Toney/Rahman PBP

does anyone acknowledge the fact that toney landed almost every punch he threw! if he was a real heavy-weight ( power wise) he would have knocked rahman in the 2nd! Yeah, but that's kinda the point. He landed the more clean shots, but Rahman walked right through them. Tony did great bodywork, digging punches under the ribs. Rahman still had enough energy to outpunch Toney through the last few rounds. I think Rahman won nearly as much for what Toney couldn't do as for what he did himself. At the end of the night what we all should have learned is this: Toney is an entertaining fighter who defies most people's expectations by being able to make it through 12 rounds as a fat man. He somehow still manages to be just as hard to hit cleanly as he was as a middleweight, and can still pinpoint countershots better than almost anyone in the history of televised boxing. His problem is that, approaching 240 lbs, he lacks the energy to maintain enough of an offense to wear opponents down. His pop wasn't devastating at the lower weight classes, and is even less remarkable against heavies. I still want to see him fight more, though, because he leaves whatever he brought with him on the table. Unlike when he eats... Rahman was in the best shape I've seen him in in a long, long time. He seems to be finally taking his career seriously and went the 12 rounds without becoming completely arm and leg weary. He wasn't able to put out a former middleweight, but then again, he never really was able to land a lot of clean, hard shots in a round. His threat level doesnt seem to be that high, so I don't know if he will be good enough to beat some of the other top heavyweights. He did, however, do enough to earn a victory in this fight by controlling the pace and making Toney fight where he wanted him to. To those who argue that Toney should have won becuase he landed more clean blows, remember, effectiveness counts. If the blows don't slow your opponent down, even for a split second, you may as well not be punching at all. I wanted Toney to win, but I can't give him the fight just because of what I want.

rahman pretty much said in his after fight interview that if toney was in better shape ( cardio wise ) he would have beat him!

does anyone acknowledge the fact that toney landed almost every punch he threw! if he was a real heavy-weight ( power wise) he would have knocked rahman in the 2nd! rahman has an horrible defence and would get knocked out by the likes of Joe Mesi, Sam Peters, or Tua.

toney is a fat ass and he will never change, its about time he hangs em up.

I heard it Toney looks like he hardly worked hard in the gym and looks pretty much the same since two-three weeks ago.

ummmmm........

the fight was bullshit. that brings an even worse name to the division. boooooorrrrrriiiiinnnnnnngggggggg :boobies: james is fat

Maskaev actually has a chance to beat Rahman, believe it or not. He already knocked Rahman out cold through the ropes and on his ass. Rahman will run in that fight and hide or do nothing like usual.

ANY fight that ends with a draw that i've seen was usually a boring fight, but hey, i haven't seen too much and am not afraid to admit it.

these guys went a long way towards proving that they are not the top 2 heavies in the world

Some guys told me Rahman look beatup and was bloodied. Looking at Rahman compared to Toney at end they said Rahman got beatup though.Yeah, he was definitely bleeding from the mouth. If Margaret Goodman had been the doc, she may have stopped it ala Chico. he was drooling blood all over Toney in the last round.

damn rahman got robbed, he shoulda won this fight. well atleast he exposed james fraud toney, and hes still teh champ. thats what matters really........ oleg maskave next---- peace

was the danny williams - matt skelton fight more exciting? wihtout having seen it id bet all my points on yes

I hear people say work rate of Rahman and his jab saved him because Toney had a bigger tire and looked worse. I guess steroids do help even when you are flabby. Some guys told me Rahman look beatup and was bloodied. Looking at Rahman compared to Toney at end they said Rahman got beatup though.

the fight wasnt that good. 2nd round was good though. but the fight pretty much sucked. Typical modern heavyweight fight?

I now hate Rahman... not for anything he did in the fight... But for wearing that shirt when announcing the winner.

was the danny williams - matt skelton fight more exciting?

was the fight any good atleast. it seemed like people were raving about that danny williams matt skelton fight, not so much eagerness over this one in the replys though. not good at all rahman didnt commit to a right hand the whole night toney didnt want to come forward stupid boring fight that will be free again next time

Scores were 117-111, 114-114, 114-114 Judges ruled DRAW

was the fight any good atleast. it seemed like people were raving about that danny williams matt skelton fight, not so much eagerness over this one in the replys though. the fight wasnt that good. 2nd round was good though. but the fight pretty much sucked.