i didn't see the peter and klitschko fight.

.....yes he does, that is because those bums are afraid of him and turn away because of their fear. If he ever fought real men like Jack Dempsey or Joe Louis, who can control their fear, he would not punch them in the back of the head. thats bullocks, ive seen several fights with peter and he allways rabbitpunch wheter his opponent turns his head ore not

Peter ALWAYS hits behind the head .....yes he does, that is because those bums are afraid of him and turn away because of their fear. If he ever fought real men like Jack Dempsey or Joe Louis, who can control their fear, he would not punch them in the back of the head.

sam peter is falling all over wladamir for half the damn fight, wlad tied him up because sam peter let him do it. its like teddy atlas says about unspoken bonds not to fight on the inside and to allow the tie up on the inside for a rest. sam peter let it happen.

Peter hit Klitschko behind the head for the same reason he hit Klitschko behind the head, they both turned away from the punch. The rules clearly state you must not turn your back on your opponent, and that includes the back of your head. If turning away from a punch was legal, then you could easily create a foul by just standing there and turning your head. Every time Peter hit Klitschko and Toney in the back of the head, it is Klitschko and Toney who should have been reprimanded. Peter ALWAYS hits behind the head

Peter should of had points deducted for (in the words of Wlad), "Getting blowjobs to the back of the head"

wlad's a big guy with long arms, its hard as hell to fight in close with long arms. so he couldnt fight on the inside, so wlad had to clinch or else peter would punish him. wlad clinched to survive. Klitschko stepped into the clinch almost every time. If you have enough room to step forward you have enough room to punch. That is not clinching it is holding, and Klitschko should have had a point deduction .

wlad's a big guy with long arms, its hard as hell to fight in close with long arms. so he couldnt fight on the inside, so wlad had to clinch or else peter would punish him. wlad clinched to survive.

agree, though I am not a big fan of it Even if you didn't like Wlad's "Clinching", what about Peter's constant hitting behind the head Peter hit Klitschko behind the head for the same reason he hit Klitschko behind the head, they both turned away from the punch. The rules clearly state you must not turn your back on your opponent, and that includes the back of your head. If turning away from a punch was legal, then you could easily create a foul by just standing there and turning your head. Every time Peter hit Klitschko and Toney in the back of the head, it is Klitschko and Toney who should have been reprimanded.

He did to Peter same thing that Lewis did to Mike Tyson. Thats what you have to do against a slugger, but his holding didn't make the fight boring or anything like Ruiz does. agree, though I am not a big fan of it Even if you didn't like Wlad's "Clinching", what about Peter's constant hitting behind the head

all that matters is that wladamir TKOs peter should they meet again

but how much did wladimir actually hold peter in that fight? i saw the chris byrd interview on this site and they were saying it was ridiculous of how much wladimir was holding. if this is wladimir's style then we might have a new ruiz on our hands. Yeah, he was holding alright. Luckily he did not have Jay Nady on patrol. What amazed me is that Klitschko was so inept at the hit and hold style. John Ruiz is clearly much better at it than Klitschko. Sam Peter does not know how to fight on the inside therefore Klitschko did not have to instigate clinches, but he did anyway. As a matter of fact Klitschko did even more unnecessary holding against Chris Byrd. Inasmuch as Byrd wasn't doing a damn thing other than blocking punches with his head, all Klitschko had to do was hit him. For some reason he used Byrd for holding practise!

Wlad and Peter wasn't that great a fight imo. Wlad did plenty of holding like Lennox Lewis did. Steward's training him now. Wlad won with a bit to spare. He won something like 9 rounds to 3 using the jab and the occasional right hand, left hook. Wlad was turning away and Peter was hitting him on the back of the head, only 1 true knockdown in my eyes. Wlad shook up Peter good in the last round. It was a big win, an important win for Wlad, just not that impressive.

If Peter has no stamina, how come he floored Klitschko and almost stopped him in the 10th round?

It was one of the easiest fights to score I've ever seen that still managed to be competitive. Peter can't box for shit, and Wlad is a master boxer. Therefore, Wlad wins 9 out of 12 rounds. Of course, Wlad has no chin so Peter drops him 3 times to make it look like a close fight. Peter won one other round because he had Klitschko stumbling around the ring like a drunk. Of course Peter has no stamina so he can't put Wlad away late. This fight was pathetic in that it revealed the weaknesses of both men and never showed anything positive from either guy. Wlad has no chin and Peter has no stamina.

he held way too much for me but how much did Wladimir actually hold Peter in that fight? i saw the chris byrd interview on this site and they were saying it was ridiculous of how much Wladimir was holding. if this is Wladimir's style then we might have a new ruiz on our hands. Wladdy holds in a different manner than Ruiz. For starters, Wladdy is now trained by Emanuel Steward, who has been coaching his tall fighters to tie up inside ever since the mid 1980s or earlier. Steward teaches his tall outside boxers to use their jab, stick and move, use their right hand, and tie up as soon as a shorter opponents gets close enough to land a big shot. Ruiz holds right after landing a shot, usually a jab. They both bend the rules quite a bit, but they hold in a different way. I was very disappointed that Wladdy wasn't quickly warned for excessive holding during the Peter fight. It would have made all the difference in the world. Sam Peter wasn't fast enough to catch Wladdy that often, maybe only 7 or 8 times per round, so if Wladdy held him every time Peter trapped him on the ropes, Sam Peter had to get lucky to win. This is the type of fight in which an active referee could have made a big difference. Will Wladdy hold much against Byrd? Not nearly as much as he did against Sam Peter. Byrd doesn't hit hard enough to scare Wladdy so he will only tie up inside a few times each round, maybe 3 or 4, instead of 7 to 10 times like against Peter.

He held less than Ruiz. Wlad wont need to hold Byrd. ....The only holding surrounding that fight will be the need for Chris's wife or Daddy to hold him after he gets KTFO.

he held every time he was hit .....but it was a smart move a lot like Lewis vs Tyson

but how much did wladimir actually hold peter in that fight? i saw the chris byrd interview on this site and they were saying it was ridiculous of how much wladimir was holding. if this is wladimir's style then we might have a new ruiz on our hands. well,,,he threw more than double the amount of punches as peter so he obviosly did more punching than he did holding

He did to Peter same thing that Lewis did to Mike Tyson. Thats what you have to do against a slugger, but his holding didn't make the fight boring or anything like Ruiz does.

but how much did wladimir actually hold peter in that fight? i saw the chris byrd interview on this site and they were saying it was ridiculous of how much wladimir was holding. if this is wladimir's style then we might have a new ruiz on our hands. He was holding a lot. Like pretty much whenever Peter got close. I don't think that Wlad needed to do that. Peter is a very limited fighter. Wlad could have controlled that fight from the outside with his jab. Peter knocked Wlad down with akward, clubbing punches. But I was very suprised that Wlad was not even given a warning for clinches.