I rank him higher than JCC because I liked his style more. I thought he had more skill than JCC, plus he was very humble. JCC was a great champion, but he was one of those who did not give credit to those who beat him. He was discrediting DLH and Tszyu after he was defeated by them.
Unfortunately JCC was a sore loser and winner, but I thought he was brilliant. He was a very smart techinical fighter. He is my #1 favorite body puncher and his arsenal of punches was remarkable.
I agree 100%
You can just wonder what if...
We haven't had that kind of talent ever since. What a shame.
Well, it´s past 10 PM here in Mexico City, too late to still be at work. Wife's not gonna be too happy about that. It's been great talking to you guys. See you soon.
Sure, see you later. Chava, the best Mexican boxer ever!
To me, Salvador is the best Mexican fighter ever. I enjoy his fights more than those of Chávez and Finito López.
I agree 100%
You can just wonder what if...
We haven't had that kind of talent ever since. What a shame.
Well, it´s past 10 PM here in Mexico City, too late to still be at work. Wife's not gonna be too happy about that. It's been great talking to you guys. See you soon.
I wish he was around longer, I have Sal as #2 after JCC. If he would have had a longer career that may have been different.
I rank him higher than JCC because I liked his style more. I thought he had more skill than JCC, plus he was very humble. JCC was a great champion, but he was one of those who did not give credit to those who beat him. He was discrediting DLH and Tszyu after he was defeated by them.
To me, Salvador is the best Mexican fighter ever. I enjoy his fights more than those of Chávez and Finito López.
I wish he was around longer, I have Sal as #2 after JCC. If he would have had a longer career that may have been different.
I never saw the post fight interview. Carlos Palomino, another ring great.
I'm pretty sure Chava was hurt. Fighters just never seem to acknowledge it. And there was also some bad blood between those two.
To me, Salvador is the best Mexican fighter ever. I enjoy his fights more than those of Chávez and Finito López.
Do you remember what Chava said in the post-fight interview by Carlos Palomino? Palomino asked Chava about Wilfredo's punch. I'll try to quote from memory.
"Efectivamente. Nunca me lastimó, pero inmediatamente se siente la pesadez de sus puños.
I never saw the post fight interview. Carlos Palomino, another ring great.
I'm pretty sure Chava was hurt. Fighters just never seem to acknowledge it. And there was also some bad blood between those two.
Ill watch the fight again tommorrow and look for that left hook, but there were many other punches that he took that proved that his chin was top caliber.
I never saw him get connected as cleanly as that time. Not by Gomez anyway.
I honestly think Chava always boxed down to the skill of the opponent in turn. I know I'm not alone in that assumption. Sal used to piss his fans off, but especially his trainer (whose name I don't remember) by not boxing at the top of his skill every time.
Watch the fight again and see if you notice this: in the 8th round, during Chava's last barrage of punches, there's this one textbook, desperation left hook that Gomez lands ever so clearly right on Sal's chin. Now, outside of Sandy Saddler, Gomez might be the single hardest puncher ever, pound for pound, in the lower divisions. And I'm telling you, that hook landed right on the spot. That single punch tells me that, besides his incredible all around ability, Chava had a chin for the ages.
Which also leads me to think that he would have been more than competitive vs. Arguello at 130, but that's a whole different story.
Ill watch the fight again tommorrow and look for that left hook, but there were many other punches that he took that proved that his chin was top caliber.
I honestly think Chava always boxed down to the skill of the opponent in turn. I know I'm not alone in that assumption. Sal used to piss his fans off, but especially his trainer (whose name I don't remember) by not boxing at the top of his skill every time.
Watch the fight again and see if you notice this: in the 8th round, during Chava's last barrage of punches, there's this one textbook, desperation left hook that Gomez lands ever so clearly right on Sal's chin. Now, outside of Sandy Saddler, Gomez might be the single hardest puncher ever, pound for pound, in the lower divisions. And I'm telling you, that hook landed right on the spot. That single punch tells me that, besides his incredible all around ability, Chava had a chin for the ages.
Which also leads me to think that he would have been more than competitive vs. Arguello at 130, but that's a whole different story.
Do you remember what Chava said in the post-fight interview by Carlos Palomino? Palomino asked Chava about Wilfredo's punch. I'll try to quote from memory.
"Efectivamente. Nunca me lastimó, pero inmediatamente se siente la pesadez de sus puños.
Yes, I have that fight. By the way, I agree with what you say about Salvador's fights. With the exception of Danny López, other premier fighters gave him some trouble. However, Chava's tenacity and skill got him the wins. Yesterday, I watched Chava vs. Rubén Castillo and scored it 143-142 for Salvador. I had it 133-133 and Chava won the last round to get the decision.
I honestly think Chava always boxed down to the skill of the opponent in turn. I know I'm not alone in that assumption. Sal used to piss his fans off, but especially his trainer (whose name I don't remember) by not boxing at the top of his skill every time.
Watch the fight again and see if you notice this: in the 8th round, during Chava's last barrage of punches, there's this one textbook, desperation left hook that Gomez lands ever so clearly right on Sal's chin. Now, outside of Sandy Saddler, Gomez might be the single hardest puncher ever, pound for pound, in the lower divisions. And I'm telling you, that hook landed right on the spot. That single punch tells me that, besides his incredible all around ability, Chava had a chin for the ages.
Which also leads me to think that he would have been more than competitive vs. Arguello at 130, but that's a whole different story.
Alfredo Layne had no chance against prime gomez, Nelson was very young and fresh, Gomez tired out very quickly. Neither of those could have beat him at 122 anyway. But I agree with the Sal Sanchez analysis, that is why I wished that there was a rematch.
I'll even say that Gómez was playing with Alfredo Layne, until the 8th round knockdown. Still, I had Gómez ahead 76-75 through 8 rounds.
I think that a prime Gómez would have defeated Nelson and would have destroyed Alfredo Layne, but I have doubts about Salvador. Still, a great "what if" rematch.
Alfredo Layne had no chance against prime gomez, Nelson was very young and fresh, Gomez tired out very quickly. Neither of those could have beat him at 122 anyway. But I agree with the Sal Sanchez analysis, that is why I wished that there was a rematch.
I think that Gomez would have regrouped and brought a different game plan, yeah sometimes his pride or confidence got the best of him and did not work in his favor, but I dont think that Gomez would fight the same fight. Either way, it would have been a great rematch.
I think that a prime Gómez would have defeated Nelson and would have destroyed Alfredo Layne, but I have doubts about Salvador. Still, a great "what if" rematch.
I think that's right on the spot. I had it 57 - 57 from round 2 to 7, which goes to show that, indeed, Gomez was holding his own quite nicely. It definately wasn't the blowout some people thought it was, but then again, none of Sanchez's fights were.
Do you have the fight? I've been dying to comment on one specific moment of it.
Yes, I have that fight. By the way, I agree with what you say about Salvador's fights. With the exception of Danny López, other premier fighters gave him some trouble. However, Chava's tenacity and skill got him the wins. Yesterday, I watched Chava vs. Rubén Castillo and scored it 143-142 for Salvador. I had it 133-133 and Chava won the last round to get the decision.
You know, I used to say the same and still say that. The thing is that the more I see of Salvador Sánchez, the better I think he is. Sometimes I think that it was just a bad style for Gómez. Chava was a big, strong featherweight who never gave up on his fight plan. Gómez was similar to Trinidad. He had too much confidence in his power. Still, Wilfredo was competitive in the first fight, so in a rematch he would have done even better. All in all, I think that Salvador would have gotten a decision in a rematch, but a Wilfredo win was possible, too.
I think that Gomez would have regrouped and brought a different game plan, yeah sometimes his pride or confidence got the best of him and did not work in his favor, but I dont think that Gomez would fight the same fight. Either way, it would have been a great rematch.
Indeed. I also admit that Sánchez beat Gómez. No excuses. However, I thought the fight was very competitive. I had it 67-65 Sánchez at the time of the stoppage.
I think that's right on the spot. I had it 57 - 57 from round 2 to 7, which goes to show that, indeed, Gomez was holding his own quite nicely. It definately wasn't the blowout some people thought it was, but then again, none of Sanchez's fights were.
Do you have the fight? I've been dying to comment on one specific moment of it.
I wish that rematch would have happened!
You know, I used to say the same and still say that. The thing is that the more I see of Salvador Sánchez, the better I think he is. Sometimes I think that it was just a bad style for Gómez. Chava was a big, strong featherweight who never gave up on his fight plan. Gómez was similar to Trinidad. He had too much confidence in his power. Still, Wilfredo was competitive in the first fight, so in a rematch he would have done even better. All in all, I think that Salvador would have gotten a decision in a rematch, but a Wilfredo win was possible, too.
Indeed. I also admit that Sánchez beat Gómez. No excuses. However, I thought the fight was very competitive. I had it 67-65 Sánchez at the time of the stoppage.
I wish that rematch would have happened!
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