i haven't seen a thread about this, and i'm curious about everyone else's views. i bring it up because everyone's always knocking it, which is deserved in cases like ruiz. but i agree 100% with what's-his-name from hbo. not lederman but the soft spoken one with white hair. it's not bad when it's done STRATEGICALLY. clinching is part of german boxing. wladimir is great at it, henry maske was excellent at it. i hate it when it's done to get a rest, but also when it's repetative and drawn-out. the german boxing style uses clinching to wear down the opponent, it's totally calculated and not drawn-out. wlad against peter was a great showing of how it is used methodically. i know everyone likes the toe to toe punches only balls to the wall fighting, but i'm from germany and although i don't know everything about everything, i'm an absolutely enormous fan of boxing. and i like boxers. ko's are nice, but i like the strategy involved. clinching is okay when you use it right. am i alone on this?
so Wlad catches a rest every 10 sec? Pls take the "Bias" Goggles off.
wlad does it to draw the fight out because he likes to box and its no fun for him to knock everyone out in the first round. hed rather take them apart slowly and enjoy the kill.
After Round 3, in the corner, Stewart tells Wlad "If he gets close, hug him or push him hard". That's just a cheap move.
im assuming you have no respect for george foreman either considering he liked to push his opponents halfway across the ring.
ali is called the greatest and he made clinching and holding behind the neck an art form... lewis also clinched alot and is considered the greatest of his era...
so Wlad catches a rest every 10 sec? Pls take the "Bias" Goggles off.
lmao. every 10 seconds? clearly your a biased hater. if he held every 10 seconds how the hell did he throw more than double the amount of punches as peter, you moron. face it,,,peter got a boxing lesson and was schooled by a much better fighter. deal with it and take it out on manny if you dont like thats tyle
its done to catch a rest stupid. and its a good tactic when your a big heavyweight
so Wlad catches a rest every 10 sec? Pls take the "Bias" Goggles off.
Stweard teaches Wlad to cheat though.
After Round 3, in the corner, Stewart tells Wlad "If he gets close, hug him or push him hard". That's just a cheap move. He's 30lbs bigga than Byrd, what's the need to clinch, hug and push him?
Wlad dont need to clicnh. He's a big guy that always have the size advantage. In his part, that is cheap tactic and deserve no respect.
its done to catch a rest stupid. and its a good tactic when your a big heavyweight
There is nothing wrong with the way Wlad does it...Emanuel has taught him to do it right, it enables his control over the fighter from fighting on the inside against him, plus, gives him a quick breather.
I am not a huge fan of it, but understand it is a part of boxing.
If you want to see some crazy holding, but kind of funny, look at some Jack Johnson fights where he uses it to embarrass his opponent.
Ruiz = terrible
Ricky Hatton = I wouldn't trust him inside a locker room
Clinching is the only way that HW's can preserve their energy and recover a little bit after they throw a combo. I have no problem with it, unless it becomes like John Ruiz clinching.
i haven't seen a thread about this, and i'm curious about everyone else's views. i bring it up because everyone's always knocking it, which is deserved in cases like ruiz. but i agree 100% with what's-his-name from hbo. not lederman but the soft spoken one with white hair. it's not bad when it's done STRATEGICALLY. clinching is part of german boxing. wladimir is great at it, henry maske was excellent at it. i hate it when it's done to get a rest, but also when it's repetative and drawn-out. the german boxing style uses clinching to wear down the opponent, it's totally calculated and not drawn-out. wlad against peter was a great showing of how it is used methodically. i know everyone likes the toe to toe punches only balls to the wall fighting, but i'm from germany and although i don't know everything about everything, i'm an absolutely enormous fan of boxing. and i like boxers. ko's are nice, but i like the strategy involved. clinching is okay when you use it right. am i alone on this?
Hey welcome to the forums.
I agree with you, the shit Ruiz does and the shit rahemm did to popo I hate. What Wlad did against Peter I don't mind b/c he at least punches and throws some punches, ruiz and Raheem seemed to just hold on for dear life.