Will people get off Toneys Nuts now??

I don't think too highly of him. I thought he dropped that decision to Skelton. Apparently there is a growing concensus among many others...including Limeys who feel a rematch is needed between the two. I'll be quite honest, after watching the fight I'd say it was closer than I expected....but I gave the slight nod to Williams, basically because of his boxing rallies. Close fight, controversial outcome, they should do it again. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

I just think he's the guy people tend to overlook in this extremely shallow division. I don't think too highly of him. I thought he dropped that decision to Skelton.

Williams would have a shot because he carries a good punch and can walk though some fire.. but, he's got too much of a Golota syndrome where he's a giant mental question mark. The guy can show up to a fight like a lion, or puke after a weigh in and cancel a fight. Yeah that's a mental game. He's a likeable guy with some serious issues. But he does have some goods: It's a proverbial gamble with him. I just think he's the guy people tend to overlook in this extremely shallow division. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Well yeah, but his chin is not glass. The punches Tyson hit him with were nothing to sneeze at, Vitali loaded up on him for a while granted he staggered him and eventually ended up finishing him...but if you noticed. Williams still had the wits to throw huge right hands after taking a beating....and that's scary. People can question his last victory over Skelton....but the guy is really fighting at the top tier level as of late and is a force to be reckoned with. Williams would have a shot because he carries a good punch and can walk though some fire.. but, he's got too much of a Golota syndrome where he's a giant mental question mark. The guy can show up to a fight like a lion, or puke after a weigh in and cancel a fight.

Williams, Brewster, and to a lesser degree a rematch with Samuel Peter are the biggest threats to Wlad. Depending on how he develops, Ibragimov may also be a dangerous opponent judging by how he punches to the body. Rahman would be a very easy victory judging by what I saw last night. He looked very stiff and uncomfortable early on versus Toney, and at all times he was there to be hit. I do not see Rahman as a threat, stylistically, at all.

Danny Williams cannot take a good punch, its just that he has a HUGE heart. Well yeah, but his chin is not glass. The punches Tyson hit him with were nothing to sneeze at, Vitali loaded up on him for a while granted he staggered him and eventually ended up finishing him...but if you noticed. Williams still had the wits to throw huge right hands after taking a beating....and that's scary. People can question his last victory over Skelton....but the guy is really fighting at the top tier level as of late and is a force to be reckoned with. If he comes prepared to fight....everyone needs to look out. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

I'm no big fan of Wladimir Klitschko, but even I know he would blow Toney out. All Wlad has to do is jab Toney to death to win. Rahman has a shot to beat Wlad, but based off Rahman's last two performances I would give Wlad a decent edge to win. I think granted Wladimir wins the fight with Byrd....there are a couple of guys who pose major threats to him. Danny Williams and Lamon Brewster. Williams can take a huge punch....and could remain in the fight making it extremely dangerous. Brewster....well. We saw what happened there. I'd also go so far as to say those three are top tier heavyweights in my opinion. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

I'm no big fan of Wladimir Klitschko, but even I know he would blow Toney out. All Wlad has to do is jab Toney to death to win. Rahman has a shot to beat Wlad, but based off Rahman's last two performances I would give Wlad a decent edge to win.

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pbf34, who the hell is making excuses? you can read, right? bozo, tko, not KO. there is a difference. the difference is not being ktfo to the point where you're unconscious or can't beat the ten count. this has never happened to my boy wlad. yeah, he has suffered through some dissapointing setbacks, but who hasn't? me, i don't buy the glass chin hype though. i think that is way overrated when talking about wladimir. mainly due to either ignorance or hatred. most likely, it's more of an issue of being caught off balance(having the huge frame he has) or not used to being in the defensive position.

Care to make a bet if these fights ever happen? Even though we would have a long way to go. the whole point of the draw was so that the winner wouldnt have to fight wlad and lose don kings belt

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some of us boxing fans realize that hasim rahman is washed up and that drawing with him is a bad thing. wlad has won 3 in a row about to be 4 if he fought john ruiz, evander holyfield, rydell booker, and dom guinn hed have 8 consecutive wins however you have to say hes lost 2 of 7 cause you have to go back 7 fights to get 2 losses. what were the results of toneys last 2 fights???? hmmmm, a NC and a draw, id say wlad has been the much better fighter the last 2 years and id say that toney is getting worse before better. its a notorious clown who cant see that. The point is, when Wlad lost those fights by KO, which were difinitive and in one case embarassing, there was no talk from you clowns about Wlad being finished, nor did the nut hugging stop. Toney hasn't lost in 9 years, and after a draw we see idiots like you jumping to do a happy dance like this draw is some how equal to or worse than Wlad's two brutal losses by stoppage. Toney's going to be retired soon, and will do so with an easy entrance to the Hall of Fame. It stands to reason Wlad will fight for a lot longer, but his chin is glass, and he's not going to run undefeated for years. He's succeptable of being beaten by anyone who carreis a big punch. The next time he's waxed, I'll be sure to remind you of the criteria of writing someone off.

bozo, you have to understand something about that sanders/w klitschko fight. wlad had basically thought corrie was a push-over and had barely trained for that fight. wk was certainly not in the right state of mind either with some girl troubles or some shit like that. it's not different than lennox lewis fans saying how ll wasn't really preparing for his first fight with rahman. also, there has never been any talk about excuses related to that fight with corrie sanders. maybe from SOME of the fans, but the circumstances mentioned above, i believe, are outlined in klitschko's book. wk basically said he made a mistake a basic mistake of not thoroughly preparing - it happens. it just so happened that he learned it the hard way. no excuses wlad lost wlad has yet to look overly impressive in his last 7 fights

ok bozo, i gotcha. but, i have to say i feel that a draw was a very generous gift for toney. in my opinion, a major gift. but at least we know that toney wants to try to make an impact on the division, unlike roy jones who had one fight and skipped. carry on.

You're missing the point. Several Klitschko nut huggers are jumping for joy over Toney fighting to a draw with Rahman, speaking like it somehow discredits him. By that logic, Wlad getting stopped LOSING two of his last 7 fights, in paticular a stoppage loss to a fringe contender, wrote him off a long time ago. I'm not suggesting it's right to write anyone off, just pointing out the spitefull and deluded irony coming from some of these notorious clowns. some of us boxing fans realize that hasim rahman is washed up and that drawing with him is a bad thing. wlad has won 3 in a row about to be 4 if he fought john ruiz, evander holyfield, rydell booker, and dom guinn hed have 8 consecutive wins however you have to say hes lost 2 of 7 cause you have to go back 7 fights to get 2 losses. what were the results of toneys last 2 fights???? hmmmm, a NC and a draw, id say wlad has been the much better fighter the last 2 years and id say that toney is getting worse before better. its a notorious clown who cant see that.

bozo, you have to understand something about that sanders/w klitschko fight. wlad had basically thought corrie was a push-over and had barely trained for that fight. wk was certainly not in the right state of mind either with some girl troubles or some shit like that. it's not different than lennox lewis fans saying how ll wasn't really preparing for his first fight with rahman. also, there has never been any talk about excuses related to that fight with corrie sanders. maybe from SOME of the fans, but the circumstances mentioned above, i believe, are outlined in klitschko's book. wk basically said he made a mistake a basic mistake of not thoroughly preparing - it happens. it just so happened that he learned it the hard way. he also doesent realize that wlad klitschko was 26, poorly coached and inexperienced when he lost, james toney is 37, a seasoned vet, and obviously on the downslide. i guess thats kinda hard to understand.

bozo, you have to understand something about that sanders/w klitschko fight. wlad had basically thought corrie was a push-over and had barely trained for that fight. wk was certainly not in the right state of mind either with some girl troubles or some shit like that. it's not different than lennox lewis fans saying how ll wasn't really preparing for his first fight with rahman. also, there has never been any talk about excuses related to that fight with corrie sanders. maybe from SOME of the fans, but the circumstances mentioned above, i believe, are outlined in klitschko's book. wk basically said he made a mistake a basic mistake of not thoroughly preparing - it happens. it just so happened that he learned it the hard way. You're missing the point. Several Klitschko nut huggers are jumping for joy over Toney fighting to a draw with Rahman, speaking like it somehow discredits him. By that logic, Wlad getting stopped LOSING two of his last 7 fights, in paticular a stoppage loss to a fringe contender, wrote him off a long time ago. I'm not suggesting it's right to write anyone off, just pointing out the spitefull and deluded irony coming from some of these notorious clowns.

bozo, you have to understand something about that sanders/w klitschko fight. wlad had basically thought corrie was a push-over and had barely trained for that fight. wk was certainly not in the right state of mind either with some girl troubles or some shit like that. it's not different than lennox lewis fans saying how ll wasn't really preparing for his first fight with rahman. also, there has never been any talk about excuses related to that fight with corrie sanders. maybe from SOME of the fans, but the circumstances mentioned above, i believe, are outlined in klitschko's book. wk basically said he made a mistake a basic mistake of not thoroughly preparing - it happens. it just so happened that he learned it the hard way.

actually this just proves how delsuional you are, thanks rahman, a fighter known for his big right hand who pushes toney around without it corrie sanders - left handed you retard making fun of wlad for losing to a left handed guy without getting hit by a good right, you have to be the dumbest person on this forum. oh yeah, by the way, in case you forgot, corrie sanders is left handed. if wlad would have gotten knocked around by nothing but sanders jab maybe you would have an argument, since thats what happened to your boy toney last night. It's got nothing to do with who throws with which hand. It's you, a notirious nut hugger, commenting on nut hugging in the 1st place, speaking like a draw discredits Toney, when Wlad's been down 9 times in his last 7 fights, stopped twice. If a draw agaisnt Rahman writes Toney off, what should a KO loss agaisnt Sanders have done to Wlad? You're talking directly out of your ass, and haven't thought about how much irony is dripping from everything you've said.