Lacy , Calzaghe Now the excuses begin - wheres the integrity?

As a basic answer to the questions you've brought up. Lacy was overrated, and I had said this long ago. Saying this, I still believed he'd win the fight however. On the other hand, Calzaghe hasn't put on a match showing that much skill in as long as I can remember. Calzaghe's best performence makes this match look that much more awful than a usual Calzaghe fight. I hope Calzaghe looks as impressive as he did last fight in his remaining fights before retirement.

Wow, is the only word I can think of. I admit I was one of teh Joe bashers. I thought he was a few years to old for this fight. I didn't think he could hold off Lacy. Man, I admit was I wrong. Incredible fight by Calzaghe. :beerchug: I always thought it would be Kessler that would exposed Lacy for the really one dimensional figther he is. Anyway, now I want to see a Calzaghe vs Kessler unification. Don't think it will happen though. This has shown that Joe is multi dimensional and most of his supporters knew that anyway he can box and brawl just as well, if anything it is Lacy who has been exposed as one dimensional, if someone doesn't stand toe to toe with him what does he do?

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Wow, is the only word I can think of. I admit I was one of teh Joe bashers. I thought he was a few years to old for this fight. I didn't think he could hold off Lacy. Man, I admit was I wrong. Incredible fight by Calzaghe. :beerchug: I always thought it would be Kessler that would exposed Lacy for the really one dimensional figther he is. Anyway, now I want to see a Calzaghe vs Kessler unification. Don't think it will happen though.

how cany anybody make excuses for lacy,he walked into this fight saying hes gonna ko joe,and hes manager was talking shit like ive never heard. then they both came crashing down to reality and realised that he wouldnt win a pissup in a brewery because he was so over rated

The only guy around for Joe to fight 5 years ago was some guy named Ottke, and I think we all know the reasons that the fight never happened. If he can perform like he did last night, I'd say he has 2 years left in him. The problem for me is that there aren't many fights out there for him. I hear Tarver mentioned, but he's just signed up to fight BHop. Kessler would be a good fight, but Calzaghe has stated he wants to move up to become a 2 weight world champion. I think we'll see Calzaghe fighting for Clinton Woods' IBF light heavy strap later this year. I think that is plan, Warren spoke about it last night, hopefully in the summer, Joe is now a natural L/Heavy.

Glad to see some honest and humble posts in this thread: Was calzaghe that good or lacy that bad steelhead Restores the faith a little!

Again your probably right Phil, I myself was always disapointed in Joe's opponents but I never questioned his ability, a good comparrison would be the Calzaghe - Eubank fight, Joe was in the Lacy type role as the young pretender and Eubank in the Calzaghe role as the established champion, the difference being that Joe won in a classly performance whereas Lacy just capitulated. It is a shame that Joe never did this five years ago but he has had his problems with injury and home life, hopefully he can go to the States and put on a couple of good shows, only then will he get the full credit he deserves! Although before the Lacy fight Marvin Hagler already had Joe as a top six p4p? The only guy around for Joe to fight 5 years ago was some guy named Ottke, and I think we all know the reasons that the fight never happened. If he can perform like he did last night, I'd say he has 2 years left in him. The problem for me is that there aren't many fights out there for him. I hear Tarver mentioned, but he's just signed up to fight BHop. Kessler would be a good fight, but Calzaghe has stated he wants to move up to become a 2 weight world champion. I think we'll see Calzaghe fighting for Clinton Woods' IBF light heavy strap later this year.

Check my thread out mate. And this is the last time I'll throw the word "mate" around. The topic starter is dead on the money. I did read your thread 'pal' ;) It was one of the reasons I posted mine, the responses that is not your thread which was spot on!

I have always been a fan of Calzaghe, but his lack of serious competition has always annoyed me (even if it is, as I believe, only partially his fault). Last night was a great performance by him, and it's good to see some people on here finally giving the man some respect. I don't expect everyone here to do that, because I'm convinced most of the people on here are about 13 years old, lol. :D Again your probably right Phil, I myself was always disapointed in Joe's opponents but I never questioned his ability, a good comparrison would be the Calzaghe - Eubank fight, Joe was in the Lacy type role as the young pretender and Eubank in the Calzaghe role as the established champion, the difference being that Joe won in a classly performance whereas Lacy just capitulated. It is a shame that Joe never did this five years ago but he has had his problems with injury and home life, hopefully he can go to the States and put on a couple of good shows, only then will he get the full credit he deserves! Although before the Lacy fight Marvin Hagler already had Joe as a top six p4p?

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I had a bet on Lacy. I thought Calzaghe was past his prime, and he would be taken out by Lacy in the late rounds. Boy, i was dead wrong.. Joe didn´t look that motivated ind his last fights, before this one. And someone pointed out to me, he would be for this tittle match.. You where right. I am a Kessler fan, and was quite sure he was the strongest in the division. Now im not 100% sure anymore, but i hope Joe would take the fight. That would be the fight of the year.

No, your right, but the forum is supposedly about boxing and recognising the qualities of boxing. Lacy always looked a possible great fighter but he had never proved it yet many on here would not listen to that logic, yet they still disregarded the fact the Calzaghe had been an unbeaten champion for almost a decade almost as if it didn't matter, obviously it did, real boxing fans would now admit to that! I have always been a fan of Calzaghe, but his lack of serious competition has always annoyed me (even if it is, as I believe, only partially his fault). Last night was a great performance by him, and it's good to see some people on here finally giving the man some respect. I don't expect everyone here to do that, because I'm convinced most of the people on here are about 13 years old, lol. :D

Be honest Micky, did you expect any different? Some of the people on here (RunWithKnives for example) have been man enough to admit they were wrong. No, your right, but the forum is supposedly about boxing and recognising the qualities of boxing. Lacy always looked a possible great fighter but he had never proved it yet many on here would not listen to that logic, yet they still disregarded the fact the Calzaghe had been an unbeaten champion for almost a decade almost as if it didn't matter, obviously it did, real boxing fans would now admit to that!

I am dismayed yet not shocked by some of the posts I've read here today. For months there have been posters stating that Lacy was a class above Calzaghe and that Calzaghe was overated and that he would be stopped early by Lacy! What last night PROVED was that Joe is world class and it was Lacy that was overated. Lacy hardly landed a shot the whole fight and Calzaghe boxed his head off with ease, they looked leagues apart in class. Many of us hard core Calzaghe fans had defended Joe on many occasions and had told of his many skills and qualities but we were dismissed by many as not knowing what we were talking about. Those 'experts' who stood up and mantained that Lacy was going to walk through Joe into further stardom should now stand up now be counted. Calzaghe last night destroyed a supposedly superstar as if he were a novice, any fight outside of this would have been stopped early on as it was humiliating for Lacy. Some have said already today that this proves nothing, Calzaghe still had it to prove, yet yesterday Lacy had nothing to prove, Lacy yesterday was the best super middle for years according to many? Calzaghe just took Lacy apart as if he were nothing so what does he have to prove? If you were wrong be strong enough and admit it instead of always looking for a negative to save face! Be honest Micky, did you expect any different? Some of the people on here (RunWithKnives for example) have been man enough to admit they were wrong.

No answers sort of answers my question!