Is Zab a livelier underdog than he was before?
When the fight was first being talked about, I was leaning toward Zab to pull off a shock upset because I thought Floyd may be sleeping on him. I thought some of the pound for pound talk and thoughts of walking in and breaking Zab’s glass chin may have been on Floyd’s mind, and that he would get over confident.
Since then we saw Zab make a fool of himself in a performance that was a disgrace to himself, the titles he holds, and everyone that watched. He came in unprepared and showed little heart and character in losing to little known Carlos Baldomir.
I thought Zab’s showing in that fight was awful, but in the end, how much does it change what will actually transpire in the ring with Floyd? It was clear (as sad as it was) that Zab was completely unprepared coming into his last fight. If anything, that should give him more hunger and motivation to come in sharp and ready against Floyd.
And is it possible that in all of this, Floyd could have the idea that it will be an even bigger walk in the park than he originally thought seeing Zab outpointed by a fringe contender?
Floyd’s a smart fighter, so I’m sure he’ll come prepared, but I can’t help but wonder that in some weird way this last embarrassment for Judah may actually help him in coming in more prepared and hungry for this fight.
Zab still has the same chance to win the fight that he had before the Baldomir fight to me...and that is a punch that Floyd is suspecting. Only chance he had before and after the Tata fight.
of course it proves something. it proves that he beat a fighter that many, YOU INCLUEDED, beleived would beat him
I believed it until I remembered Judah has the mindset of a 6 year old. I hope Mayweather destroys him. And don't worry, I know Mayweather is the best fighter in the world and he will never take a fight lightly as long as he lives.
I don't care about this fight at all. If Zab wins, it proves Mayweather was way overrated. If Mayweather wins, it proves nothing. Lose-lose situation for Mayweather. But what does he care? He's only in it for the money? What money? I don't know either...cuz nobody is gonna pay to watch this shit
of course it proves something. it proves that he beat a fighter that many, YOU INCLUEDED, beleived would beat him
So, Zab was lying when he said that he properly trained, focused, and wasn't over-looking Baldozar?
It would be better said to say he was kidding himself and anyone he told that to.
Didn't he say it was King's fault? :rolleyes:
Yeah, anyone with a brain knows that wasn't Zab at his best...
If Zab had trained right and been focused Baldomir would have been out in less than 3 or 4 rounds..
So, Zab was lying when he said that he properly trained, focused, and wasn't over-looking Baldozar?
Yeah, anyone with a brain knows that wasn't Zab at his best...
If Zab had trained right and been focused Baldomir would have been out in less than 3 or 4 rounds..
But really, that just makes it more shamefull.
I'm not trying to hype Judah up, but the point in regards to this upcoming fight is that it was Judah's status and credibility that dropped, not his skill/speed/chances to win.
I agree there isn't a lot to win for Mayweather, because he's favored and expected to win.
I guess what I was getting at is that many considered Zab to be the stiffest test for Floyd right now in terms of style because of the speed and power.
Even with Zab's embarassing and disgracefull showing in his last fight, none of the above really chanes.
He's still a tough style match up, he still has the speed and power, and now I think he's going to come in hungry and desperate.
I still think Floyd should beat him, but I think what happened might actually benifit Judah in the ring in this match up, because it's more incentive for him to come in sharp, he'll be dangerous because this will be one of his last chances, and there's even more reson than before for Floyd to come in over confidnet and sleep on him.
That being said, Floyd has enough skill and smarts that it shouldn't matter. ;)
Yeah, anyone with a brain knows that wasn't Zab at his best...
If Zab had trained right and been focused Baldomir would have been out in less than 3 or 4 rounds..
I agree there isn't a lot to win for Mayweather, because he's favored and expected to win.
I guess what I was getting at is that many considered Zab to be the stiffest test for Floyd right now in terms of style because of the speed and power.
Even with Zab's embarassing and disgracefull showing in his last fight, none of the above really changes.
He's still a tough style match up, he still has the speed and power, and now I think he's going to come in hungry and desperate.
I still think Floyd should beat him, but I think what happened might actually benifit Judah in the ring in this match up, because it's more incentive for him to come in sharp, he'll be dangerous because this will be one of his last chances, and there's even more reson than before for Floyd to come in over confidnet and sleep on him.
That being said, Floyd has enough skill and smarts that it shouldn't matter. ;)
Whoever said it was a lose-lose situation for Mayweather is right. This is purely a money fight. Zab's remaining title is absolute tissue paper, just like the last belt Mayweather won, and beating Zab proves that Floyd can do what Baldomir just did. YAY! GO FLOYD! But if Zab does ANYthing remotely positive: rocks Floyd, knocks him down, makes it close, etc, then it will be a negative experience for Floyd.
Floyd has an impressive resume, but it looks more impressive on paper. Most experts and fans have Floyd at 1-1 with Castillo, in two very safe, boring fights for Floyd. And while Floyd dominated Chico, I think that Chico's corner stopped it prematurely. Those flash KD's don't phase Chico, and with his heart and power it could have been interesting down the stretch MAYBE if his corner hadn't stopped it prematurely. (Imagine if Goosen had stopped it after the 2nd KD against Castillo- where he was far more hurt than at any time against Mayweather).
The Zab fight is meaningless for Floyd, but I understand why he's still taking it- easy money, low risk; and Margarito and Hatton are not available in the 1st Q of 06. Now if he can step up and beat any two of these fighters later this year- Hatton, Margarito, or Cotto- then I think he will have had a year worthy of his talents and praise.
If the odds are REALLLY good, I might just put a LITTLE bit of cash on Judah by KO..
You know if it's like 15-1 for Judah to win by KO...
There's still a chance...
If I was betting straight...hell no..
Fuck Judah...
Mayweather can't be over-rated. He has wins over Castillo, Chavez, Corrales, etc...
I don't care about this fight at all. If Zab wins, it proves Mayweather was way overrated. If Mayweather wins, it proves nothing. Lose-lose situation for Mayweather. But what does he care? He's only in it for the money? What money? I don't know either...cuz nobody is gonna pay to watch this shit
WERE interested. Zab lost. I don't care about this fight. I didn't buy Pacquiao-Morales II after Morales lost. AND MORALES LOST TO GOOD COMPETITION.
Can you take it down a notch?
I didn't ask who cares about this fight, and I don't want the thread to turn into a "this fight sucks" rant.
I'm asking about the match up in the fight itself. Not who's buying it or who thinks it's an interesting fight.
He's only in it for the money? What money? I don't know either...cuz nobody is gonna pay to watch this shit
Well, he does get a huge cut of the purse now since Zab clowned it out.