Brian "Biased" Kenny will call Gatti the real champ after Baldo fight

I know there is a difference. Brian Kenny doesn't. Brian Kenny thinks person with belt = best. He's a fucking caveman. That's the point of my thread. yeah but the title of the thread says Kenny will recognize Gatti as the champ...which is what should happen I think you got beef with Kenny for exposing Floyd for fighting losers on ESPN and forcing Floyd to counter with the always pitiful, "Well...YOU'VE NEVER BOXED BEFORE! So there!" Brian Kenny should have said, "Well...you've never COMMENTATED BEFORE!" because it's not like it matters one way or the other. Mayweather is the best fighter in the world, but he fights losers.

whats the big debate... bald beat judah if gatti beats bald hes the man ...even if mayweather beat him at 140 ...shit like that dosnt retroact as your progress through the divisions the same people screaming what gatti did to deserve a shot should be screaming what mayweather did to deserve a shot gatti beat a legit 147 pounder mayweather beat... mitchell

Judah was the undisputed champ at 147.Baldomir beat Judah making him the champ even if he doesn't have all three of the belts that Judah owned.If Gatti beats Baldomir it makes him the champ.Doesn't mean he's the best at 147 but still he would be the recognized champion.

I know there is a difference. Brian Kenny doesn't. Brian Kenny thinks person with belt = best. He's a fucking caveman. That's the point of my thread. I think Fly doesn't know the difference between being the best and being the champ. There IS a difference. Mayweather is the best, Baldomir is the champ. Be mad at Floyd for fighting Judah instead of Baldomir. Who would choose to fight the LOSER?! Says a lot about Mayweather and Gatti's mindsets if you ask me. Gatti wanted the winner, Mayweather wanted the loser.

I think Fly doesn't know the difference between being the best and being the champ. There IS a difference. Mayweather is the best, Baldomir is the champ. Be mad at Floyd for fighting Judah instead of Baldomir. Who would choose to fight the LOSER?! Says a lot about Mayweather and Gatti's mindsets if you ask me. Gatti wanted the winner, Mayweather wanted the loser.

Baldomir beat Judah and is now the man to beat at 147. He is the linear champ. I don't give a shit if Judah got the belt back because of bullshit sanctioning fees that Baldomir was unable to pay. Baldomir is the champion and until someone beats him (I don't think Gatti will) it's gonna stay that way. Obviously Mayweather will likely beat him but UNTIL he does, Baldomir is the champion. Man, by your logic Wladimir Klitschko should be the undisputed heavyweight champion since it's obvious he's better than the other titleholders at the moment. There is a reason we have these fights rather than just decide for ourselves who is the best and who deserves the title.

Why does he need to destroy Gatti AGAIN to be the man? That's the question. First of all, don't count your chickens before they hatch. Baldomir just beat Judah- he can certainly beat Gatti. This will probably be a war, and eventually the wars have to catch up with Gatti. We are going to see him get old instantly in the ring, and it could be against Baldomir. I'm actually amazed it hasn't happened yet. But the real reason for the confusion was Floyd fighting Judah instead of Baldomir. That was Floyd's choice. If he wants the real championship then he'll have to fight the winner of Gatti-Baldomir. THAT is why you don't make big showcase fights with losers if what you are going for is championships. Nobody to blame by Floyd.

Why does he need to destroy Gatti AGAIN to be the man? That's the question. I'm going to have to agree. Obviously Floyd is better than Gatti, and destroyed him in their fight, but if Judah was the Undisputed Welter champ, and Baldomir beat him, then Baldomir is the man right now. If Gatti beats Baldomir, like it or not, Gatti's the man. Then likely, Mayweather will destroy Gatti again, and then Mayweather will be the man.

1. Baldomir is the welterweight champion (because he beat Judah) 2. IfGatti beats Baldomir he will be welterweight champ 3. PBF is the best welterweight in the world (He comprehensively beat Judah and Gatti) I don't understand this debate. Champion and best are not always the same guy THANK YOU!!

You're confusing "belts" with "linear championships." They are vastly different. The lineage doesn't change because a champion lost to some guy a year or so before. If Gatti wins, he is the linear champion, and that is that. What you're proposing is pretty funny...if a fighter wins a championship and he's already lost to you, then that championship immediately becomes yours??? LOL Stop being silly, please. LOL, no joke. Does that mean Mayweather holds the WBC Lightweight title since he beat Corrales? If Mayweather goes back to 135, is he automatically the linear champion? Fly is so biased

No, that's not in dispute. Brian "Biased" Kenny equates belts and best fighter. That's not the case. With an idiot like Kenny, Floyd would need to beat Gatti again for him to call Floyd the best. Ring Magazine usually doesn't play that childish game. Having the belt doesn't always mean you're the best. You're confusing "belts" with "linear championships." They are vastly different. The lineage doesn't change because a champion lost to some guy a year or so before. If Gatti wins, he is the linear champion, and that is that. What you're proposing is pretty funny...if a fighter wins a championship and he's already lost to you, then that championship immediately becomes yours??? LOL Stop being silly, please.

1. Baldomir is the welterweight champion (because he beat Judah) 2. IfGatti beats Baldomir he will be welterweight champ 3. PBF is the best welterweight in the world (He comprehensively beat Judah and Gatti) I don't understand this debate. Champion and best are not always the same guy

LOL, what you just said that you place the belts higher than performance. Baldo beat Zab. Floyd beat Gatti and Zab. Baldo is going to lose to Baldy. You're praising Baldo to criticize Judah. It's so obvious. Someone apparently does not understand boxing and how championship lineages work. The reason for any confusion is because Mayweather went ahead with the Judah fight instead of fighting Baldomir. Baldomir chose Gatti because it meant more $$. Notice a common theme with any and all fighters that Floyd proposes a fight with? "They priced themselves out." Yeah, I'm suuuure they did. What you meant to say was that they didn't sign for peanuts. Baldomir is the champ at 147, period. If Gatti beats him, then he will be the champ. Floyd fought the LOSER and Gatti fought the WINNER. Wow, that's a tough concept, eh? ;)

Tito>DLH>Mosley>Forrest>Mayorga>Spinks>Judah>Baldomir what's the issue?

what the hell is your problem? it's not about the belts. Zab was the champ and Baldomir beat him. Baldomir is the recognized Undisputed Welterweight champion. you're biased as hell, man. Says the person with Baldomir in his avatar.

Baldomir is the linear champion, he beat the man who beat the man, and so on. If Gatti beats him, he could and should be the recognized champion. Mayweather cant even call himself a champ, he won a title that was "handed" back to the loser, after the winner did not pay the sanctioning fees. Sure Mayweather spanked him, but Maskaev spanked Rahman...does that make Maskaev the real heavyweight champ? You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BIGPOPPAPUMP again.

what the hell is your problem? it's not about the belts. Zab was the champ and Baldomir beat him. Baldomir is the recognized Undisputed Welterweight champion. you're biased as hell, man. I'm going to have to agree. Obviously Floyd is better than Gatti, and destroyed him in their fight, but if Judah was the Undisputed Welter champ, and Baldomir beat him, then Baldomir is the man right now. If Gatti beats Baldomir, like it or not, Gatti's the man. Then likely, Mayweather will destroy Gatti again, and then Mayweather will be the man.

when you use that as your argument, it means you've lost the argument at the same time tho, kenney is a baseball commentator trying to tell floyd hes not the real champ. its a weak argument either way

i dont know if he made floyd look stupid tho...i mean, if he did, then floyd make him look stupid also...calling him out that hes never fought before in his life when you use that as your argument, it means you've lost the argument

LOL, Brian Kenny never said anyone was better than Floyd. You're just mad he made Floyd look stupid on ESPN. i dont know if he made floyd look stupid tho...i mean, if he did, then floyd make him look stupid also...calling him out that hes never fought before in his life