. You cannot physically be a boxer without machiosim and there are not different levels of this, you have it. A study about Physical / mental only would be a better investigation. Since your intereted in race this is everything you need to know about the differences between races. It answers everything Its also worth knowing that Caucasians have direct african blood in them, not just through evolution, but through direct mating. Most Hispanics have direct Caucaisan blood in places like Mexico, Puerto Rico, Brazil. Some have African in places like Cuba, Puerto Rico, Brazil. Only pure Hispanics tend to look more Mongoloid in places like Peru. The average African American is 20 - 25% Caucasian. hous: couple of probs no i'm not pulling shit out of my ass this work is towards my disertation as i am working on my phd second- your biological "data" is not from scholarly sources for example: wikipedia is not a reputable source- would you want your doc giving you info on stuff he read on the web hous third- those are mainly bio diff's in racial/ethnicity this study sought to further the reserach in sterotypical communications these communications whether true or not have real world implications to the viewers who recieve these confined images fourth- most of this crap has been disproven or written in books by those who do not agree with the vast majority of scholars fifth- hispanic is not a race - its an ethnicity this study was on stereotypical descriptions used by the broadcasters hous the macho component results from the socially held stereotype of hispanics please get your data straight before you question my work

Did you actually do any research? I dont think you did, every boxer has to have all three qualities or they would be murdered. When I think of macho, I think of big, in general that would be black / white boxers. yes, i did all the research hopefully, it will be published in a sociology of sport journal yes boxing entails that one must have all three dimensions for success yet commentators (in this sample) more commonly associated the success of hispanics with machsimo dimensions and the failures with a lack of mental acuity you must have missed the point Adapted Billings and Eastman Taxonomy (2002) for Racial Descriptors Explanations of athletic success Physical Dimension Athletic Skill Strength/Power Innate talent/ability Mental Dimension Composure/Concentration Experience Commitment/ Hardwork Adaptability/Strategy Machismo Dimension Aggression Bravery/Honor/ Intestinal Fortitude Ultra Confidence Other Explanations of athletic failure Physical Dimension Athletic Skill Strength/Power Innate talent/ability Mental Dimension Composure/Concentration Experience Commitment/ Hardwork Adaptability/Strategy Machismo Dimension Aggression Bravery/Honor/ Intestinal Fortitude Ultra Confidence Other this is the taxonomy save the raw data plugged in

Hes so clearly pulling shit out of his ass. How would you come to Physical, Mental, and Macho? Machoism isnt related to related to the other two. Machoism is defined as proving your manhood through confrontation. You cannot physically be a boxer without machiosim and there are not different levels of this, you have it. A study about Physical / mental only would be a better investigation. Since your intereted in race this is everything you need to know about the differences between races. It answers everything Its also worth knowing that Caucasians have direct african blood in them, not just through evolution, but through direct mating. Most Hispanics have direct Caucaisan blood in places like Mexico, Puerto Rico, Brazil. Some have African in places like Cuba, Puerto Rico, Brazil. Only pure Hispanics tend to look more Mongoloid in places like Peru. The average African American is 20 - 25% Caucasian. ...Wow, those are interesting stats.

Hes so clearly pulling shit out of his ass. How would you come to Physical, Mental, and Macho? Machoism isnt related to related to the other two. Machoism is defined as proving your manhood through confrontation. You cannot physically be a boxer without machiosim and there are not different levels of this, you have it. A study about Physical / mental only would be a better investigation. Since your intereted in race this is everything you need to know about the differences between races. It answers everything Whats with the interest in races? I can tell you everything you need to know. -Blacks are superior at sports where running is needed because blacks have smallerer hips than whites/asians/hispanics. This is because whites/asians/hispanic women give birth to children with larger cranial bones. Blacks dominate running sports, and hurdles. African ancestors ate food rich in carbohydrates which gives them more explosive energy. -Whites are superior at sports where strength is needed because whites are stronger when it comes to upper body stregth. Thats why whites dominate sports like the javelin throw, hammer throw, weight lifting. The reason is white ancestors ate food rich in protein. Also the reason why whites tend to be taller. -Asians are superior at sports when it comes to flexibility, sports like ice skating and gymnastics. -Black children are born a week ealier than white children and even earlier than aisan children. -Blacks also develop faster, they go through puberty quicker. -Blacks also tend to produce 3% more testosterone than whites until the age of 35 where they produce the same amount. Blacks produce up to 17% more testosterone than orientals. -There is a genetic reasoning to why there is a difference of IQ by race. Asians are superior when it comes to intellegence. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bd/IQ-4races-rotate-highres.png/401px-IQ-4races-rotate-highres.png Average Asian IQ = 106 Average White IQ = 103 Average Hispanic IQ = 93 Average Black IQ = 88 I would assume some, not all, is due to cultural difference. The penis steriotype, its unknown as different studies say different results. But the order is generally the same: Heres the two biggest results. Blacks - 6.49 Arab - 6.40 White - 6.22 Hispanic - 6.15 Native American - 5.66 Asian - 5.33 The point is every race has mastered their own native environment which has changed them in their own unique way. Things I learned from this: "In ancient Greek and Roman art, it is common to see the male genitalia to be smaller than one would expect for the size of the man. Renaissance art also followed this aesthetic; note Michelangelo's David. This was due to the belief that the genitalia should not distract from the male form in sculpture." http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/stalkers/jpr_insight.html http://www.sizesurvey.com/result.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence http://www.bloodbook.com/race-eth.html -Ethnic makeup of different countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race -Evolution. Its also worth knowing that Caucasians have direct african blood in them, not just through evolution, but through direct mating. Most Hispanics have direct Caucaisan blood in places like Mexico, Puerto Rico, Brazil. Some have African in places like Cuba, Puerto Rico, Brazil. Only pure Hispanics tend to look more Mongoloid in places like Peru. The average African American is 20 - 25% Caucasian.

Sounds Interesting! I'll read it.