whos dodging who? is floyd dodging margarito or is it the other way around?
i know margarito offered $4 million to floyd for a fight and floyd turned it down, that leads me to believe that floyd is the dodger.
but what's ur opinion?
Why would a big, strong 147lber be afraid of a smaller, unproven-at-147 fighter.....who would happen to be a huge payday ?
Why would the best fighter in the world be afraid of a slow-handed, fairly predictable fighter ?
There is no answer...because neither is "dodging" the other, you dopes.
It's all about the business of boxing....a business which is truly awful.
Floyd seems to think Big Payday = Superior Fighter, so as long as he gets big paydays that makes him the pound for pound best. Which is complete bull and a total ghetto mentality. Yes, boxing is business, but first and foremost it should be a sport, and that means fighting the top guys in your weight class regardless of its a slightly lesser payday than some popular guy who previously got beatdown in a tune-up fight.
If he keeps avoiding certain matchups and making excuses, history wont remember that he was well-paid as much as the fact that he was a ducker.
What has Margarito done to make people think so highly of him? Did I seriously miss something where he went around owning the best for years and seriously missed it?
Floyd seems to think Big Payday = Superior Fighter, so as long as he gets big paydays that makes him the pound for pound best. Which is complete bull and a total ghetto mentality. Yes, boxing is business, but first and foremost it should be a sport, and that means fighting the top guys in your weight class regardless of its a slightly lesser payday than some popular guy who previously got beatdown in a tune-up fight.
If he keeps avoiding certain matchups and making excuses, history wont remember that he was well-paid as much as the fact that he was a ducker.
this WILL be a big money fight, Margarito will get a crazy amount of mexican fans supporting him to beat the #1 p4p fighter in the world. and u sure ass hell know arum wants a Mexican to win that fight who he can then make into an incredible super star, arum wants to finance this. i want to see this. you want to see this. floyd doesnt want to do it. but i dont blame him he may be out of his league (size wise, i know floyd is insane boxing wise, i wont deny it)
I want to see it? Hahahahahaha, the fuck I do. While this fight may get a large mexican fanbase to toon into it doesn't mean anybody else would. I know I wouldn't buy this fight unless Mayweather shows some major issues against Judah, and that is doubtful.
this WILL be a big money fight, Margarito will get a crazy amount of mexican fans supporting him to beat the #1 p4p fighter in the world. and u sure ass hell know arum wants a Mexican to win that fight who he can then make into an incredible super star, arum wants to finance this. i want to see this. you want to see this. floyd doesnt want to do it. but i dont blame him he may be out of his league (size wise, i know floyd is insane boxing wise, i wont deny it)
right on the mark.
technically it is probably floyd "ducking", but being that margarito is not a draw compared to floyd's other options what the hell do you expect?
I'm glad somebody else sees it like this. I honestly think this is a complete joke. I don't give 2 shits about Margarito. I think he's a pretty good fighter who can make some noise but what has he done to earn a shot at the #1 P4P? PBF has at least 3 names that are easily a better match for us to see as fight fans.
I think the better question is why should Floyd fight Margarito? I mean, if anybody's doing the dodging of the two it's simply PBF because Margarito has nothing to lose. The guy is wallowing in something that doesn't even remotely resemble a spot light. He's of little to no importance in my eyes, especially with the matches I'd sooner see PBF in.
right on the mark.
technically it is probably floyd "ducking", but being that margarito is not a draw compared to floyd's other options what the hell do you expect?
Originally posted by klitschko85: Now Zab on the other hand is used to this weight, I know that hes training his butt off. Judah is harder punches, and I think that if he puts the pressure earlier in the fight against floyd then floyd will have trouble. However it is hard for me to see a ko or a decision, i think it can go either way actually. Again, floyd will not be as fast, coming from the start at 130, he might even lose a little stmina at 147 as well. I will predict Judah tko11.
you may be correct about all that stuff such as mayweather not being as used to his weight as judah.. but that makes no difference toward mayweathers obvious superiority as far as technique. JUDAH IS NOT TRAINING HIS ASS OFF! i dunno where the fuck u got that information but hes not training any harder than he was for his last fight..
lol,bullshit, Mayweather ran his mouth after Zab lost, but just trying to act hard cause he knew the gomez fight was already a done deal. So if you think Margarito is the one dodging then you need to get your facts stright.
sure, i should bow to your all powerful knowledge :rolleyes: if margirito wanted to fight floyd, he would have stepped out agianst gomez. but he didnt
I think the better question is why should Floyd fight Margarito? I mean, if anybody's doing the dodging of the two it's simply PBF because Margarito has nothing to lose. The guy is wallowing in something that doesn't even remotely resemble a spot light. He's of little to no importance in my eyes, especially with the matches I'd sooner see PBF in.
tony is dodging. floyd offered him a fight after zab lost, but tony decided to stay with gomez, a fight which really proved alot :rolleyes:
oh and anyone who believes that 7 million fight deal must be an idiot
lol,bullshit, Mayweather ran his mouth after Zab lost, but just trying to act hard cause he knew the gomez fight was already a done deal. So if you think Margarito is the one dodging then you need to get your facts stright.
I dont even know why he is fighting Judah, he should fight one of the real champion like Baldomir or Margarito.
It no like the WWE where they call out for a fight and it happens.
Judah said to PBF to sign the contract before Baldomir fight and he should go by the contract.
It not just fighting there is the business part. Even if Zab gotten KO in the first round PBF still have to fight him.
About the dodging thing I can not really tell right now til after Judah fight to now if PBF is really dodging Margaito
I dont even know why he is fighting Judah, he should fight one of the real champion like Baldomir or Margarito.
If he takes the Baldmoir fight, then everyone says he is fighting a bum.
He takes the Judah fight and he is fighting a bum.
Even if he takes apart Cotto or Margarito and makes it look easy, then they weren't ever really that good.
If he fights and destroys TZU then Tzu was too old.
If he fights and destroys Hatton, (he might get credit) or he might just be british hype that defeated an old version of Tzu.
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You can take everything away from Floyd if you want.
prophecy: mayweather will not fight margarito after he beats zab judah...so zab to resurrect his career after another loss will fight margarito, and margarito will knock him out in 6 rds after zab runs for 5 rds..then mayweather will fight hatton and then cotto, and fade into boxing history....margarito will end up fighting vargas on a superfight ..in which margarito will tko vargas in 4 rds.....
call me crazy but i can really see that happening seriously
dude. you have to realize that that offer is total bullshit. all you need is common sense. the belt for the undisputed championship of the world is being fought for a grand purse of 7 mil. just think about it, and you know the offer is shit. also, again, floyd offered tony a fight after zab lost and tony turned it down. he calls everyone out, but backs down when they will agree to fight
I know its not what u wanna hear... but it makes perfect sense.. Bob Arum.... promoter of floyd and margarito disclosed the information, not Margarito's people.
In terms of making sense,
the "undisputed" championship of the world was going to be targeted primarily to a minority in the World (African-Americans).
Floyd vs Sharmba which also targeted that small group, got nearly 4 million, low risk, low interest, low rewards fight.
Margarito vs Floyd would have targeted two demographic groups,
offered more risk, more rewards, and considerably larger audience.
Floyd offering that fight after Zab lost was a face-saving move and you know it. How are you going to offer a fighter a fight when he is obliged to fullfill a contract?
Margarito was gonna make almost nothing to fight floyd had he breached the contract with Gomez he would have been not at 0... but at Minus money.
Don't get me wrong, i dont know if Margarito will indeed beat Floyd or not. But its an intriguin matchup that should be made. If Floyd wants to prove he is the best welterweight then he has to fight Tony, who deserves the opportunity if that is the case.
If he doesnt wanna prove... then he can move back down to 140 and try to prove it there cus he hasnt yet.
I happen to think that your wrong. See i am as one of the few feel an upset coming. I think jaws will be dropped when we all see judah with his hands raised. Ok I admit that i am a Floyd hater, the reason why i think he'll lose is because floyd is still not used to 147 as of yet i mean did you notice how much slower he was against mitchell then his previous bouth against gatti, bruesels and corley?
Now Zab on the other hand is used to this weight, I know that hes training his butt off. Judah is harder punches, and I think that if he puts the pressure earlier in the fight against floyd then floyd will have trouble. However it is hard for me to see a ko or a decision, i think it can go either way actually. Again, floyd will not be as fast, coming from the start at 130, he might even lose a little stmina at 147 as well. I will predict Judah tko11.
7 Million
less than 4 is what floyd got against sharmba.
dude. you have to realize that that offer is total bullshit. all you need is common sense. the belt for the undisputed championship of the world is being fought for a grand purse of 7 mil. just think about it, and you know the offer is shit. also, again, floyd offered tony a fight after zab lost and tony turned it down. he calls everyone out, but backs down when they will agree to fight