If I am informed correctly, the following happened:
- He quit against Chris Byrd.
- He lost to Lennox Lewis fair and square but offended him sort of in the ring.
- He then said that he retired Lewis.
- After being an inactive champ for 11 months he retired, after a fight against Rahman was postponed four times.
- He said he is too injured for Rahman but would come back for Lewis.
Please tell me whether everything I listed is correct and what you think of it. Thank you in advance. :boxing:
To sum up Bozo's post- "No, I can't tell you you're wrong."
Hehe. Same ol Bozo. Here's the part where you run and leave me bad K and call me a nuthugger (like anyone who happens to disagree with you) for the 100th time.
Yeah, your gif perfectly substantiates my post. You picked out the best punch Lennox landed, his Sunday Punch, a huge uppercut, and Vitali handled it with little problem. That was the EXACT point of my post. Thanks for outsmarting yourself. LOL
You are so deluded, you're choaking on the nuts you're hugging.
You think that because he lacked defense, ate a bunch of shots he shouldn't have and lost via TKO, that undoubtably means he could have continued to walk through the amount of punishment he was eating for another 6 rounds?
You're not only pathetic, you're stupid.
You think Lennox was going to either KO Vitali, even though he never showed he could hurt him, or pitch a shutout in the 2nd half of the fight to squeak out a win. I simply disagree. I think those two scenarios were unlikely. He won and it was a legit win, yes, but without that freak tear/slice with the side of the glove, Lennox loses.
The fact you have concluded that Vitali could have continued to walk through shots that resulted in him looking like this after only 6 rounds:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/dantzu/KlitschkoOwned.jpg
for another 6 rounds makes you a deluded nut hugger. That is humorous to me.
He was not only losing a lot of blood from the cuts, he was spitting it up as well. Did you not notice how when they put pressure on one cut blood would come running out another cut?
He lost a lot of blood, and was looking very uncordinated and worn at the end of the 6th round.
But hey, I really think it's nice you have this indestructible full 12 rounds bit worked out in your head. Seems like there's more than a few entertaining things you find "most likely". :rolleyes:
And of course, you change the subject to try and put Vitali down when I point out Lennox abandoned his 3 fight plan and walked away from 20 mil rather than have to fave Vitali again. That's the telling fact in the fight, actually. It sums it up perfectly.
Like I said, and you ignored, fighters say a lot of things about what they intend to do. For example Vitali and his fans and all the talk about how he'd establish himself as a 'real' Heavyweight Champion, win an important fight, and build somewhat of a legacy. NONE of that happened.
You're a wounded little nut hugger, and everytime you attempt to speak to me you get owned.But nothing is more telling than finding you in another thread using how I scored the Hatton fight to back up your argument. If that was the other way around, I wouldn't be jumping to reference your insight, beucase you're a complete biased nutter. Just goes to show why you're always so desperate to justify yourself to me. LOL :rofl:
i would hate to say this but yes he should i agreed with everything you said except for the lennox lewis part because truth is he did retire lewis
Thanks for your honesty.
I think his age and physical condition retired Lewis.
To sum up Bozo's post- "No, I can't tell you you're wrong."
Hehe. Same ol Bozo. Here's the part where you run and leave me bad K and call me a nuthugger (like anyone who happens to disagree with you) for the 100th time.
Yeah, your gif perfectly substantiates my post. You picked out the best punch Lennox landed, his Sunday Punch, a huge uppercut, and Vitali handled it with little problem. That was the EXACT point of my post. Thanks for outsmarting yourself. LOL
You think Lennox was going to either KO Vitali, even though he never showed he could hurt him, or pitch a shutout in the 2nd half of the fight to squeak out a win. I simply disagree. I think those two scenarios were unlikely. He won and it was a legit win, yes, but without that freak tear/slice with the side of the glove, Lennox loses.
And of course, you change the subject to try and put Vitali down when I point out Lennox abandoned his 3 fight plan and walked away from 20 mil rather than have to fave Vitali again. That's the telling fact in the fight, actually. It sums it up perfectly.
But if he is too injured for Rahman, why is he healthy enough for Lewis?
Because injuries heal? Surely you knew that. if they didn't human life-expectancy would be much lower.
I think in retiring what he did was quite honorable. He could have asked for another postponement, but he chose to clear the path. He could have fought injured, collected millions of dollars and lost, but that would have ruined his (albeit small) legacy. he could have fought injured and won, but exacerbated the injury and wound up retiring anyway, ths time as a cripple.
As for Lewis, we will never know if that statement is true, but it could well be. He was gaining ground in that fight, and may have gone on to win. The stoppage on cuts was certainly fair. If Lewis had not retired, there was no way he could have avoided a rematch, and whether he was winning or not, Big Klit was giving him the toughest fight of his life and hurting him in that match. Would you want to go through that again if you already had millions and didn't need to?
Chris Byrd isthe one he should have been ashamed of. The only chance he had to lose that fight would have been to be KOd by Byrd, and we all know that wouldn't have happened. He could have fought one-handed for the last couple of rounds. And before the apologists start, yes, I've had a toen rotator cuff, and I continued working with a jackhammer throughout. It took months to heal becuase of it, but I have no permanentinjury as a result. He could have made 6 more minutes.
LOL, so you just went and searched somehow to see what other threads I've posted in today? ROFL Obsessed much?
How difficult was it to notice the only posts you'd made upon coming to the forum today were in a thread you labeled worthless from the start? Less time that it takes for you to write one of your self justification essays.
We have two different views. I saw Lennox get hurt in the fight by Vitali's punches, but never saw Vitali hurt by Lennox's
That's because like the rest of the fanatics here, you saw him absorb shots like this:
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/20305Lewis_Uppercut_Klitschko.gif
and figured because he didn't go down that he could just keep walking through anything, ignoring the fact his face got into mud pie, and had him waltzing right into your mind and a fantasy points win or late round KO.
The bottom line is he did well early, and then the strategy of taking shots to give them saw his plan turn for the worse. The shots Lewis landed were taking their toll, and if you don't think that would have made a differnce had the fight gone on, then you're more biased and deluded than I thought.
Then I saw Lennox, who went into the fight with a 3 fight plan, change his mind and turn down 20 mil rather than face Vitali again, and decide to retire for good.
Fighters say a lot of things, as do there fans. Take for example Vitali's plan to unify titles, establish himself a noteworthy legacy, and to never give up his WBC title. That didn't go so well either, did it.
He has nothing to be ashamed of, but he certianly fell short of what he and his rabid fans suggested what he'd acomplish in a wide open division. He beat two out of shape fringe contenders over 18 months, gave up his title and retired.
He lost the two most significant fights he was in, and is nowhere near Hall of Fame worthy.
You're a nut hugger, and you know it. I like how you commented on how the thread was stupid, yet it's the only one you've posted in today. :rolleyes:
Aside from the fact he TKO'd him, it's no suprise you'd say that because you were watching with giddy bias.
Vitali was taking a terrible beating, and the fact Lewis landed at 50% of his punches (being one of the hardest hitting heavies of all time) is a telling stat. Vitali looked weak and lost in the last round, and didn't throw a single punch in the last 30 seconds. Go back and have a look.
There's no way he was going to continue eating those kind of shots.
LOL, so you just went and searched somehow to see what other threads I've posted in today? ROFL Obsessed much?
We have two different views. I saw Lennox get hurt in the fight by Vitali's punches, but never saw Vitali hurt by Lennox's, and I saw Lennox losing the fight and needing to win almost every remaining round to win the fight.
Then I saw Lennox, who went into the fight with a 3 fight plan, change his mind and turn down 20 mil rather than face Vitali again, and decide to retire for good.
Tell me what I saw that's wrong.... :)
Yes you are back, and like the others that will follow, it's entertaining that this is the topic that has you crawling out from under the rock you've been hiding under.
I love how it's a it's a stupid thread etc, and yet it brings all of you cheerleaders running back.
You are a racist and a moron. Go back to selling bootlegged tapes on eBay and buying silky sheets for the money that you made from that. Not much of a life, if you ask me.
The village idiot is back.
Yes you are back, and like the others that will follow, it's entertaining that this is the topic that has you crawling out from under the rock you've been hiding under.
I love how it's a it's a stupid thread etc, and yet it brings all of you cheerleaders running back.
Yep, right on clue. Personal attacks and calling anyone who disagrees with you a "nut hugger."
I saw nothing in the fight which would lead me to think Lennox was going to be able to KO Vitali. I think Lennox not being able to pitch a shutout in the final 6 rounds is more likely than Vitali being KO'd- he already proved he could take Lennox's best early shots unphased.
You're a nut hugger, and you know it. I like how you commented on how the thread was stupid, yet it's the only one you've posted in today. :rolleyes:
I saw nothing in the fight which would lead me to think Lennox was going to be able to KO Vitali.
Aside from the fact he TKO'd him, it's no suprise you'd say that because you were watching with giddy bias.
Vitali was taking a terrible beating, and the fact Lewis landed at 50% of his punches (being one of the hardest hitting heavies of all time) is a telling stat. Vitali looked weak and lost in the last round, and didn't throw a single punch in the last 30 seconds. Go back and have a look.
There's no way he was going to continue eating those kind of shots.
Guys are desperate when they lose. It happens all the time.
It's that kind of desperation that lives on to this day in wounded fans of his like you that can't get over what happned.
He had his chance, and lost. He got the worse of it by far in the fight, and it showed.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/dantzu/KlitschkoOwned.jpg
The village idiot is back.
Too bad you were not banned permanently. I guess that BPP decided that we all need some entertainment and let you back in.
LOL Pull the clip of a sullen Lennox as they announce him as the winner.
Pull Vitali jumping up on the ropes, grabbing Lennox, grabbing the ref and anyone else he could get his hands on, begging for the fight to continue. ROFL
Are you kidding? The only thing that haters want to remember is the fact that Lewis won by TKO.
How can you say that someone should be ashamed of himself when he wanted to continue fighting with half his face torn off is beyond me. How can anyone say that Vitali could be scared of Rahman who landed what, one right hand in 12 rounds against fat and puffing Toney is beyond me. What is clear though, is that haters will be blinded by hatred no matter how many facts are out there.
That's because you're a nut hugging clown.
Vitali was taking a tremendous amount of punishment, and was fading as the fight went on. He looked very weak in the 6th, and didn't trow a single punch in the last 30 seconds of the round. The "Lewis looked tired when he sat on his stool" line is a cop out.
It was a slug fest, and it wasn't going 12 rounds. Suggesting Vitali could have contimued to take everything Lewis threw is as sill as it is a desperate attempt to put a positive spin on the ending.
Punches are trown with the intent of causing damage. The cut was from a glancing shot, but the rest of the damage and cuts were telling of the amount of shots he was eating. Lewis landed 50% of the power shots he threw.
Yep, right on cue. Personal attacks and calling anyone who disagrees with you a "nut hugger."
I saw nothing in the fight which would lead me to think Lennox was going to be able to KO Vitali. I think Lennox not being able to pitch a shutout in the final 6 rounds is more likely than Vitali being KO'd- he already proved he could take Lennox's best early shots unphased.
LOL Pull the clip of a sullen Lennox as they announce him as the winner.
Pull Vitali jumping up on the ropes, grabbing Lennox, grabbing the ref and anyone else he could get his hands on, begging for the fight to continue. ROFL
Guys are desperate when they lose. It happens all the time.
It's that kind of desperation that lives on to this day in wounded fans of his like you that can't get over what happned.
He had his chance, and lost. He got the worse of it by far in the fight, and it showed.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/dantzu/KlitschkoOwned.jpg
So he just vacates the title .... okay.
And keeps calling out the old man ..... okay.
Seriously, I do not mean to be rude or impolite or disrespectful, but to me this does not make sense.
In my view Klitschko was scared of Rahman, his long reach, good jab and powerful right hand. Rahman was in there with the best, he fights everybody and anybody ... Klitschko does not.
lol,,,rahman does not have a powerful right hand. its modest at best. hell,,,when was the last time he even dropped an opponent?
You don't lose fights for wobbeling (early on) nor do you win fights for being ahead after 6 rounds when your STOPPED because your face looks like mud pie.
You're a nuthugger. Give it a rest. You've had years to get over it.
roflmao. my god you had the nerve to come back after you were exposed and humiliated like you were and you have gaul to go right back to the ole "nuthugging" routine. LMAO.......
Vitali had taken everything and was raring to go, looking to me like the stronger fighter by far.
That's because you're a nut hugging clown.
Vitali was taking a tremendous amount of punishment, and was fading as the fight went on. He looked very weak in the 6th, and didn't trow a single punch in the last 30 seconds of the round. The "Lewis looked tired when he sat on his stool" line is a cop out.
It was a slug fest, and it wasn't going 12 rounds. Suggesting Vitali could have contimued to take everything Lewis threw is as silly as it is a desperate attempt to put a positive spin on the ending.
Punches are trown with the intent of causing damage. The cut was from a glancing shot, but the rest of the damage and cuts were telling of the amount of shots he was eating. Lewis landed 50% of the power shots he threw.
whats really funny is that in order for vitali to be outboxing lewis, lennox's face should have been torn off. the damage that lennox did to klitoris's face negates any earlier success that vitali had.
lol,,,to be out boxing a guy,,the other guys face should be torn off? lmao,,,,your name fits you well. lewis did have a nasty gash across his nose,,,but lewis has much tougher skin than vitali and has never suffered from cuts in his career
Funny, the look on Vitali's face didn't look like that of someone who won anything.
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,274060,00.jpg
LOL Pull the clip of a sullen Lennox as they announce him as the winner.
Pull Vitali jumping up on the ropes, grabbing Lennox, grabbing the ref and anyone else he could get his hands on, begging for the fight to continue. ROFL
He continued to land on the cut, and caused 4 others.
Vitali's plan of taking shots to land them is what lost him the fight. Had it continued, it's also what would have been the telling factor.
He was taking a horrible beating to his head and face, and that was by far the bigger factor than the points. Suggesting he could have continued to eat shots like that for 12 rounds is non sense.
But none of the other cuts were factors, just the eyelid one... which was a tear, actually, not a cut. Lennox was the only one hurt in the fight, Vitali had taken everything and was raring to go, looking to me like the stronger fighter by far. Lennox would've had to win 5 of the next 6 to win, which was doubtful. That freak side-of-the-glove cut luckily won him the fight and saved his legacy.
Lennox knew it, that's why he left all that money behind and retired. He had announced he would fight 3 more times, remember? One fight with Vitali, and the prospect of a rematch was enough to make him change his mind, lose those promised millions and retire for good.