That's the trouble, the ease at which Wlad would handle him could leave him lax for a right hand counter. If Williams had better defensive skill and forced Wlad to fight him cautiously for 12 rounds he would, ironically, be LESS of a threat. It's William's vulnerability coupled with his courage and ability to land a big punch when in trouble that makes him a dangerous matchup for Wlad.
That's my exact point.
He's dangerous because he can take a punch and fire back. I never claimed he'd beat Wlad because I don't think he would.
I think he would get knocked out in the mid rounds, but I'd be really nervous watching that because I'm a fan of Klitschko.
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That's the trouble, the ease at which Wlad would handle him could leave him lax for a right hand counter. If Williams had better defensive skill and forced Wlad to fight him cautiously for 12 rounds he would, ironically, be LESS of a threat. It's William's vulnerability coupled with his courage and ability to land a big punch when in trouble that makes him a dangerous matchup for Wlad.
Come on man, You and I both know Williams aint giving Wladimir no trouble..Skelton beat him, Wladimir would pound him bad probably worse than Vitali did.
Williams has got a lot of heart, NO question...Lets see the Williams/Skelton rematch and If that is any good, then I might consider it.
I agree. my god,,,danny williams is so awful defensively and wlad would have a field day with his accurate punches. wlad doesnt have vits chin,,but is much quicker and more accurate with his punches and he'd probably finish what vitali didnt in the first round. easy early knockout for wlad
Come on man, You and I both know Williams aint giving Wladimir no trouble..Skelton beat him, Wladimir would pound him bad probably worse than Vitali did.
Williams has got a lot of heart, NO question...Lets see the Williams/Skelton rematch and If that is any good, then I might consider it.
If you watch the way he absorbed punishment against Tyson and Vitali.....you'd see a guy that can remain dangerous with a punch even after getting pummeled.
I agree, in that we need to see the Skelton endeavour first, but if you notice....Williams was getting shallocked by Vitali with nasty hard punches, and he still had the wits about him to throw that hard Right hand.
And it's fast and straight out of a video game.
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That's a routine man.
He was getting into the routine of clinching like that so that it becomes automatic. Working on Byrd is like practice when facing bigger punchers.
some people are clueless when it comes to clinching or holding. wlad was not holding against byrd,,,,he was clinching briefly. this technique is done to catch a brief rest. ali did it brilliantly throught his career. steward also had lewis doing it later in his career and it served him well
man,,,that reminded me a lot of lennox lewis. the way he kind of had his left hand out there to keep byrd at a distance and push him back and occasionally clinch briefly to get a rest. great coaching by steward and great execution by wlad. if he fights the same way against everyone else he has a good chance of keeping that belt for a while. the only guy I could see giving him big trouble is if he rematched peter again. because of peter's chin and right hand. I think he'd spank brewster in a rematch and easily kayo rahman who has no defensive ability or toney who just doesnt have the reach or power to trouble him
It still stands with me.
The guy I think could really trouble him is Danny Williams.
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That's a routine man.
He was getting into the routine of clinching like that so that it becomes automatic. Working on Byrd is like practice when facing bigger punchers.
Your right. Steward has got that trained into instinct now.
I really don't know if I have ever seen a top fighter change this much, AFTER he became a champ.
Thanks.
My final thoughts go as follow. The fight was pretty much how I expected it would go, because we have to keep in mind Wladimir was fighting Chris Byrd. He doesn't have the punch to hurt him, and that's just awful. There is nothing Byrd does better than him, with the exception of duck punches.
The arsenal of punches Byrd was hit with reminded me of the Pre Sanders Wlad except the key difference this time...is he clinches a bit.
That's how Steward trained Lennox to protect himself and I must say....Steward and his new training influences are the best thing ever. At this point in time Wlad is fighting alot like Lennox did. Jabs, Nasty rights, and that little quick clinch.
I also agree with what Larry Merchant stated in there is nothing wrong with the way Wlad clinches. It's a fast grab, and he doesn't do it all that often.
I like the idea that he can do that against a guy that punches really hard, and he can stay on the outside landing the hard right hand. That's a frustrating style for anyone in the division to fight and it's only going to get better.
Credit Byrd for fighting like a man, putting his gaurd up and trying to wear WK out. It was a horror show, but he went out like a warrior, and even admitted it himself.
He's not on Wlad's level as a fighter, but he recieved a great payday and earned alot of respect.
man,,,that reminded me a lot of lennox lewis. the way he kind of had his left hand out there to keep byrd at a distance and push him back and occasionally clinch briefly to get a rest. great coaching by steward and great execution by wlad. if he fights the same way against everyone else he has a good chance of keeping that belt for a while. the only guy I could see giving him big trouble is if he rematched peter again. because of peter's chin and right hand. I think he'd spank brewster in a rematch and easily kayo rahman who has no defensive ability or toney who just doesnt have the reach or power to trouble him
When Wlad needs to clinch against Bryd, that just sucks.
That's a routine man.
He was getting into the routine of clinching like that so that it becomes automatic. Working on Byrd is like practice when facing bigger punchers.
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He is fighting a guy tonight that poops out pretty quick. I think it will be a good fight.
yea man,,,,he was so gassed in that last round. haha,,,you stupid bitch :)
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My final thoughts go as follow. The fight was pretty much how I expected it would go, because we have to keep in mind Wladimir was fighting Chris Byrd. He doesn't have the punch to hurt him, and that's just awful. There is nothing Byrd does better than him, with the exception of duck punches.
The arsenal of punches Byrd was hit with reminded me of the Pre Sanders Wlad except the key difference this time...is he clinches a bit.
That's how Steward trained Lennox to protect himself and I must say....Steward and his new training influences are the best thing ever. At this point in time Wlad is fighting alot like Lennox did. Jabs, Nasty rights, and that little quick clinch.
I also agree with what Larry Merchant stated in there is nothing wrong with the way Wlad clinches. It's a fast grab, and he doesn't do it all that often.
I like the idea that he can do that against a guy that punches really hard, and he can stay on the outside landing the hard right hand. That's a frustrating style for anyone in the division to fight and it's only going to get better.
Credit Byrd for fighting like a man, putting his gaurd up and trying to wear WK out. It was a horror show, but he went out like a warrior, and even admitted it himself.
He's not on Wlad's level as a fighter, but he recieved a great payday and earned alot of respect.
All that stuff is great and I'm cool with Wlad's clinching against a Sam Peter.... When Wlad needs to clinch against Bryd, that just sucks.
Great job RWK.
Thanks.
My final thoughts go as follow. The fight was pretty much how I expected it would go, because we have to keep in mind Wladimir was fighting Chris Byrd. He doesn't have the punch to hurt him, and that's just awful. There is nothing Byrd does better than him, with the exception of duck punches.
The arsenal of punches Byrd was hit with reminded me of the Pre Sanders Wlad except the key difference this time...is he clinches a bit.
That's how Steward trained Lennox to protect himself and I must say....Steward and his new training influences are the best thing ever. At this point in time Wlad is fighting alot like Lennox did. Jabs, Nasty rights, and that little quick clinch.
I also agree with what Larry Merchant stated in there is nothing wrong with the way Wlad clinches. It's a fast grab, and he doesn't do it all that often.
I like the idea that he can do that against a guy that punches really hard, and he can stay on the outside landing the hard right hand. That's a frustrating style for anyone in the division to fight and it's only going to get better.
Credit Byrd for fighting like a man, putting his gaurd up and trying to wear WK out. It was a horror show, but he went out like a warrior, and even admitted it himself.
He's not on Wlad's level as a fighter, but he recieved a great payday and earned alot of respect.
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Great night for Wlad, and a great night for boxing. At least with Wlad the BS and very close decisions will be at a minimum. He usually wins or loses by KO. Byrd just kind of barely squeaked by in his fights.
As ive been saying, Byrd has been a shitty champion...
Great night for Wlad, and a great night for boxing. At least with Wlad the BS and very close decisions will be at a minimum. He usually wins or loses by KO. Byrd just kind of barely squeaked by in his fights.
....I always wanted to see Byrd fucked up like that since Ike. Wlad crushed him with no resistance. The king is back mother fuckers!!!!! You can all suck it!!!
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Wlad post fight quotes:
"Chris has tons of heart."
"Before I prove my chin, I'm going to try and knock my opponent out".
"Lets go for some other belts"
"I never lost my confidence despite what many think"
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