Is America still great in Heavyweight Boxing...? Here is why I say yes...

I don't really care as long as the heavyweights put on a good fight. Liakhovich v. Brewster was a sensational heavyweight fight, and I'm hoping that the Eastern Europeans make the heavyweight division more excited. Thats all. It's not about who is greater, who is worse, I just want to see some great fights, and Byrd and Ruiz are finally out thanks to Valuev and Klitschko anda I applaud them for doing something no one could do for a very long time. I don't know how good boxing trainers are in Russia, but if you watch MMA, Fedor Emelianenko the Pride FC heavyweight champion and regarded as one of the best fighters around the world uses Russian trainers, but he lives in Russia. Once you move to Germany like many Russian fighters are you get German trainers or American trainers in the USA. Same with England, they have English trainers for the most part unless they want to move. So not sure where you are getting with the trainers. There are plenty of good trainers it just depends on geography. Not sure of the question... But if you are askin what my point is, here goes... Name one non-American trained Heavyweight to win a recognized World's Title and defend it at least a few times against top opposition in the past 20-30 years...? I am not saying no one like that exists, I am saying I don't know of any off the top of my head at all... Also almost all of the best Heavyweights of today and recent history are American trained fighters and Wlad is a perfect example of how different a can fighter look after a great American trainer like Manny Steward gets his hands on 'em... If you watched the Byrd fight which I am sure you did, you heard Manny in the corner telling Wlad how to win the fight (not to mention Manny trained both brothers and made them real contenders after another non-American HW named Lewis retired, a man which neither brother could beat even when Lewis barely trained for a fight which is a whole other story), and when Wlad followed the game plan set forth by Manny he won easy, Byrd was technically outmatched and had no chance to win that fight. There is a science to boxing and you can go all the way back to another era and a man named Louis to be reminded how important having a corner that knows the science is in a big fight and how big a victory can be won inside the boxing ring... To make it even clearer, I am not an American, but many of the best Heavyweight boxers in Canadian history have for the most part had American trainers, and I was tipping my hat to the greatest HW boxing trainers of all time, most of whom happen to be American... Catch what I am saying???

I don't really care as long as the heavyweights put on a good fight. Liakhovich v. Brewster was a sensational heavyweight fight, and I'm hoping that the Eastern Europeans make the heavyweight division more excited. Thats all. It's not about who is greater, who is worse, I just want to see some great fights, and Byrd and Ruiz are finally out thanks to Valuev and Klitschko anda I applaud them for doing something no one could do for a very long time. I don't know how good boxing trainers are in Russia, but if you watch MMA, Fedor Emelianenko the Pride FC heavyweight champion and regarded as one of the best fighters around the world uses Russian trainers, but he lives in Russia. Once you move to Germany like many Russian fighters are you get German trainers or American trainers in the USA. Same with England, they have English trainers for the most part unless they want to move. So not sure where you are getting with the trainers. There are plenty of good trainers it just depends on geography.

I think the U.S. is still great in Heavyweight boxing and here is why... If you noticed both of the big time Heavyweight Champions of present (Klitschko and Rahman) are great American trained Heavyweights (lets be honest, Manny Steward is one of the main reasons any Klitshko ever held a real Heavyweight Title). For some reason when fighters that are trained in the U.S.(wherever they originated from), they tend to grow into geat or better fighters than they were previously; And for those you think the European "New Age" in Heavyweight Champions doesn't have anything to do with the U.S., you really need some smelling salt. I am Canadian, and very proud, and if it wasn't for Manny Steward, Lennox Lewis would have not been as Great as he was. Now, the Klitshko 'lil brother does good under Manny, and threatens to change the shape of Heavyweight Champions of today with European dominance (as he should easily beat the other 2 major title holders for Europe) , and this kinda reminds me of another Canadian (I use Canadian loosely with Lennox as he was born in England), and that Heavyweight contender faught the true greatest "Ali" twice (as only Frazier did); that's George Chuvalo. George was also trained by a great American trainer Teddy McWhorter (from Detroit). So I take this chance to tip my hat to the great American trainers of all time including; Steward, McWhorter, D'Amato, Dundee, Futch and all of the others that have shaped the Heavyweight division we have watched that has transformed into the international competition we get to watch today... Good post. American trainers, they kinda design foriegn heavies to be American heavies, Lennox lewis and recently Wlad Klitscko are the case in point. So regardless the nationality, America still owns the heavyweight division. Karma for you!

OK, and to add to the thoughts I have noticed the most on this post... QUESTION: Who is the future of Heavyweight Boxing and where is his trainer from?

I think the U.S. is still great in Heavyweight boxing and here is why... If you noticed both of the big time Heavyweight Champions of present (Klitschko and Rahman) are great American trained Heavyweights (lets be honest, Manny Steward is one of the main reasons any Klitshko ever held a real Heavyweight Title). For some reason when fighters that are trained in the U.S.(wherever they originated from), they tend to grow into geat or better fighters than they were previously; And for those you think the European "New Age" in Heavyweight Champions doesn't have anything to do with the U.S., you really need some smelling salt. I am Canadian, and very proud, and if it wasn't for Manny Steward, Lennox Lewis would have not been as Great as he was. Now, the Klitshko 'lil brother does good under Manny, and threatens to change the shape of Heavyweight Champions of today with European dominance (as he should easily beat the other 2 major title holders for Europe) , and this kinda reminds me of another Canadian (I use Canadian loosely with Lennox as he was born in England), and that Heavyweight contender faught the true greatest "Ali" twice (as only Frazier did); that's George Chuvalo. George was also trained by a great American trainer Teddy McWhorter (from Detroit). So I take this chance to tip my hat to the great American trainers of all time including; Steward, McWhorter, D'Amato, Dundee, Futch and all of the others that have shaped the Heavyweight division we have watched that has transformed into the international competition we get to watch today... I gots to give you kudos for that post, bra. I would go into the whole argument of the fighter must be wiling to learn and be hungry enough to execute thing; but why cast doubt on a good point? Great post.

28 aint old in that division though it is to start off although its 8 years younger than skelton and 1 year younger than tarver was i think yeah if he can get a match with a top 20 and win then he could turn out to be the first real MMA guy to make a real impact

it a long hard road for a 28 year old time will get him if nothing else 28 aint old in that division though it is to start off although its 8 years younger than skelton and 1 year younger than tarver was i think

it a long hard road for a 28 year old time will get him if nothing else

he's not going to be champ. maybe he will make midcard level or even a butterbean type career out of it but that's about all i agree completely man although i do think he coulda been something in boxing if he had started in it back when he was 19 when those hands were even more blazing fast he still has real fast hands so hell be one of the fastest throwing heavyweights no doubt but fast hands alone arent enough of course he just debuted what last month so if he gets 5 or 6 fights a year for a while itll still be a while before hes built that record ready to step up and no telling who the champs will be by then thatd be at the earliest 2008 probably 2009 really so every current champ might be retired by then or might have at least fallen off who knows brock might be champ or ibragimov or that russian olympian guy alexandre or whatever

matt skelton made the transition to boxing pretty well and he was old as hell like 36 belfort is 28 so who knows especially if they get him a reputable trainer he's not going to be champ. maybe he will make midcard level or even a butterbean type career out of it but that's about all

matt skelton made the transition to boxing pretty well and he was old as hell like 36 belfort is 28 so who knows especially if they get him a reputable trainer

vitor belfort is the future of the heavyweight division watch out lol nah i wish

why box for a million dollars when you can be a line man in the NFL or play NBA and make millions of dollars ? That is the only problem we have in the heavyweight division. To make the NFL or NBA the chances are one in a million the chance of being a champion boxer is one in a billion, people like eazy money or eazy er in this case

I think the U.S. is still great in Heavyweight boxing and here is why... If you noticed both of the big time Heavyweight Champions of present (Klitschko and Rahman) are great American trained Heavyweights (lets be honest, Manny Steward is one of the main reasons any Klitshko ever held a real Heavyweight Title). For some reason when fighters that are trained in the U.S.(wherever they originated from), they tend to grow into geat or better fighters than they were previously; And for those you think the European "New Age" in Heavyweight Champions doesn't have anything to do with the U.S., you really need some smelling salt. I am Canadian, and very proud, and if it wasn't for Manny Steward, Lennox Lewis would have not been as Great as he was. Now, the Klitshko 'lil brother does good under Manny, and threatens to change the shape of Heavyweight Champions of today with European dominance (as he should easily beat the other 2 major title holders for Europe) , and this kinda reminds me of another Canadian (I use Canadian loosely with Lennox as he was born in England), and that Heavyweight contender faught the true greatest "Ali" twice (as only Frazier did); that's George Chuvalo. George was also trained by a great American trainer Teddy McWhorter (from Detroit). So I take this chance to tip my hat to the great American trainers of all time including; Steward, McWhorter, D'Amato, Dundee, Futch and all of the others that have shaped the Heavyweight division we have watched that has transformed into the international competition we get to watch today... you do havesome points...props for that however, you say manny is the reason any klitschko everheld a hwtitle, thats just plain wrong manny was never vks trainer and both off them had been champions before theystarted to work with manny

The future Heavyweight Champion of the world is American. 2005 Cadet World Championship Isiah Thomas (not the former Detroit Piston). ive got my hopes riding on him as well, manny steward raves about him

This kind of reminds me of when they talk about Basketball...great players are coming out of Europe...basketball programs are being spread all over Europe, run by Pro-basketball teams, colleges, brand names, etc. from the United States. These programs have top coaches that actually teach the game, and have players that are WILLING to LEARN how to play the correct way, the "American" way ;) They are said to actually spend time watching video tape of old games from the 1970-early 1990's to show what basketball was about. The Unites States has had great coaches for a long time, but it seems that there isn't enough of a push to keep such coaching for the kids here. Maybe the companies that are involved with the oversea programs see the way the culture of the youth in America is so they just go for the more secure deal. For me, I don't blame the youth as much as I blame the "System", the adults that run everything. There needs to be a change because eventually our (U.S.A.) coaches of the future are not going to be that great...if our future coaches are the ones that are currently playing, we are in trouble, why? Because they don't know how to actually play like they did 10-20 years ago. This is the same for boxing...it seems that the fighters are not as good, though there are still the top fighters that are good, the talent and coaching expertise is suffering

Isn't Liakhovich american trained as well.I'm not one to fall into the hype that europeans are taking over the divsion.Valuev beat Ruiz by controversial majority decision.Liakhovich beat Brewster but didn't show me that he was the better fighter against Brewster and imo Brewster has a chance at beating him in a rematch.I'm not saying he will but Liakhovich did not show me in their terrific fight that he can beat Lamon every time they fight.No matter how good Wlad's performance was against the ageing and feather fisted Byrd he still has a shaky chin and there are some heavy hitters in the division currently.Such as Peter, Rahman, Briggs, and Brewster.Three of those four are american.The division is wide open and it seems that anybody can beat anybody else on any given day no matter what nationality they are.

The future Heavyweight Champion of the world is American. 2005 Cadet World Championship Isiah Thomas (not the former Detroit Piston).