why do people think RJJ is a bum?

Ahhh... http://ganjataz.com/general-bollocks/images/by-GT/forum-shitz/pot-kettle-black.jpg Same old double standard from you, you're just about the biggest spammer on the site now. How about that opinion? Where's Flyy, I don't see him holding your hand lol Maybe he'll PM me again, or hit me with the red since you only pull out the big guns for me lol

Your spamming is worse than Anorak was. Ahhh... http://ganjataz.com/general-bollocks/images/by-GT/forum-shitz/pot-kettle-black.jpg

is that Roy's fault? Not if my man had some balls he would have come over here in the first place to try and get some big money fights to work up to Roy. you cant just sit on the other side of the world and say that you can kick Roy's ass and than not come over here and do it. thats BS. The champ does not have to go to anyone. if Roy was calling JC out now to come to America to fight you would be saying the samething i am. so please dont give me that crap. the champ dont go to nobody you have to come to the champ.

how many threads about boxers from great britan have you created, max?

Calzaghe had no money to make by fighting Jones outside of Wales, and Calzaghe is scared of flying. hahahahahahahahaha so joe calls out the champion under the conditions he gets the bigger chunk of money and roy flies to his hometown... i think its pretty clear who didnt want to fight who here

are you being serious? he clearly won that fight, probably by four or five rounds i forget how i scored it, id have to watch the fight again, but he convincingly won that fight it seemed close at first glance, but for me, the more times i see it, the more roy won by

To fight somebody worth a damn, you fool. People want to see the best against the best, not the best against the worst. As for 'unaccomplished and yet to beat a list of credible contenders in his own division', well I suppose the Eubank, Brewer and Mitchell fights didn't happen then? He beat five former world champions, cleaned out the division of those who had the balls to face him, and looked damn good doing so. Reid, Starie, Sheika, Woodhall, Veit - all very good fighters (unless your Bozo No No, ofcourse). Admittedly the Reid and Starie performances were poor, due to a hand injury. But the Sheika, Woodhall and Veit performances were nothing short of brilliant. You are outright delusional about what Calzaghe's status was back then. It's useless to try and talk to you about it, because your mind is in a different state of reality. He hadn't unified a major title, hadn't beaten a great opponent, and had no overall acclaim to be calling people to come and fight him in his backyard, especially elite fighters outside of the division he was in that contained contenders he hadn't even fought. You are completley biased, and outright delusional. And I've told you several times to stop sending me private messages to discuss what's being discussed here. I have deleted them without reading them because I'm speaking to you here. There's no need to be pointing out your deluded non sense in two seperate places.

People think that RJJ is a bum probably because he lost to two people that he was chose to beat including a journeymen.

Lets take a look at his good/great wins for his career Owned tarver in the first fight owned john ruiz TKO clinton woods in 6 KO'd glen kelly in 7 owned Juilo gonzalez TKO derrick harmon in 11 TKO eric harding in 10 TKO richard hall in 11 owned david telesco owned reggie johnson TKO otis grant in 11 owned lou del valle KO'd virgil hill in 4!! smashed montell griffin in 1 round avenging that stupid DQ loss owned mike mccallum TKO merqui sosa in 2 TKO tony thornton in 3 TKO vinny pazienza in 6 First person to beat james toney and he owned him beat B-hop by UD WOW what a record, of all those people he beat, how many are hall of famers? at least 3, and how many of those guys are champions now or still top contenders!! and juyjuy who cares if he didnt fight any brits that were old i dont only u, and who cares if his amatuer record wasnt perfect u dont judge people by amatuer records and its pointless to bring it up to the RJJ haters U MUST'VE FORGOT, RJJ top 10 middle of all time, the best super middle of all time, top 10 light heavy of all time, a true legend are you being serious?

rjj is not a bum, but he is a big stinky doo doo head.

than he JC wanted Roy so bad he would have stepped up to Roy and fought him. My thing is why if Roy has the titles should he give them up so fight overseas where he was onced robbed. why not JC come to Roy. Roy said in a recent interview that he is willing to go over there this time bc he has no titles to lose if it goes to a decision. but as for JC years ago wanting to fight Roy JC should have grown some balls and came over here to fight. why not?? come on now. you come to the champ the champ dont come to you. come on now.

Hey Flyy, you PMing me because I called Bozo on his trolling? If it's about Bozo, fuck that bitch, let her take care of herself lol That bitch doesn't do shit but make fucking GIFs and troll 24 hours a day, bitch. That faggot never intended to post an opinion or anything reasonable when he saw the thread, he just saw who made it and decided to post a bunch of personal attacks on whoever was posting in the thread, that's some coward ass shit from a coward . And I hope you quote me so that lipstick wearing bitch has to read it too, so both of you can put me on double ignore lol

Jones is not a bum, but he is overrated. Also the Jones nut-huggers are as bad as any nut-hugger I've ever seen. :eek: hmm this coming from the same guy who said toney would beat ali?? hahahahahhahahhhahahah

if he was the best SM in the world. why didnt he fite benn eubank? calzaghe? collins? explain? when joe was champ roy was a weight class above him. eubank said himself that he wouldnt fight roy unless roy was a mandatory for his belt. benn, in an article, said roy was too good even for him. also u have to realize that just like eubank, benn and collins didnt want to go to the us to fight, roy didnt want to go to england or scotland to fight. add in ego's and money and youll realize its logiclly impossible

No one buys it? Okay, that's why so many people actually write about how Jones is a fraud, etc. Obsessive hate for Jones? Lol! That coming from You?? Crazy. Anybody can see that you need help, I'm not saying that in a nasty way but your genuine obsessive hatred for Joe Calzaghe is quite over the top and we can all see that. I give my honest opinion on Jones, which is unbiased, and contains truths. He is grossly over-rated. Bozo is using logic & making sense. You are just a drunk, biased, obsessed lunatic.

You're biased, ignorant, and delusional. A few years back, Jones was at 175. Why would he pay any mind to a sheltered fighter with no major title who never beat anyone worth a damn a weight class below him? Hopkins was set to break the middleweight defense record. Why would he move to 168 and go to the backyard of an unacomplished sheltered fighter who had yet to beat a list of credible contenders in his own division? Nothing you're trying so badly to say has any truth or sense to it. You keep dancing around the fact that there's a LIST of fighters that Calzaghe DIDN'T fight, and somehow, it's EVERYBODY's fault BUT Calzaghe that didn't happen. The guy was a bordeline NOBODY years back. He had no marquee wins, and didn't even have one of the major 3 titles in his own division. Get out of here. You're full of shit. I thought the thread read "Why do some think RJJ is a bum?" Why not answer the fucking question, or stay out of the thread if you don't have one. I posted my opinion as to why some people don't give him his due, what's yours, troll?

There is no comparison between Jones and Calzaghe in the sense that Jones managed to avoid so many top fighters and Calzaghe was avoided by Jones and Hopkins. If you want to believe otherwise then so be it, your the fool. You're biased, ignorant, and delusional. A few years back, Jones was at 175. Why would he pay any mind to a sheltered fighter with no major title who never beat anyone worth a damn a weight class below him? Hopkins was set to break the middleweight defense record. Why would he move to 168 and go to the backyard of an unacomplished sheltered fighter who had yet to beat a list of credible contenders in his own division? Nothing you're trying so badly to say has any truth or sense to it. You keep dancing around the fact that there's a LIST of fighters that Calzaghe DIDN'T fight, and somehow, it's EVERYBODY's fault BUT Calzaghe that didn't happen. The guy was a bordeline NOBODY years back. He had no marquee wins, and didn't even have one of the major 3 titles in his own division. Get out of here. You're full of shit.

Uhh, where do I start? It's common knowledge that a lot of people believe Jones is a fraud and bash him for avoiding so many top fighters. A lot of people? You continue to let your true biased feelings slip through. As I told you in response to the messages you keep sending me, the point is that you have literally spent hundreds of hours and thousands of words hating on and critisizing Jones. That kind of wounded insecuruty driven behaviour speaks for itself. You were BANNED from this site, and the mods posted about your unhealthy and silly mission of hating on Jones, and told you to get help. I bring up Calzaghe everytime you hate on Jones, because everything you try to accuse Jones of, Calzahge is guilty of tenfold, and he's a fraction of the fighter. You really need to find something better to do. NO ONE buys the non sense you're selling.

As for Benn and Eubank, I'm sure neither of them couldn't give a toss what Bozo No No thinks of them or how they are compared to Roy Jones. They achieved far more than Roy Jones in a celebrity senseDon't want to burst your bubble but over here Big Ben has more star power than Nigel Benn. And the only way Chris Eubank gets stopped for an autograph is if he's mistaken for Chris Rock. Sorry. :o

How do I hate Jones? You look to discredit him with pointed spitfull and loaded non sense at every given opportunity. Your word count on the subject alone speaks for itself. And then we have the comments made about you by the mods when you were banned about how your delusional and unwarrented bashing of Jones was so extreme you should seek help. You never answere me. Can you name ONE person who buys the BS you're selling? Just one?