Chavez twice KO'd Roger Mayweather. In '85, & '89. That's prime Mayweather.
In '95, old man Mayweather made Tszyu look like a fool !
Yet, according to you, Tszyu came out of the amateurs already more skilled than Chavez, huh ?
Have to disagree, Jabs. I was at the fight - Tszyu won 11-1, and Mayweather made it the ugliest fight I have ever seen.
If anything, he showed that Tszyu was still raw against a guy who knew how to survive, but he didn't make him look like a fool.
I never heard this explanation? Are you serious? He had to take a shit?
Duran had to take a shit, that's why he lost. He had to go take a shit. He meant to ask for a time out so he could run back to his locker room and take a huge dump. Duran is the greatest fighter of all time and could never lose to anyone unless he was drugged or drunk or had to take a shit.
The rematch w/ randall wasnt a draw homey. Chavez won by technical decision in the 8th round. You guys are a proly jus a bunch of racists who dont even box,and think u know everything. U dont know shyt till u get in the ring, u might think u do but u dont. And even if Chavez' record was padded for 40 fight, what bout the next 50? Chavez beat all the best of his time. And whos the as$hole tryin to make Gatti sound good, Gatti is garbage, Gatti lost to Ivan Robinson twice and Chavez beat Robinson when he was like 1029 years old,thats the end of that argument. Chavez was great, why cant u racists jus admit that.
This thread was not supposed to turn into a discussion about Chavez. As a matter of fact, you made a critical error in assuming it was because "Dino's" signature influenced you. Whatever kind of ridiculous hate you have for Chavez, or any rants concerning bias you feel from Mexican posters......can be directed toward an appropriate thread.
Members view these threads in search of a discussion that is usually on-topic. As far as I can tell, you are here to do one thing, and one thing only. To be a fag. Making blanket statements towards anyone who supports Chavez...is absolutely ridiculous. Also I'ts unfair to simply call someone else a "racist" because they thought he was not overrated.
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Duran had to take a shit, that's why he lost. He had to go take a shit. He meant to ask for a time out so he could run back to his locker room and take a huge dump. Duran is the greatest fighter of all time and could never lose to anyone unless he was drugged or drunk or had to take a shit.
Tyzsu has been fighting top competition from his 14th fight onwards, he didn't fight 40 bums to padd his record.
Whats this bullshit that tyszu is a joke, where is the respect?
Anyway, Chavez is defeinetly an all time great...certainly better than Tyszu is, Chavez beat everyone of his era.
Conquered 3 divisions and 5 world championships, not to mention all of his defenses.
How can he not be an all time great?
"Whats this bullshit that tyszu is a joke,"
Never said that.
"Chavez is defeinetly an all time great...certainly better than Tyszu is"
That, I said.
Chavez twice KO'd Roger Mayweather. In '85, & '89. That's prime Mayweather.
In '95, old man Mayweather made Tszyu look like a fool !
Yet, according to you, Tszyu came out of the amateurs already more skilled than Chavez, huh ?
I'm saying the Mexican fans (not specifically you) are bias here saying that Chavez is the greatest ever at his weight class(s), which is very bias and only reason I got into this argument at all, even thought I was trying to restrain myself from ever doing so.
.....& I can't imagine anything other than bias leading you to say Tszyu was greater than Chavez.
Because, you haven't supported your case, otherwise.
You misinterpreted what I said.
You seemed to be claiming some ethnic bias on my part, while also sayiing I should give Whitaker more credit.
My response= I'm white, Whitaker is greater than Chavez.
I'm saying the Mexican fans (not specifically you) are bias here saying that Chavez is the greatest ever at his weight class(s), which is very bias and only reason I got into this argument at all, even thought I was trying to restrain myself from ever doing so.
Tszyu already posses the skill and talent after his amateur career that took Chavez 90 fights to achieve.
Are you JUYJUY's little brother ?
If he had so much more skill....why did he lose to lesser fighters than Chavez did, while not beating better fighters than Chavez did ?
I bet Tszyu hit the heavy bag harder than Chavez did, too. Shame he couldn't come close to his ring acheivements.
I never said Chavez is greater than Whitaker, I said he (Whitaker) is as good if not better.
You misinterpreted what I said.
You seemed to be claiming some ethnic bias on my part, while also sayiing I should give Whitaker more credit.
My response= I'm white, Whitaker is greater than Chavez.
yeah......& losing to Vince Phillips & Ricky Hatton, didn't help.
Tszyu also never traveled out of 140, & his biggest win is over Zab Judah !
Chavez made numerous defenses of the 130 crown, before he moved up to 135....& destroyed a top 5 lb4lber, & puncher....in Edwin Rosario.
Chavez moved up from there to 140....where he fought meldrick taylor, the second best fighter in the world, & they fought in one of history's greatest fights.
Chavez is light years greater than Tszyu....& the only one with ethnic bias is you, a Russian dude.
Tszyu already posses the skill and talent after his amateur career that took Chavez 90 fights to achieve.
I am a white guy, buddy.
IMO...Pernell Whitaker is a greater fighter than Chavez.
So, please.....you will lose this argument if you take that route.
I never said Chavez is greater than Whitaker, I said he (Whitaker) is as good if not better.
Kostya Tszyu was destined to be great straight out of his amateur backround.
yeah......& losing to Vince Phillips & Ricky Hatton, didn't help.
Tszyu also never traveled out of 140, & his biggest win is over Zab Judah !
Chavez made numerous defenses of the 130 crown, before he moved up to 135....& destroyed a top 5 lb4lber, & puncher....in Edwin Rosario.
Chavez moved up from there to 140....where he fought meldrick taylor, the second best fighter in the world, & they fought in one of history's greatest fights.
Chavez is light years greater than Tszyu....& the only one with ethnic bias is you, a Russian dude.
Right, so if your going to hype up Chavez constantly you might as well give credit to the other great fighters like Whitaker and stop making a big fuss out of one fighters just because of his nationality. I never got into this argument before but I think its obvious what is going on here.
I am a white guy, buddy.
IMO...Pernell Whitaker is a greater fighter than Chavez.
So, please.....you will lose this argument if you take that route.