Anyone who really believes that RAHMAN chased Vitali into retirement needs to face the facts and admit they're a hater.
are you kidding!?!?
after Rahman's stellar heavy-handed explosive performances against his two previous opponents??
;) LOL
Anyone who really believes that RAHMAN chased Vitali into retirement needs to face the facts and admit they're a hater.
Agreed completely...VK being scared of Rock...I just dont see how.
I want to see Rock vs. wlad...I think it is a good fight for Wlad...I dont think rock can take the type of punishment he needs to to tire Wlad out and finish him.
This is a HW scrap that is almost guaranteed to not go the distance!
Wlad gives you the best bang for your buck in the HW division with Brewster coming in a close second.
Wlad is either gonna fuck you up or you are gonna fuck him up.
Who really cares about this fight?
The way Byrd looked against that bum TOS, Wlad would beat him with his right hand tied behind his back.
At least we will get rid of Byrd.
I am not a Wlad fan but at least he isn't a bitch and fights EVERYONE unlike his brother.
The fight I look forward to the most is Wladimir-Rahman where he can shut up all the haters who thought Rahman chased Vitali out of the division.
Boxing is a chess game.
A jab is a pawn, and Rahman likes to advance pawns untill he breaches defense. Once breached he'll bring out the queen being his right hand. Wlad plays chess in every fight. Advancing pawns leaves squares open, and the fork between knight and queen is Wlad's right hand. He'll get caught reaching and checkmate.
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yes wlad was the mandatory for the WBO, but Brewster fought his mandatory already and was not going to fight Wlad for an OPTIONAL DEFENSE which is what Lyakovich is, an optional defense, which mean that BREWSTER CHOSE HIM. he couldve chosen wlad and he didnt and said it was because wlad has not "earned it" Wlad would have had to wait close to a year for the WBO to enforce Brewsters mandatory defense against the #1 contender.
you can accept this or you can keep arguing this point without looking at the facts
i see your point. the funny thing is that years back i heard all this hype about wlad and never saw him fight, i finally got my chance to see him fight for the first time and unfortunately that was against corrie sanders!! anyway, if wlad is to return to his pre-sanders form i think he MUST fight brewster again. Im a huge Peter fan and with a real trainer i think he can be the man, but he is amateurish at times. oh, the knockdown in the 11th was actually a legal shot. the other two were on the back of the head though
Wlad definitely needs to fight Brewster again, to clear that whole mess up. That right there is a no excuses fight and what was meant to be will be.
Points taken....and I think Peter is the man. He's got a bright future ahead of him.
You should check out Wlad's fights against Mercer, Barrett, Schulz, and Shufford if you can find them. I had them all...but formatted my drive and lost virtually everything.
Remember when the site had the badass torrent section? That was awesome....I wish we still had it.
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he could still get rocked just right and be KO'd, but so could any HW fighter..
what's important is that he's picking up the needed skills each fight or at least learning from them.. a chin usually only gets you but so far, he'll need better bobbin n weavin and/or learn how to get ahold of the other fighter when he does get rocked, not just stand there with his arms flailing about to get rocked again :p
I am confident in a big way in Wladimir not only beating Byrd but conquering the rest of the division. I think he learned a lot about himself in that fight with Peter and will be a much better fighter because of it.
Expect Byrd to be a blowout. I respect the guy as a fighter. and a genuinely nice human being, but he can't stand up to Wladimir at his best.
The fight I look forward to the most is Wladimir-Rahman where he can shut up all the haters who thought Rahman chased Vitali out of the division.
Toney will be anti-climatic because I really can't see him winning. Byrd has a better chance than Toney to be perfectly frank.
The biggest threats on the horizon are rematches with Samuel Peter and Lamon Brewster. Both of these fights are controversial (the rabbit punches thrown by Peter responsible for two of the knockdowns/ the mysterious circumstances surrounding the Brewster fight) and I believe Wlad has it in him to even the score but it won't be easy.
excellent strategy by manny, and credit to wlad for executing the best he could, but manny can't save him everytime
Back to square 1.
Wlad just faced a big puncher and survived...making him look amateurish in the process. He went down because of illegal punches to the back of the head...and that's clear as day.
He could theoretically fight and beat nothing but "big punchers" for the rest of his career...getting knocked down in the process...and someone will always find a problem.
The W.B.O. belt is absolutely worthless and is generally recognized as the weakest of the four major belts. Wlad has a chance to fight the guy generally regarded by expert boxing critics as the best heavyweight....Chris Byrd. He's the longest reigning title holder end of story.
Wlad did something he never has done in the past in his last fight....which is survive adversity. He was put in a big trap eating rabbit punches while Peter was stalking...and survived to put Peter on queer street in the final round. If he would have finished Peter...I don't even think we would be having this discussion.
Sure Manny can't save him every time. But like George Foreman said....him getting up after facing that adversity is a cure. I'd only have to wait and see what the future brings. I just think he's making huge steps to being his old self.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
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wishful thinking my friend, Wlad was the top contender in both the ibf and wbo, and who is he fighting? oh yeah he chose to fight byrd. hmmmmmm..... I wonder why???? he tasted the canvas 3 times against peter and almost bought it in the 11th round. what a masterclass that was. he was and is a mental midget, that will never change
Sigh.
Brewster just fought Krasniqui...and planned to fight Lycahovic so what's your point?
Wlad will have the IBF and IBO belts and will eventually rematch Brewster. That's if Lamon gets past Lycahovic. LOL.
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there is no way to explain odds plummeting that much before a fight without funny business
No there is not. I literally laugh out loud at how blatant that kind of drop in odds is. We'll more than likely never see anything like it.
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I find it too big a coincidence the odds plummeted from 11:1 to 4:1 right before the fight, as well as Wlad having an abnormally high blood sugar level after the fight. What about the guy they caught sneaking into the dressing room?
ive never seen odds drop anywhere near that much in all the time ive been betting on boxing. maybe the closest i have seen is a fight that goes from 6-1 down to 4-1 and even that happened over the course of two weeks. there is no way to explain odds plummeting that much before a fight without funny business
I think it is ok; fine may be not thr right word. Sam Peter would have knocked down with his powerfull rabbit punches.
obviously Im a wlad fan..but have to disagree with his chin being ok. it clearly isnt. he shouldnt have gone down from those shots from peter and he also shouldnt have gone down from williamson and so easily from corrie sanders. his chin is below avrage but he does have enough natural boxing skills and power to become champ again and unify but it will continue to be a nerve racking thing watching him against a good puncher and all the top guys do have a good punchers chance against him,,but I would make him a favorite against anyone in the division right now as long as he fights cautiosly as he did against peter and doesnt blow his wad again
I hate to disagree but his chin isnt fine. It's not as weak as everyone says, but it is not FINE, its on the weak side.
I think it is ok; fine may not be the right word. Sam Peter would have knocked down ANYONE with his powerfull rabbit punches.
Wlad should take Byrd very seriously. Only then he can win.
Other than good training, Wlad has nothing else to worry. He has tested his chin in his figth with Peter, and his chin is fine. All he needs now is to be as careful and smart as his brother was.
If Wlad loses this fight, it will be the most embarrassing loss I've ever seen. There is virtually NO WAY Wlad can lose. If he still finds a way to lose, I will say he's the biggest choke artist in boxing history.
Do you really discredit Chris Byrd that much?
Wlad chose Byrd......the easier way out.So Brewster moves on RWK.I never took you for a Wlad defender........ :D
wrong,,,,byrd chose wlad and brewster and king continue to take the easy road by avoiding tops dogs like wlad and fighting bums,,,so the one dimensional brewster can hold onto his belt a little while longer
Wlad was mandatory, that was not Brewster's decision. Don't get what you mean there. :)
Maybe Klitschko had a panic attack ... I don't know. Were Golota and Krasniqi drugged, too? I mean they couldn't take the left hooks, either.
after seeing the 248 lb golota and krasnigui get floored and almost put through the mat with the left hook,,,in retrospect Im actually pretty impressed that wlad stayed on his feet and this was a totally gassed wlad at that point. and that left hook was just as clean as the ones taken by krasniqui and golota