Here is a vid that shows all the shots that Cotto took by the heavy handed puncher-Ricardo Torres. Many of the shots if you notice, land flush and would have knocked other top fighters down, ort out. Cotto may not have the best chin, but if you are a boxer and know how it feels to get hit on the point of the chin, one can appreciate the dedication that Cotto Shows in this fight. He should have never opted to take all those shots, but he did. When he boxed Torres, he clearly outclassed him, but anyways here is the vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0PoplgErAk&search=cotto
My point is if he was fighting at 147, he'd have been finished off by Floyd or Margarito.
That would be mostly because they are (especially Floyd)....vastly superior fighters to Torres.
And Torres was the smaller guy.
If Cotto had a "bad chin".....he'd have been KO'd, whether Torres was smaller or not.
The point I amde about Cotto's vulnerability is actually more damning ......the dude is slow on defense. He's there to get hit by his foes hardest punches.
I think his chin isn't that bad. But, he can be slow & mechanical, & this makes him someone who can be nailed by his opponent's best shot(s).
Torres straight-up blasted him.
It has been mentioned that Cotto has outgrown the 140 division. I am one of those who say that his main problem is not the chin, but the sacrifices the guy has to make to weight 140. I am almost sure that he would be better off as a 147 because he won't be draining himself and then ballooning up for fight night.
zab's chin is in a lower category than cotto's, zab's recovery ability is out the door, once he gets staggered he cant come back tough. he loses too much confidence. many people said cotto had a bad chin after the corley fight, and that's incorrect because he wasn't even hit on the chin. cotto gets punched coming in, and when that happens vs a puncher you take some punishment. in fact if you take a close look at the majority of cotto's knockdowns he's getting caught coming in. I gotta admit though, he should've blown Torres out much earlier and not taken that much from a guy of Torres caliber.
Regardless, at that high level of competition, Cotto came into the ring weighing damn near 158. Corley on the other hand Still weighed less than 140. I know he got hit on the temple, but with that big of weight difference you aren't supposed to be rocked like that. So the question arises how's his chin?
Of course, I think Cotto has better heart and determination than Zab. Miguel has still come back to win his fights, but what happens when he's in their with a killer of a finisher like a Castillo, or a Margarito? It's lights out.
Cottos chin should not be an issuse. Cotto is a boxer, he should box, and forget brawling.
That's like saying Zab's chin shouldn't be an issue. Zab isn't a brawler either but if you have a bad chin. IT's AN ISSUE.
Lol its really funny to see how peurto ricans are trying to claim that Cotto has a very good chin but in reality he DOESNT. A boxer with good chin doesnt get dazed or wobbled by those shots, rather than trying to give him credit for having good chin, you guyz should be giving him credit for having a good heart. A lot of boxers dont have good heart but cotto surely does and it could help him in the long run. but you know my main concern is his defence(or lack of) , a lot of head-shots that he took from torres could easily have been blocked if he'd tried to block them. if you guyz remember, when cotto first burst onto the scene, everybody was saying that cotto is a very well rounded fighter and he has a very good defence. but what happend to that defence? you know cotto's defence actually detorieted when the heat was on, it was the first time cotto had been in that type of situation and his defence failed. he took alot of flush shots which he shouldnt have taken in the first the place.
You know Chin and power are two attributes that come naturaly and thers no way to improve them. but you can work on your defence and cotto surely needs to work on his defence. But tbh i dont think cotto can beat many(or any)elite fighters if he continues to fight the way he is doing atm. I dont think he can beat castillo let alone floyd mayweather jnr. He really really needs to work on his defence if he is to stand a chance against those guyz.
regards
I don't see how that video is supposed to show us that he has a good chin. He was practically down after almost ever hit. It shows he has a ton of heart, but not a solid chin.
When Chico gets hit hard enough he goes down.
When Cotto gets hit hard period, he is visibly shakin. ala Zab judah chicken dance with more "heart"
Chico is rarely ever shakin like that, he never looses his "wits" like cotto, he just goes down, gets up and continues to fight like the warrior that he is.
how did wlad do against a man by the name of corrie sanders. that fight didnt last to long no did it
Quick question.....to know if I'm dealing with another chimpanzee....
Does Corrie Sanders hit hard?
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wow some of those were some really vicious shots. The one that first hurt cotto wasnt all that but it was one he didnt see, the last ones though snaped his head up and sideways.
Torres should have gone to the body and to the head though.
This just in:
Most of the punches that resulted in Wlad falling........WERE ILLEGAL. They hit him on the back of the head, and that causes you to lose equilibrium. Oh yeah.....and `1 punch knockout power is concerned...Peter is a harder puncher than Castillo.
JLC is not a big puncher. He normally wears down his opponents.....oh yeah....and Wlad survived.
Chico got knocked the fuck out with a left hook.
how did wlad do against a man by the name of corrie sanders. that fight didnt last to long no did it
He was holding on for dear life :rolleyes: He was hurt!
Whatever, you have the right to think what you want. I will keep thinking that it was an off-balance KD and that Wlad did better although he did not perform good at all.
Gime me a break, he couldn't even hurt Chris Bird. He's not a true heavyweight. Like I said Chico has a better chin then Wlad & he has 100 times more heart then Wlad ever will.
I'm not discussing this with you.....because you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
Idiot.
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