John Ruiz's cheap shots at Toney on FNF

THats fucked up. hahhahahhaa

You're definately playing dumb... Who knows... maybe he did tear his ACL purposefully. It was one of FOUR injuries leading to FOUR cancellations of fights with Rahman. Another "injury" he had was while jogging. Make up your own mind. He's known to fake injuries. Im sure if you take a PHD class in sports medicine the first and only class is the administration of anabolic steroids. you make it sounds like vitali klitschko doctors his own injuries, did he do his own ACL surgery too??? james toney is just as likely to understand the risk/reward of sterioid use, you can pick up the paper and read about it everyday. the bottom line being that no doctor under any circumstance would prescribe nandrolone to a professional athlete without informing him of why it was necessary and asking whether or not it was acceptable. im sorry you cant get real it doesent get any more clear

Your grammar was terrible. You had so many errors it wasn't possible to read. Seriously. my point was. whan you said i chose to think vk used steroids to heal and not as an enhancer, you where being hypocritycal, because you chose to think toney used it to heal and not as an enhancer. you see, you did what you accused me off doing. and that obiusly cause you dislike the klits(by what other reason would you make so many threads about them and spread so much hate on them as you do).

i wonder if his grammar is any better than toneys? after all according to you toney is so uneducated and innocent he probably cant even read. oh well im sure if james had typed it youd be telling him how awesome his abbreviations were and how much you loved them.

You dumb ass... my point is he doesn't have a PhD in sports medicine like the Klitschkos. Now who is more likely to know about steroids? Get real... Im sure if you take a PHD class in sports medicine the first and only class is the administration of anabolic steroids. you make it sounds like vitali klitschko doctors his own injuries, did he do his own ACL surgery too??? james toney is just as likely to understand the risk/reward of sterioid use, you can pick up the paper and read about it everyday. the bottom line being that no doctor under any circumstance would prescribe nandrolone to a professional athlete without informing him of why it was necessary and asking whether or not it was acceptable. im sorry you cant get real it doesent get any more clear

Your grammar was terrible. You had so many errors it wasn't possible to read. Seriously. dont tell me your so dumb that you didnt get it

Are you drunk? What you just typed made no sense? dont tell me your so dumb that you didnt get it

Are you drunk? What you just typed made no sense? my points is that your hypcrytical whan you say toney used it ause off injury and vk didnt, my points is that you chose so cause you have something against the klits.

My point is, you have no point. He didn't need any assistance to beat Ruiz. my points is that your hypcrytical whan you say toney used it ause off injury and vk didnt, my points is that you chose so cause you have something against the klits.

You dumb ass... my point is he doesn't have a PhD in sports medicine like the Klitschkos. Now who is more likely to know about steroids? Get real... as a result of vitalis steroid use he was forced out of the olympics and missed a chance at a gold medal he had prepared 4 years for. james toney took steroids and his punishment was not being able to fight for a single title belt for a single year. so your statement that vitali was patted on the back while two uneducated guys get punished is completely biased, nonfactual and outright retarded. not only was what toney doing worse, after all it is 2006, steroids have become much more powerful since vitali was caught and ways to trick tests have been developed also. the steroids toney used were probablt two or three times as powerful as anything vitali could have gotten his hands on in 1995 UKraine. but nowadays atheltes are much more informed about what they take or dont take and there is no way somebody takes nandrolone without being aware of it. if he had taken it for an injury the boxing commission should have been made aware and the fight shouldnt have gone on until he was clean. all you guys who say toney couldnt have been taking steriods cause of the way he looked are stupid too. he took them for their endurance benefits, just like in MLB they say that pitchers take steroids more often than everyday players.... pitchers arent ripped, they do it for endurance and recovery, just like james toney. they accused lance armstrong of doping..... is he a bodybuiler???? no, he took steroids for endurance. james toney doesent need physical strength, thats not why he took them, he needed to ensure he could go the full 12 for the title at 235 and he did. however any way you cut this it is simply a way for this dumbass original poster to push his racist agenda by specifically comparing toney (uneducated) and vitali (super-duper educated). by the way FLYYYY toney graduated from Ann Arbor Huron High School, which is right down the street, maybe i can go get his grad photo for you so you can stop believing hes so dumb and undereducated. oh yeah and naieve too, which he mustve been to let those doctors take advantage of him.

My point is, you have no point. He didn't need any assistance to beat Ruiz. its called making sure, its why cooney hit norton when he was out. he didnt need to, he was just makin sure.

So you believe he thought he needed steroids to beat Ruiz? Is that what you're saying? as a result of vitalis steroid use he was forced out of the olympics and missed a chance at a gold medal he had prepared 4 years for. james toney took steroids and his punishment was not being able to fight for a single title belt for a single year. so your statement that vitali was patted on the back while two uneducated guys get punished is completely biased, nonfactual and outright retarded. not only was what toney doing worse, after all it is 2006, steroids have become much more powerful since vitali was caught and ways to trick tests have been developed also. the steroids toney used were probablt two or three times as powerful as anything vitali could have gotten his hands on in 1995 UKraine. but nowadays atheltes are much more informed about what they take or dont take and there is no way somebody takes nandrolone without being aware of it. if he had taken it for an injury the boxing commission should have been made aware and the fight shouldnt have gone on until he was clean. all you guys who say toney couldnt have been taking steriods cause of the way he looked are stupid too. he took them for their endurance benefits, just like in MLB they say that pitchers take steroids more often than everyday players.... pitchers arent ripped, they do it for endurance and recovery, just like james toney. they accused lance armstrong of doping..... is he a bodybuiler???? no, he took steroids for endurance. james toney doesent need physical strength, thats not why he took them, he needed to ensure he could go the full 12 for the title at 235 and he did. however any way you cut this it is simply a way for this dumbass original poster to push his racist agenda by specifically comparing toney (uneducated) and vitali (super-duper educated). by the way FLYYYY toney graduated from Ann Arbor Huron High School, which is right down the street, maybe i can go get his grad photo for you so you can stop believing hes so dumb and undereducated. oh yeah and naieve too, which he mustve been to let those doctors take advantage of him.

It doesn't matter if he thought he needed steroids, the point is he probably used them. Needing steroids to be competitive against someone and using them for an extra advantage are two different things. C'mon man you saw Toney's physique against Rydell Booker; he never looked so lean and so strong since. I'm 90% sure he was on something for that fight, if not for Ruiz. When you see a guy looking like he did against Rydell, and then like a soft piece of shit with no muscle tone against Ruiz, something is up. Likely what happened is he used steroids against Booker and got off of them after the fight, but there were still traces left in his system when he tested for Ruiz. I'm not sure if he was on steroids for Ruiz, but I am very suspicious about the Booker fight.

My point is, you have no point. He didn't need any assistance to beat Ruiz. to heal ore to have a easier fight ore maybe because he needed it to win. whats your point?

So why would he willingly take steroids if he and everyone knows he needs no assistance in beating Ruiz? to heal ore to have a easier fight ore maybe because he needed it to win. whats your point?

So why would he willingly take steroids if he and everyone knows he needs no assistance in beating Ruiz? hard to say, but no i dont think so. but this aint the point.

Toney did not have a script for nandrolone and did not have a doctor to support his claim. Further more when it comes to nandrolone being used as a rehab agent it shows how bad of a liar Toney was. Any trainer or doctor will tell you there are far better drugs used to heal muscle and soft tissue than nandrolone, and would question its use for that purpose. Toney and Goossen couldn't even get their story right. Toney denied any usage while at the same time Goosssen came up with the rehab excuse. Goossen said it was from a torn bicep and tricep injury that occured over a year ago. Big problem with that, besides no backing from a doctor, is nandrolone is only traceable in the body for 6 months max. Like it's been stated...he was busted using performance enhancing steroids. Nandrolone is not a recuperative steroid...and is used primarily for increasing strength. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

So you believe he thought he needed steroids to beat Ruiz? Is that what you're saying? hard to say, but no i dont think so. but this aint the point.

Toney did not have a script for nandrolone and did not have a doctor to support his claim. Further more when it comes to nandrolone being used as a rehab agent it shows how bad of a liar Toney was. Any trainer or doctor will tell you there are far better drugs used to heal muscle and soft tissue than nandrolone, and would question its use for that purpose. Toney and Goossen couldn't even get their story right. Toney denied any usage while at the same time Goosssen came up with the rehab excuse. Goossen said it was from a torn bicep and tricep injury that occured over a year ago. Big problem with that, besides no backing from a doctor, is nandrolone is only traceable in the body for 6 months max.

So you believe he thought he needed steroids to beat Ruiz? Is that what you're saying? and you choose to think it was for medical use with toney. so your a hypocrite.