Since that's all anyone on here looks at, let's really look at his losses.
Buster Douglas- If you look at Tysons face going into this fight what do see?, someone that's very bored. After Tyson beat Spinks, he just became a head hunter. Just watch his fights against Frank Bruno and Carl Williams. No head movement, no intinsty, just looking to land one big punch. Then the Buster comes along. Now everyone says he was getting his butt handed to him the whole night...BS! One judge had Tyson up on his scorecard and another had the fight even. So it wasnt as one sided as some make it seem. In round 8, Tyson KO's Buster, but the ref only counts to 9. The count seemed VERY slow.
Evander Holyfield- Tyson after sevring 3 and a half years in jail makes a comeback. He KO's Frank Bruno in 3 rounds to win back the WBC belt. Then KO's Bruce Seldon in 1 round to win back the WBA belt. That alone is a huge accomlisment after no training for close to four years in jail. People make it out like Holyfield sent Tyson to the floor every round or something. When it was really Tyson trying to come in on the inside and Holyfield just counter punching. Then the fight was stoped in the 11th round due to Tysons cut. So then comes the rematch, the highest selling PPV in history. The first two rounds where rather even with Holyfield having the edge. Then the infamous 3 round takes place. Tyson is really hitting Holyfield, having the best round of either fight. It even looked like Tyson could KO Holyfield. Then Holyfield throws a headbutt and busts Tysons head open. The ref says the headbutt was an acident. We all know what happens next.
Lennox Lewis- This was Tysons first and only " really real" loss. At the press conference, Tyson actully wrestled with Lennox on the floor and bit Lennox on the leg. Lennox with cloths ripped and leg bitten ran up outta there. This fight was a bad style match up. Lennox being about half a foot taller and had a 13'' reach advantage. Tyson did anything but back down in this fight. He even won the first round. He came charging out of his conner in every round at Lennox. Lennox said himself that Tyson was WAY past his prime and believed he was in his. I strongly believe if this fight had taken place in Tysons prime it would have been a KO victory for Tyson. I mean, does anyone blame Joe Louis for losing to Rocky Marciano? Watch that fight and there's alot of simaliritys to Tyson vs. Lewis.
Danny Willaims- Tyson was winning this fight. He hurt his knee in the 2nd but fought on to the fourth.
Kevin Mcbride- This one really ticks me off. Tyson trainer told him he should quit, cause he was behind in the fight. Even though 2 judges had Tyson ahead!
Well there you have it...the losses. Compare him to other greats like Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey, Sonny Liston, Jack Johnson, he deserves to be mentioned with those guys. There records are similar, Tyson has does many great things. I think the biggest was winning back the WBC and WBA belts after 3 and ahalf years with out training. I dont think some understand how devastating that can be to a Boxers career. But some chose only to look at the above losses.....
Ok guys.....Ali had the best chin in heavyweight history DONT TALK SHIT...he got floored by Sonny Banks (18-7(14KO's) in the first round by aLeft HookHe then went on to get floored again by a Left Hook from Sir Henry Cooper (40-14 55 KO's)Then Ali got beat and Knocked down by Frazier by a Left Hook Ken Norton broke and beat ali, Chuck Wepner floored ali in the 9th im sure it was a body punch tho? corret me if im worng tho... Leon Spinks beat Ali for his title, then Larry Homles fucked him up before Berbick whopped on his ass two...Now if you really look at it Ali fought good punchers..
Liston- never hit him
Cooper- Put him down and had his ass knocked out and would hav won if ali's corrner didnt cheat
Frazier - 2 to 1 to Ali but ali was the only man to touch the canvas in 3 brutal fights
Foreman- Had him out on his feet but was to big tired and dumb to finish the fucking fight, but ali showed amazin champion courage and heart and knocked his big ass out
So thats Banks,Cooper,Frazier and "Dumb as a truck" Chuck have all floored the so called greatest
Now Iron Mike Tyson youngest heavyweight champion in history...Knocked out Marvis Fraizer not as skilled as his dad but what a heart...Destroyed Berbick...who was the last man to beat Ali...Knocked out Thomas,Briggs, Holmes the second last man to beat Ali...Tubbs...Spinks..Bruno..Williams...
Got knocked down for the first time against Buster Douglas..not goin to make excues we hav all heard them before...
Knocked Down by Evander...
Knocked down by Lewis ...
Sat down against williams, he could hav won this fight even 2 years ago, he had no heart at all in this fight i dont care if he was fightin with a sore leg or ne other bullshit...corrner decided he had, had enough of tyson vs kev so stopped tyson from himself
So Douglas...Evander..Lewis
vs
Banks...Cooper...Frazier...Dumb Truck Chuck.....
The men that beat tyson would easly beat the men who beat ali. with exception of douglas vs frazier, you could maybe say lewis frazier depending on wat lewis showed up, so really i would say the knock down/ chin are not bad on both parts, because before williams tyson was never down before half way through the fight...Ali went down with left hooks, and let frazier bank into his body all nite, think about tyson better head movement, feetmovement and higher work rate than frazier against a ali that wants to lay against the ropes?
These people are just mad because Tyson set records that will never be broken. He's a two time HW Champ with 10 successfull defenses. And KO's 21 people in the first round.....DEAL WITH IT!
and of course im a nobody right now who said i was a somebody? did i say i was famous? nooooooooooo. i can tell your little immature cause u said im a nobody ahahahaaha. ppl in middle school say that.ahahaha
u are a clear nobody i seen your me on the bag thread
what a sad ass trying to prove how macho u are
tyson was overrated and u want a 1/4 of his power
man u are gonna get smoked in a real fight
macho? im going to get smoked in a real fight. so whos going to shoot me?and ima sad ass. all what u said doesnt make sense besides tyson is overrated which isnt true ne way
ya got me trembling.ahahahaha i might be on tysons dick but look whos on oasis dick at least on on the dick of a famous person.your on the dick of a nobody :confused:
u are a clear nobody i seen your me on the bag thread
what a sad ass trying to prove how macho u are
tyson was overrated and u want a 1/4 of his power
man u are gonna get smoked in a real fight
ya got me trembling.ahahahaha i might be on tysons dick but look whos on oasis dick at least on on the dick of a famous person.your on the dick of a nobody :confused:
LOL! There just mad cause they know Tysons great and they can't do anything about it.
i dont know who u are but its clear u are a tyson cock sucker
get the facts right bitch
in fact oasis is probably the only person on this thread with sense
u are the dumb fuck
ya got me trembling.ahahahaha i might be on tysons dick but look whos on oasis dick at least on on the dick of a famous person.your on the dick of a nobody :confused:
a prime ali rips tyson a new one. those were the last two fights of ali's career. bc vitali beat danny williams doesnt mean hes better than tyson. and danny was dropped 4 times in that fight
SO. 5 of Tyson losses came after his 4 years of no training in jail.
Ya, Tony Tucker, Larry Holmes, Micheal Spinks, Frank Bruno, Tony Tubbs, Bone Crusher Smith, Donovan Rudduck, these guys suck. Im sure anyone on these boards could beat them. :rolleyes:
haha your right!! this was one of the weakest era's in hw boxing history!
Look, I live Ali county, just a county away from where he was born. I like him, but Tyson just hits too hard. If Ali got caught by one of those Tyson uppercuts...it's over.
Frazier,Norten,Spinks,Holmes,Berbick
Those 2 are people Tyson beat that Ali didnt. And just to say he beat them is an understatement. He put them down a totall of 7 times combined .
a prime ali rips tyson a new one. those were the last two fights of ali's career. bc vitali beat danny williams doesnt mean hes better than tyson. and danny was dropped 4 times in that fight
no ali relied on genuine talent and skill
not fake fear and bravado :rolleyes:
fake fear??? how can fear be fake. your not makin sense at all :confused:
er an old parkinsons riddled ali beat spinks
imagine what a prime ali would do to him
and your right mike gave spark to boxing
but thats it
ali would beat him 10/10
as would foreman
and frazier
and holyfield
i stand by that
u dont know shit about boxing to talk. ali beat LEON spinks not michael spinks. i think u owned your self there. so your knowledge doesnt get ne credit from me
I like Tyson because he reminds me of Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Sonny Liston. All are fighters we will NEVER see anything like again. Then Tyson came along, but it's hard to live up to those above Legends.
I think Tyson would beat Ali, maby not in 60 seconds, but I believe he would catch him sooner or later. Or it would be like his fights against James Smith or Tony Tucker. No one ever beat an 80's Tyson, I dought anyone could.
sure u have seen most of his fights. ;)
lets see legends gold medalist undefeated fighters,hmmmm titlest. your a real dumb fuck ya know :D
i dont know who u are but its clear u are a tyson cock sucker
get the facts right bitch
in fact oasis is probably the only person on this thread with sense
u are the dumb fuck
no they couldnt
tony tucker is nobody of worth
and frank bruno was average at best
to even bring these names up in a how good was tyson argument
is admiting defeat
and pinklon thomas was in a top 50 hardest hitters list also
actually i have seen most of his fights
all against nobodies
and when faced with decent fighters like holyfield and lewis he
had no chance
i mean who has he beat of worth
nobody an old holmes and spinks :rolleyes:
sure u have seen most of his fights. ;)
lets see legends gold medalist undefeated fighters,hmmmm titlest. your a real dumb fuck ya know :D
your joking right? i was definately old enough to watch tyson in 87, i loved watching him when i was a kid and i still do. tyson was the shit. he is one of the best heavyweights ever but there is no way he kicks ali's ass like you are saying. and saying that joe frazier ko'ed ali as a means of proving that ali wasnt that good is just stupid. getting knocked out by joe frazier is nothing to be ashamed of.
joe frazier never knocked ali out