Why dont Floyd get credit for moving up to 147

I'm not complaining about Judah as a choice of opponents, that doesn't bother me. I think it'll be a good fight. It's the bullshit belt that's on the line that pisses me off. If Floyd meets Baldomir, or his conqueror, than he will undoubtedly be the top dog at welter. But he's not until he wins the champ at the weight, that's it. makes for a good point .

Zab has been welter king for the majority of the last few years and this is only FLoyd 2nd fight at 147 and people are still bitching about his selection. At 147 Zab and Margito are the toughest guys. If Zab rematched Baldi, would u honestly favor Baldi?? Hell no. Give credit where its due. If he beats Judah thats very impressive IMO. Moving up in weight isnt always a walk in the park. Didnt Floyd start at 125 or 130. And its not like Floyd is the tallest guy or Floyd had trouble making those lower weights. Hell if he wanted he still could be fighting at 130, 135. If it was any other fighter moving up fighting champs and former undisputed champs people would be all over their ballsacks. Whoever says this sint Floyds biggest challenge is a moron I'm not complaining about Judah as a choice of opponents, that doesn't bother me. I think it'll be a good fight. It's the bullshit belt that's on the line that pisses me off. If Floyd meets Baldomir, or his conqueror, than he will undoubtedly be the top dog at welter. But he's not until he wins the champ at the weight, that's it.

he gets credited for everything else he does so good, so i think he 'll be ok if this gets credited out. dont worry. he's still "pretty boy" floyd. :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

Cotto :boxing: Arum isn't stupid enough to put Cotto in with Floyd right now.

who, mosley 20 pounds above his original weight or a not p4p ranked tito....???? listen, floyd contacted hattons camp and asked when hatton would be ready to fight. hattons camp said no earlier than 2007, which is why floyd vacated his belt at 140. ricky doesnt want to fight floyd right now, or else he would be doing it...notice how floyd is calling hatton out, not hatton isnt responding or calling floyd out The fight w/ Mosley was not 20 pounds above his orginal weight it was more like 6 or 7 pounds. And I count TWO wins over Mosley and win over Trinidad who was in the p4p ranks throughout his career and on his way back until Winky steam rolled him in a shut out win na d through in a win over Soliman and i think that gets you the #1 spot. Add to the fact he is fighting Taylor, he wants and is getting the fights that he should be fighting As for Manny, he MAB and Morlaes and is looking to fight Larios Vasquez and a rubber match w/ El Terrible. Look at PBF he beat Henry Brussels, Arturo Gatti and a washed up shell of his former self Shambra Mitchell. That makes you #1??? Absolutely not, there were plenty of fighters at 140 that PBF could have fought while waiting on the Hatton fight. Im sure Junior Witter would want the fight, then Cotto, how bout Harris or Tszyu? But PBF doesnt do that he cherry picks opponets and then becomes the champ by saying hes the champ, that doesnt work in my book, Im not buying the Bullshit hes selling. And you brought up the Gatti fight w/ PBF. That fight actually made me respect PBF as a fighter more b/c he dismantled my boy. But I do not respect him as true champ of anything yet b/c he is not, and it is frustrating b/c he DOES have the skills And for the record I am not discrediting the Judah fight, I like it, it is not PBF fault that Zab took the nite off against Baldy and discredited the fight for being for the weleterweight championship that fight will be on July 22 in Atlantic City when Gatti faces the 147 champ Baldomir

i am not trying to say that floyd isnt awesome, but what i am saying is that a fight with zab which i think he intentionally pursued rather than a fight with someone like hatton, margarito, or even cotto (who floyd would brutalize) is a little iffy. and the fact that after zab lost to baldy floyd still wants the fight. it reminds me of wwf. why wouldnt floyd just go balls out for the title against baldy? now we get to see gatti and baldy and then what another gatti beating? please. floyd is just becaoming notorious for making fights that i, personally dont want to see.

the thread is about mayweather, i was responding to the question about him. not pac, morales, raheem, hatton, or cotto. floyd deserves all the criticism he gets until he goes out there and fights real fights rather than phony ones like zab. So in other words, NO?

So, then the same would hold true for Pac when he fought Morales after Raheem owned him correct? It's funny that you neglect to mention the fact that Hatton and Cotto aren't willing to fight him yet. the thread is about mayweather, i was responding to the question about him. not pac, morales, raheem, hatton, or cotto. floyd deserves all the criticism he gets until he goes out there and fights real fights rather than phony ones like zab.

because he went to 147 because he knew he could own zab easier than the guys that were at 140. the fact that he is still fighting zab discredits floyd a little imo. So, then the same would hold true for Pac when he fought Morales after Raheem owned him correct? It's funny that you neglect to mention the fact that Hatton and Cotto aren't willing to fight him yet.

He skipped a tough divison by moving to an entire new weight class. lol, I'd say that evens out. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

because he went to 147 because he knew he could own zab easier than the guys that were at 140. the fact that he is still fighting zab discredits floyd a little imo.

who, mosley 20 pounds above his original weight or a not p4p ranked tito....???? listen, floyd contacted hattons camp and asked when hatton would be ready to fight. hattons camp said no earlier than 2007, which is why floyd vacated his belt at 140. ricky doesnt want to fight floyd right now, or else he would be doing it...notice how floyd is calling hatton out, not hatton isnt responding or calling floyd out Don't even waste your breath, he's stuck on stupid.

Why dont Floyd get credit for moving up to 147 because you said "dont"

I understand your a fan but the fact is Floyd says he will fight anybody all the time so when he said he told Hatton to fight hes probably not lying its just not realistic especially when Floyd jumped to 147, when Hatton is the champ at 140. PBF is just blazing his own trail and picking up paper titles on his way. In the mean time Winky Wright and Manny P have had better and more recent wins over ppl who are actually in the p4p rankings that way in my opinion 1. would be Winky, 2. would be Manny, 3 would be PBF. And im knocking his ability the kids got skills, I just want him to fight somebody and having floyd so low on ur p4p list has NOTHING to do with his obliterating gatti, does it?

The reason is he is cherry picking his fights like RJJ did, he skipped 140 w/ Hatton and Cotto. And remeber I told you he'd do this almost a year ago on this very board, hed skip over all these guys and eventually for money hed go after Zab. If wants to be considered the best?? Beat Margarito, Hatton, Tszyu, and since he talk a lot of shit on WInky beat him too, and while your up at 154 beat Ouma while ur at it. But I would consider him the best if beats the first 3 i mentioned by this time next year jesus you are a tough critic. Im not really a floyd fan but I appreciate his skill. Hatton and Cotto also appreciate that very skill since NEITHER of them are willing to fight him yet. The only fights out there for him are zab and margarito at this weight. Margarito is a no money fight for now until he beats a top 5 fighter in that division. Zab is a draw and style wise this is a very interesting fight. Cut him some slack

I understand your a fan but the fact is Floyd says he will fight anybody all the time so when he said he told Hatton to fight hes probably not lying its just not realistic especially when Floyd jumped to 147, when Hatton is the champ at 140. PBF is just blazing his own trail and picking up paper titles on his way. In the mean time Winky Wright and Manny P have had better and more recent wins over ppl who are actually in the p4p rankings that way in my opinion 1. would be Winky, 2. would be Manny, 3 would be PBF. And im knocking his ability the kids got skills, I just want him to fight somebody who, mosley 20 pounds above his original weight or a not p4p ranked tito....???? listen, floyd contacted hattons camp and asked when hatton would be ready to fight. hattons camp said no earlier than 2007, which is why floyd vacated his belt at 140. ricky doesnt want to fight floyd right now, or else he would be doing it...notice how floyd is calling hatton out, not hatton isnt responding or calling floyd out

because hatton and cotto were itching to fight floyd. cotto is still fighting hand picked opponents and hatton SAID he doesnt want to fight floyd until 2007! zoo hasnt been fighting, either I understand your a fan but the fact is Floyd says he will fight anybody all the time so when he said he told Hatton to fight hes probably not lying its just not realistic especially when Floyd jumped to 147, when Hatton is the champ at 140. PBF is just blazing his own trail and picking up paper titles on his way. In the mean time Winky Wright and Manny P have had better and more recent wins over ppl who are actually in the p4p rankings that way in my opinion 1. would be Winky, 2. would be Manny, 3 would be PBF. And im knocking his ability the kids got skills, I just want him to fight somebody

Exactly, he leapfrogged a very tough division. Floyd has two opponents that any boxing fan would cum on their wifes face to see. 1)Ricky Hatton 2)Antonio Margarito If these fights get signed then there are a lot of women out there that better look out! I dont care too much about floyd vs tony, but floyd vs hatton... I am drooling

He jumped over the 140 pound division. Exactly, he leapfrogged a very tough division. Floyd has two opponents that any boxing fan would cum on their wifes face to see. 1)Ricky Hatton 2)Antonio Margarito If these fights get signed then there are a lot of women out there that better look out!

Because Judah sucks. This is a lose-lose for Mayweather unless he KO's Judah in the first round will you please shut up and stop hating for once! what happened to judah ko??? its not like zab isnt one of the top 3 welter's right now :rolleyes: