There's no doubt about it when you go overseas to fight in Britain it's like fighting two guys in the ring at once. I'd swear on my life the British fighters feed off the energy of those crowds. The crowds are also biased, which is good for hometown guys; for example, they don't acknowledge punches landed by the foreign opponent, which is the right thing to do. Not let you fighter get worried. Remember when Mitchell dropped Calzaghe and it was DEAD SILENCE? That's the perfect way to handle your boy going down instead of freaking out and making him a nervous wreck. They didn't acknowledge ANY of the 5 punches Lacy landed that fight, which was great. Big ups to the amazing crowds of Britain. Wish we had that kind of attitude here in the States.
You shouldn't have cursed at me. You made me sad. For like a second. ;)
Apologies for cursing, although I honestly cant remember cursing.. other than "spaz".. :D
Metro mentioned about Gman and the classless "hope you die" remarks by the crowd. Then there's the Injin Chi match where the fans were shouting derogatory insults about Asians. I admit, I don't see too many big fights from the UK. Perhaps there are more. But you know what? This doesn't surprise me about crazy sports fans in the UK. I'm not saying that ALL UK fans are bad...but enough of them generate lot of bad press about themselves. Don't blame me if your own BBC reports it world wide.
The boxing in England have been for the most part calm. They are more boisterous with their chants than the American fans. In America, it's MEXICO! Mexico or USA! USA! or some simple stuff like that. It's cool to hear that from your fans something much different. But when I saw Hagler win by TKO and got pelted with bottles and chairs, it will always be ingrained in my mind.
Nothing you say will make me forget. It's true, that is the worst it ever got - for a boxing match. As for your other sports....damn.
Ok I agree with this post a lot more than your others...
It all boils down to the fact that hooligans are everywhere. You have given examples, I have given examples. Both sets of examples are a disgrace to the sport and a disgrace to the fighters that make up the sport.
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you used golata as a cop out to say american fans were worse, or as bad, as we are
gotta admit we're primal
You really havent started well here, have you?
Firstly, you didnt answer my question. Secondly, I never used the Golota example to show that "american fans were worse". I used that example to show that there are hooligans everywhere... now move on, and make sure that 90% of your posts arent about me in the future.
i gotta say, yelling you wish a man would die who sacrificed himself for your entertainment, (G-man) is prtty bad..comparing what americans did to golata to things like that, is like comparing jason litzau to floyd mayweather,...the diss on g-man was much harder
So who compared the golota thing to the Gman thing then? :rolleyes:
Here was the Subject: British fight crowds: best in boxing
And this is why I disagree:
^ I didn't say they are the "worst". I said they are not the best. Stereotypes are created by the perpetuating masses. There is some truth to it. I'm sorry you didn't know.
Oooh ok, so because fans acted poorly once and it happened to be in England, this is the reason why you say they arent "the best crowd"?
I think that summarises your logic --- fucked.
sometimes a boxer is not only boxs but also have many other things in his mind. If anyone is fully into boxing you might see soom very good oppenets but you got so matchs thata robbed and some have influnce sort of money,fans and many other factors.
Example Hatton and Tszyu there are both where nearly on the same point but Tszyu new if this went to the descision of the judges than it woulf be Hatton for sure and there are some crowd riots that the security cant hanld so let the guy win. If you seen Tszyu in Hatton fight he was okay with it he wasnt hurt so he could quit.
That is only my point of view
I don't really care. I brought up the subject about the Hagler/Minter fans and he took offense to it.
What? When did I take offence lol lol lol.
I just showed that your stereotype of British fans was completely wrong... you tried to say just because Hagler/Minter fans were bad, that all British supporters are bad... I then told you where to get off, and gave you the Golota example...
Nobody took offence, I just pointed out a major problem in your argument.
I agree, it all came from the "soccer" crowds that we get over here. Trust me, if you think that is an atmosphere, you wanna check out some of the football matches that go on over here, they are like triple that... Football is virtually a religion in this country, but people have begun acting the way they do in a football stadium -- in a boxing arena too... Oh and cricket! Of all sports, you even get an atmosphere at Cricket matches now... its so great to experience... :)
Well you get the football fans at Hatton's fight most definately through his strong allegiances to Manchester City FC. Similarly Joe has many Cardiff City FC supporters who travelled up to Manchester to see the boxing lesson. The British fans to create the best boxing atmosphere, they chant and overall add to the big fight spectacle. Although when Joe fights in Wales is where you see his partisan supporters at best :boxing:
No. You brought up the subject of soccer fans. Not me. I just continued it. BTW, getting mad on the internet is retarded of you.
Trying to interpret my mood is retarded of you...
My comparison to "Soccer" fans was to explain the reason why so much passion is seen in the boxing over here... you used it as a tool to detract attention away from the real issue about the fans, because I was providing you with evidence against American - Boxing fans, so you tried to switch attention to British - Soccer fans... you see the difference?
I saw this documentary regarding rabid European soccer fans. When a black player currently has possession of the ball, fans would make 'monkey chants' and would throw banana peels at these black players. And the worst part is, it's still happening until now :(
when chris Eubank fought a white guy called Roccigini in europe, there were all these racial chants just becos Eubank was winning
I agree, it all came from the "soccer" crowds that we get over here. Trust me, if you think that is an atmosphere, you wanna check out some of the football matches that go on over here, they are like triple that... Football is virtually a religion in this country, but people have begun acting the way they do in a football stadium -- in a boxing arena too... Oh and cricket! Of all sports, you even get an atmosphere at Cricket matches now... its so great to experience... :)
Word, our country seems to infect every sport that gets big with footy hooligans. To be fair though there is nothing like an atmosphere at a football match, especially when its your team playing, nothing can beat that atmosphere, ever.
We are hooligans yes, and we are totally disrepectful to the opposition (usually influenced by alcohol) but atleast we aint as bad as some countries i.e we aint racist.
You go to some grounds in Europe and you will be horrified. Some dark dark places in this world
I'm not saying British fans are well-mannered but they are most supportive of their fighters. Did we all align ourselves with Winky Wright against Sam Soliman? Hell no, our friends were loving Soliman's willingness to throw.
I saw this documentary regarding rabid European soccer fans. When a black player currently has possession of the ball, fans would make 'monkey chants' and would throw banana peels at these black players. And the worst part is, it's still happening until now :(
Spaz? How about the 50 or so Italians that were mobbed by British hooligans in a soccer match?
Anymore arguments? This is fun. :)
DONT CHANGE THE SUBJECT!
Fuego is right, the crowd is great overseas...I love watching big fights across the pnd on TV, it beats watching a big fight in the US with half the seats empty.
Bottles and chairs hurt more than pink lemonade that doused Golota. Also, I think that was his own fans throwing stuff at him for walking out of the fight.
If you're going to compare hooligans to American fans, you're not going to win this argument.
Pink lemonade? You forgot the bottles/cans/cups that were being thrown aswell...
Oh or how about that one in America where the fighter was knocked out of the ring and then as somebody at ringside was rushing to help him up he had a wooden chair chucked at him?
There are hooligans everywhere, now get off the moral high ground you fucking spaz.
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