Are fans and the boxing media going to say Hasim Rahman is washed up? If that happens I'm going to be pissed, Rahman is a legitimate heavyweight. And if Toney beats him, he deserves the full credit.
No fucking way. Griffin was very good.
How is that? by getting hit by Jones when he had a knee on the canvas?
Griffin fucking sucks man....he's a bum. Bar none.
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No fucking way. Griffin was very good. Can't say the same about Sanders.
Corrie Sanders is just as good a fighter as Montell Griffin.
Griffin Sucks balls man, his 1 DQ victory over roy is all he had.
what is with all the negative approaches to fighters by some folks- we all love boxing yeah toneys a bowling ball - but he hasnt always been- and rahman has gotten plucked before- - it still could be a great fight as can any fight whether or not a fighter has lost some skill speed or never had any at all - i ve seen great foights by 2 class d fighters- anyhow toney by decision blob or not
Well, define "full credit." Will that make him the best HW out there? No. Will it be his most impressive win to date and move him up in the rankings? Probably, if the win is convincing, which I expect it to be.
You can bet your ass that everyone would be singing a different tune had Vitali thrashed Rachman, which I feel he obviously would have without the injuries. But Toney has always been very smart at picking his fights and hasn't put himself in any kind of risk situation. He's not only a veteran master of boxing inside the ring, but he's become just as good outside the ring. He's not going to put himself into real risk with someone who might be able to match his boxing skills (Byrd) or someone who may be just too big and have too good of a jab for him (Wlad) until it's a unification mega-payday PPV. Toney is a very smart guy and has engineered this comeback beautifully, don't be fooled by his ignorant, thug speech and pimped-out image. That's all an act.
Are fans and the boxing media going to say Hasim Rahman is washed up? If that happens I'm going to be pissed, Rahman is a legitimate heavyweight. And if Toney beats him, he deserves the full credit.
Amen to that.. putting the lights out in 2 weeks.
I dont want to hear rabbit punching, Wlad kept turning around with Peter punching. The ref will never call rabbit punch if you turn your back.
Even according to Wilkipedia....they were illegal
Read toward the bottom.
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2 times, the shots were illegal rabbit punches.
The third was a push when he was off balance.
I dont want to hear rabbit punching, Wlad kept turning around with Peter punching. The ref will never call rabbit punch if you turn your back.
With Peter he just fell down with every big punch.
2 times, the shots were illegal rabbit punches.
The third was a push when he was off balance.
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Yeah I know it happens. But it was more like Wlad changing the fight with his own punches.
If you can absorb his punches you can take him down in the later rounds, he has been exposed twice already. With Peter he just fell down with every big punch. Wlad is not a great HW, he is ok, but not great.
It happens bro. That's why they say the fight can change with just one punch no matter who you fight.
Yeah I know it happens. But it was more like Wlad changing the fight with his own punches.
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Dude.....this "Scoring a T.K.O." is misused. You saw the fight....and it was not stopped because Wlad was hurt. It was stopped because he was fatigued, and Sdunek stopped it because Wlad looked like was going to die from exhaustion.
It happens bro. That's why they say the fight can change with just one punch no matter who you fight.
Got pounded on, but he absorbed it like Brewster did and scored a TKO. I'm not trying to come off as a hater or anything cause I like watching Wlad fight, but with Wlad vs Ross you have to call it like it was.
Dude.....this "Scoring a T.K.O." is misused. You saw the fight....and it was not stopped because Wlad was hurt. It was stopped because he was fatigued, and Sdunek stopped it because Wlad looked like was going to die from exhaustion.
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I want to watch the second fight now, simply out of morbid curiosity.
What did Puritty do untill the time of the stoppage?
*crickets*
Got pounded on, but he absorbed it like Brewster did and scored a TKO. I'm not trying to come off as a hater or anything cause I like watching Wlad fight, but with Wlad vs Ross you have to call it like it was.
I've been amped about these fights lately because I watched them both last week for the 1st time in years to score them. ;)
I want to watch the second fight now, simply out of morbid curiosity.
HA!! The fight is in my collection. Typical Wlad wears himself out and talentless but tough Purrity kicked his ass so bad Wlad's conner jumped in stopping the fight.
What did Puritty do untill the time of the stoppage?
*crickets*
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Quit looking at Boxrec.
Right, did you catch that fight at the time of the stoppage? He ran out of gas, let his hands down in the corner and the fight was stopped.
Wlad was tired from whipping his ass...so they stopped it.
HA!! The fight is in my collection. Typical Wlad wears himself out and talentless but tough Purrity kicked his ass so bad Wlad's conner jumped in stopping the fight.
I've seen the first fight....and Toney was so damn inactive I don't know how you could give him the decision. And this thread is about Toney, but I screwed that up.
If you say the second is a robbery, then I'll agree.
I had the first fight for Toney by a round. That was the sentiment at ring side as well with everyone commentating on the fight having Toney ahead.
Here's Lederamn's card from the 1st fight:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/dantzu/ToneyGriffenHBOscore1.jpg
Foreman called it a disgrace to boxing.
The 2nd fight was comical.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/dantzu/ToneyGriffenHBOscore2.jpg
The point is, I've seen several people say "Yea but Toney lost to Montel Griffen" like it should be held agaisnt him.
Those were poor decisions.
Purrity beat Wlad so bad, Wlad's corner jumped in the ring stopping it.
Quit looking at Boxrec.
Right, did you catch that fight at the time of the stoppage? He ran out of gas, let his hands down in the corner and the fight was stopped.
Wlad was tired from whipping his ass...so they stopped it.
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And Wlad was whipping Puritty's ass all over the ring, before he ran out of gas and couldn't lift his arms from fatigue...so the ref stopped it.
It's a two way street.
Purrity beat Wlad so bad, Wlad's corner jumped in the ring stopping it.