Pacquiao: No fight at 132 lbs!
Monday, February 13 2006
By Nick Giongco
Manny Pacquiao insisted on Monday morning that he is not fighting Erik Morales on Sept. 16 at 132 lbs. "You can write this down. I won't fight at 132 lbs. There's going to be a fight if they agree at 130 lbs," Pacquiao told this writer as he was having a break during a business meeting. Reports that the fight is already a done deal circulated the past few days with Team Morales looking forward to the rubber match at the Sam Boyd Football Stadium in Las Vegas. Pacquiao is expected to brief by his US handlers later in the week as he is set to arrive in Los Angeles on Thursday night via Philippine Airlines in time for Saturday night's title fight between Brian Viloria and Jose Antonio Aguirre at the Aladdin Resort and Casino also in Las Vegas. Pacquiao will do the boxing commentary for the Philippine broadcast made possible by Solar Sports.
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This news just confirms that what Arum, Finkel & company have been saying is not true! Pac knows he has the last word on the rubber match.
Uh Mornacito I just skimmed through some of your posts and if you wanna talk about "following rules" then I suggest that you do the same 'cause there are statements on your past posts that would definitely guarantee you to be on BAN STATUS! so PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!!! :rolleyes:
Look all you want, you will never find a racist post made by me. Ever.
Exactly!!
What if PAC KTFO Erik again at 132?
What's next. At 133, 134, or maybe 134 1/2. :D
no erik retires for good. who would wanna see a fourth fight when everybody knows that erik was owned by pac? :rolleyes:
personaly i think this 3rd fight is really lose lose sittuation for pacman. well not lose but he cant win anything. if he beats him ok he beat damage goods that he himself damaged in a previouse fight if he losses then it will be like look he lost to some guy he completely destroid
well i think otherwise. if he wins the rubber match he proves to everybody that he is indeeed the best at 130 and more money fights to follow. if he loses, there is no shame because he lost to a great fighter.
A contract is a contract pal. Once it is signed, you comply with it no matter what. No excuses, no alibis. Just comply with it. A man who cannot fulfill his own end of the bargain to a thing that has already been signed and sworn to is a man who cannot fulfill his word.
I've said this before, if EM doesn't fulfill obligations which are due him under the contract, then PAC has no obligation to fight EM. It's a simply matter of bad faith and lame unvalidated excuses.
When EM fought Raheem he said that 135 was too big. Then when he fought PAC he said 130 is too small. Why can't EM make up his mind? Does he want to create his own weight class? lol!
I don't hate EM but going back on his word to an already signed agreement is JUST THE LOWEST OF LOWS. Even PAC complied when he was made to wear winning because it was THE CONTRACT.
If EM can't make 130, then the fight should not happen, PAC has no obligation to EM is he can't fulfill his word.
I don't know how things work at MExico, but here in my country, asking a smaller man for advantage is lame. Worse, going back to your sworn word is THE LOWEST OF LOWS.
Exactly!!
What if PAC KTFO Erik again at 132?
What's next. At 133, 134, or maybe 134 1/2. :D
Im sorry but i think Morales camp's idea of 132lbs is so stupid.
1. Morales best KO victories is @ 122lbs
2. Over 130 lbs is not the best weight for Erik Morales. (See Raheem fight 4 proof )
3. Erik cant make 130???? WHY????
a) He's not training properly?
b) He's eating too much?
c) he's drinking too much?
d) @age 29 he's still growing? :eek:
*** Not fighting for alphabet belts are cool, but fighting @132 ??
130 SuperFeatheweight
135 Lightweight
IF they fight @ 132 to which will we compare the fight?
first not all mexicans drink if thats what you were trying to say by that comment, and he went up in weight it could of changed his frame just that much . just like you think pacman can work himself and be the same at 122
I don't think it is a lose lose situation for PAC. Besides PAC doesn't need EM now, he has MAB, JMM, and other fighters to go to.
If EM is showing his true colors of not being a warrior by trying to change a contract which is already signed and sworn to, then PAC has no obligation to fight him.
Just remember, when PAC was made to wear winning gloves, he complied. The rematch clause is set at 130, all EM has to do is comply with it and yet he doesn't.
I think that's a very lame move by EM and his camp.
Also here in our country, a bigger guy asking a smaller guy for more advantage is seen as a sign of a faggot and a chicken. No offense meant but I don't know how they see things there at Mexico.
Here in our country, to ask a smaller guy for more advantage is simple lame.
whats it like to ask a bigger man to starve himself to make a weight witch for one reason or another the guy cant make. maybe morales frame changed when he went up. ive heard pacman walks around at 150 is there any true to this? if there is dont you think hecan work himself down to 132 and seeing that the night of the fight he bulks up at least 3 or 4 pounds?
Im sorry but i think Morales camp's idea of 132lbs is so stupid.
1. Morales best KO victories is @ 122lbs
2. Over 130 lbs is not the best weight for Erik Morales. (See Raheem fight 4 proof )
3. Erik cant make 130???? WHY????
a) He's not training properly?
b) He's eating too much?
c) he's drinking too much?
d) @age 29 he's still growing? :eek:
*** Not fighting for alphabet belts are cool, but fighting @132 ??
130 SuperFeatheweight
135 Lightweight
IF they fight @ 132 to which will we compare the fight?
you got a point there, but two pounds is still an advantage for erik no matter what coz arum would not ask for it in the first place if it isn't. i think pac can handle erik even at 132 lbs basing on his performance in the second fight.
however i think it isn't the weight that matters to pac but the word of honor erik gave to him. he feels that erik reneging on his promise is a disrespect to him.
i live and grew up in the philippines and there asking for an advantage or "plus" from an opponent is very disgraceful. any match or any contest must be played in equal footing. it should be fair at any rate, or the person who gets an advantage will not get the honor he wants. for filipinos, this is equivalent to cheating.
personaly i think this 3rd fight is really lose lose sittuation for pacman. well not lose but he cant win anything. if he beats him ok he beat damage goods that he himself damaged in a previouse fight if he losses then it will be like look he lost to some guy he completely destroid
I wonder why arum keep on insisting a fight at 132 and why shaw and roach goes along the same line WHILE pac keep on saying that there is NO WAY he would fight at 132 because the clause stipulate that the rubber match must happen at 130. Are they confusing us or what?
My only hope is to see another fight of pac and I don't care who his opponent is. If he wins then GOOD. If he loses then also GOOD. What I'm sure of is that he will give us another electrifying performance and it is all that matters!!! :cool:
Who is that chick in your avatar?! She's smokin'!
people will alway look twords the gloves as the reason he lost. i dont think they played a part i think morales when in in the second fight shot and pacman went in there looking his best. if pacman can do that much damage what is another 2 pounds its not like they weighed in at that limit in actuall fight night
you got a point there, but two pounds is still an advantage for erik no matter what coz arum would not ask for it in the first place if it isn't. i think pac can handle erik even at 132 lbs basing on his performance in the second fight.
however i think it isn't the weight that matters to pac but the word of honor erik gave to him. he feels that erik reneging on his promise is a disrespect to him.
i live and grew up in the philippines and there asking for an advantage or "plus" from an opponent is very disgraceful. any match or any contest must be played in equal footing. it should be fair at any rate, or the person who gets an advantage will not get the honor he wants. for filipinos, this is equivalent to cheating.
first the gloves, and now he wants pac to go up at 132 when he knows that pac wouldn't chase him there. pac even said the reason why he moved to 130 is he knew that he could beat erik even at his natural weight. and now that pac served him the worst defeat in his career, erik thinks he can save face by luring the pac to something the latter would not approve of.
people will alway look twords the gloves as the reason he lost. i dont think they played a part i think morales when in in the second fight shot and pacman went in there looking his best. if pacman can do that much damage what is another 2 pounds its not like they weighed in at that limit in actuall fight night
how has pacman been handicapped in his last fights?
first the gloves, and now he wants pac to go up at 132 when he knows that pac wouldn't chase him there. pac even said the reason why he moved to 130 is he knew that he could beat erik even at his natural weight. and now that pac served him the worst defeat in his career, erik thinks he can save face by luring the pac to something the latter would not approve of.
so you think these actions are worthy of everybody's praises? :rolleyes:
1. mab fighting every one out there except pac.
2. jmm pricing himself out of a pac fight and then decides to fight john for $30k.
3. em not honoring his word and seem to fight only when pac is handicapped.
how has pacman been handicapped in his last fights?
It always turns out ugly when someone mentions Morales, Barrera, and Marquez. Cause all the pacmans jump in and start bashing on em.
so you think these actions are worthy of everybody's praises? :rolleyes:
1. mab fighting every one out there except pac.
2. jmm pricing himself out of a pac fight and then decides to fight john for $30k.
3. em not honoring his word and seem to fight only when pac is handicapped.
I wonder why arum keep on insisting a fight at 132 and why shaw and roach goes along the same line WHILE pac keep on saying that there is NO WAY he would fight at 132 because the clause stipulate that the rubber match must happen at 130. Are they confusing us or what?
My only hope is to see another fight of pac and I don't care who his opponent is. If he wins then GOOD. If he loses then also GOOD. What I'm sure of is that he will give us another electrifying performance and it is all that matters!!! :cool:
I think pac will fight erik only at 130. his is about principle, respect and honor. arum & erik gave their word, they should be men to stand by it. betraying a pact is cowardice. manny should get the respect he deserves -- and that means arum and eric honoring the word and fight at the terms they agreed upon.
I wonder why arum keep on insisting a fight at 132 and why shaw and roach goes along the same line WHILE pac keep on saying that there is NO WAY he would fight at 132 because the clause stipulate that the rubber match must happen at 130. Are they confusing us or what?
My only hope is to see another fight of pac and I don't care who his opponent is. If he wins then GOOD. If he loses then also GOOD. What I'm sure of is that he will give us another electrifying performance and it is all that matters!!! :cool:
It always turns out ugly when someone mentions Morales, Barrera, and Marquez. Cause all the pacmans jump in and start bashing on em.
all the pacmans.. HAHAHA!LOL!
Man it's World War III up in here :D ! I know World War III is inevitable but I didn't know it was gonna get started on some internet forum(lol). I think I'm gonna let all y'all get the action and I'm just gonna sit on my lawnchair and watch everybody duke it out from the sidelines.
Just my 2cents on what has been going on with Filipinos and the Mexicanos. Both groups are to blame, no group is worse than the other when it comes to typing up smack.
However I don't get the people who get hot and heated over what is being said, if you are sensitive to what is being posted by some anonymous d*ckhead then leave and if you guys wanna hang around then learn how to roll with the punches and throw some back. Don't be a wuss and threaten other forum members of reporting what they typed up that is a b*tch move and I'm sure Morales or PAC would NOT approve of such a "Chickengay" move
No. This is a boxing forum. I'm sure there are other places where people can vent their hatred towards each other. Not here. That's why there are forum rules.