The IBF has ordered a heavyweight elimination bout between undefeated Sultan Ibragimov and former WBA champion John Ruiz, the winner of this fight will become the mandatory challenger for champion Wladimir Klitschko. Courtesy of boxing talk...
ive only read the first page of this thread. i can't believe what i'm reading. i hate on ruiz but ibragimov is hardly above the clubfighter stage in his career at this time.he doesnt have a chance against john louise. i'm amazed that the hoaky ibf is even calling for this.
i object to calling a fighter with extensive amateur success and an olympic medal a clubfighter. sultan has skills and kknows how to use them, and has completely owned everyone he has met on the "clubfighter" level.
if he is a clubfighter than sam peter is one, actually even more so.
say whatever u want and we all dont like Ruiz but hes never turned a challange down, he was the guy calling everybody out and wrtting letters to everyone of the champs to unify the titles, I tink ruiz will take this fight I will be suprised if he doesnt...
get ready to be surprised my friend.
ruiz is still rated higher by the WBA than the IBF. though he has not gotten the rematch with valuev that he desired he will likely find himself in the position of being offered an eliminator for a shot at valuevs title. if he is offered two eliminator matches... one against ray austin for the chance to fight valuev again (remember austin turned down match against igbraminov himself cause he is waiting for something else)
and one against sultan igbraminov for the right to fight for wlad klitschkos title..... which do you think he will be choosing?
James Toney was the man, but lets face it now he is an old,bald,240 pound tub of goo. Also he is a non puncher at heavyweight, Wlad would KO him, my arse JT can't be knocked out who do people think he is??
IBF order dont mean shit
how many of you think we will actually see this fight?
ruiz isnt dumb, he knows there are easier roads than igbraminov
say whatever u want and we all dont like Ruiz but hes never turned a challange down, he was the guy calling everybody out and wrtting letters to everyone of the champs to unify the titles, I tink ruiz will take this fight I will be suprised if he doesnt...
Don't be surprised if the soft punching Toney stops Wlad, if it happens, I will make sure to bring this up to you.
One thing I will tell you, Wlad will never KO Toney, it just wont happen, if anyone gets stopped in this fight, it will be Wlad.
ok I will bet u money points whatever, Wlad beats toney...
He will beat Wlad if they ever fight, I will bet you any amount of money you want on it. For you calling Toney piece of crap, then you really don't know anything about boxing.
This fight will probably will never happen, because Wlad people will not take this fight. The only HW I see giving Toney problems is Sergi, reason being he has alot of tools for an HW, also Sergi is much faster then Wlad.
Wlad has good offensive tools, but he has way too many problems to dominate the HW divison for a long time.
toneys people wont let it happen, Klitschko seems to be the only champ available for toney, why doesnt he call him out???
Serge is a good fighter I but he is not faster then Wlad, Wlads hands are the fastest in the heavyweight division. I dont respect Toney because he gets title shots like nothing and doesnt even seem to care about it, coming in at 240 lbs and his height is only 5"9, he lost all my respect in the Rahman fight, and If a fight with Klitschko is ever gonna happen toney would get the worst beating of his life...
Ruiz deserves another chance I still don't know why he didn't get a rematch with Valeav
Because don king is invloved. After the Ruiz vs Valuev fight, king relinquished his promotional contract with Ruiz. If king really liked Ruiz as a fighter and he brought money in for king then Ruiz would have definitely gotten a rematch right away with Valuev.
i would rather have herpes than watch one more Ruiz fight.
I know that's right. Well it's a toss up between slamming my dick in the door repeatedly or herpes.
Wlad beats Sultan who beats Ruiz.
Toney beats whoever they put in front of him next.
Toney and Wlad fight.
Toney takes Wlad deep and drowns him. Late stoppage or UD.
Wlad is the second fastest heavy and still wont come close to landing the shots he landed on byrd.
OR
Toney comes in at around 240 and gets KO'd in 4
Both are possible. Im a fan of both guys and have followed them for a long time...and both of those scenarios are legit.
Remember...Toney at his worst, fought to a draw with Rahman at his best. Ruiz,Guinn,Holyfield,Rahman,Booker and Jirov all agree that Toney doesnt get walked over by anyone.
If Sultan Ibragimov is bout anything he'll beat Ruiz.Just joking Ruiz is hell to beat ask Oquendo, Golota, or Rahman.I've heard that Ruiz was robbed against Valuev so that tells that size isn't going to beat him.Still this is an interesting fight and I hope it's on tv.
You're telling me....Sergei Liakahovic has faster feet and hands than Wladimir Klitschko? Sergei is fucking stationary man.
Come on now, Liakhovich is defenitely not faster than Wlad but he is pretty fast for HW. He is also very well conditioned. Brewster couldn't keep up with him and Liakhovich was still going fast and hard in the 12th round.
By seeing both of them fight. Wlad isn't all that fast. Sergi is faster & quicker.
You're telling me....Sergei Liakahovic has faster feet and hands than Wladimir Klitschko? Sergei is fucking stationary man.
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The IBF has ordered a heavyweight elimination bout between undefeated Sultan Ibragimov and former WBA champion John Ruiz, the winner of this fight will become the mandatory challenger for champion Wladimir Klitschko. Courtesy of boxing talk...
There is a God. :) Just the thought of John Ruiz getting in the ring with two guys that can take his head off gives me to warm fuzzies all over. :)