I Got Money that Says Chaves will Beat Pac!!!

that is what i mean, pacman definitely shows more one punch ability than mayweather. mayweather isn't a one punch knockout kind of guy, he is an accumulative punches kind of guy. i am not saying mayweather is weak because he is not weak. shane mosley has a good knockout ratio too but i wouldnt call him a power puncher. he is strong but not a one punch knockout threat. back to mayweather, i think he has underrated power. chavez was clearly taking a lot of damage, enough so that the corner stopped it, which does still constitute a knockout I think. maybe not the way i worded it earlier though. mayweather did enough damage to chavez where chavez's corner didnt think it was best for him to continue. and i would think pacman would do this too. of course i am just a couple days removed from seeing him knock out erik morales, whom i think of as tougher than jesus chavez. barrera vs. morales 1 and 2 were quite explosive matches and they are two of the toughest boxers i have ever seen.

floyd mayweather knocked out 'chaves' too. he was certainly a weaker puncher than pacman at super featherweight. it should be an exciting fight though for sure. maybe you would be right, but i dont think so. He didnt knock him out, the corner made him quit. Also I dont know about that power thing. Floyd was mighty powerful at 130. He was a big guy there and it wasnt one punch from Floyd. It was the multitude of them and from the different angles with uppercuts and such. Can Pac duplicate that? Yes but it wont be the same as if a very skilled boxer did it from different angles.

like i said, i agree with you that the guy isn't invincible... i'll give you that... it's a fact... but you also should point that chavez isn't invincible either, and accept that pac has power and could very well be a problem to chavez... make it a two-sided affair, not jut one :D The reason why I make it one sided is because most of the picks and arguments will come from the Pac side as you have noticed on this thread. Most of them said Pac would kill him. Therefore if you pick the underdog, then you have to state the reason why, so it may look one sided but your just trying to validate your pick. I also said that it could go either way. Pac is scary, not so much because of his power but because he's a lefty. Thats what people fail to talk about. A punch always hurts more from a lefty because alot of times it is a blind punch and you dont see it coming, or you can see it and still not be able to get out of range of it like you can agiainst a righty. Pac is a beast but he wouldnt be as dominant if he wasnt a lefty. The same for guys like Tarver and Zab. The straight left is devestating to guys and its more then just the pure power

That was one punch and it was a perfect punch. The rest of the fight he didnt hurt Chaves at all and he was getting handled by a guy with one arm floyd mayweather knocked out 'chaves' too. he was certainly a weaker puncher than pacman at super featherweight. it should be an exciting fight though for sure. maybe you would be right, but i dont think so.

like i said, i agree with you that the guy isn't invincible... i'll give you that... it's a fact... but you also should point that chavez isn't invincible either, and accept that pac has power and could very well be a problem to chavez... make it a two-sided affair, not jut one :D Dude NOWHERE did DLT say chavez was anything like invincible.This just lets me know you guys arent being reasonable about this and probably arent even reading most of what he says.Youre taking it as an attack on Pac when DLT said it could go either way.

How do you figure that? Just because I didnt pick Pac? What, does everyone have to pick him to win every fight? You act like I said that Chaves is 10x better and would win easily. I said it could go either way but my money would be on Chaves for the fact that he is naturally the much bigger guy and he is a better fighter then alot of people think. This is by no means a knock on Pac. This is just giving Chaves props because I think hes better then alot of guys think Everybodys high off of Pac.I understand why,but youre not gonna get a lot of reasonnable answer right now ,more like "PAC KTFO ANYBODY IN HISTORY...EVER!!!11!" Id love to see this match up,You make good points about chavez.It could really go either way.

Why does everyone underestimate this guy. He gave Floyd problems and he gave Morales all he could handle with one arm. This would definatly not be a easy fight for Pac by no means good points.

the point is nobody gave pac a chance to beat MAB and erik before... and now he did, people find someone to beat pac... im not speaking for everybody bro, i qouted your post and reacted on what you said... you said all we remember is the fights between pac-mab and erik 2... about giving props to a fighter, it's like taking away something from pac's wins over the mexican legends... like i said, you like to see pac at his not-so-best performance adn compare to chavez... morales was a natural 130 lber... he beat erik convincingly... :D Im not saying they were flukes at all. They were very legitimate. Im just pointing out that the guy isnt invincible and its definatly not out the realm of possibility to think he could have alot of trouble with a good fighter like Chaves

just give your money to charity where it could be of big help. :D dont waste the allowance that your mom's givin you :D Oh, how original?

well that's the problem with you bro... you don't appreciate good fights of pac instead you concentrate on those fights wherein he didn't do best... nice way of making your point for a chvez win... How do you figure that? Just because I didnt pick Pac? What, does everyone have to pick him to win every fight? You act like I said that Chaves is 10x better and would win easily. I said it could go either way but my money would be on Chaves for the fact that he is naturally the much bigger guy and he is a better fighter then alot of people think. This is by no means a knock on Pac. This is just giving Chaves props because I think hes better then alot of guys think

If they fight then I would put my money on Chaves. This guy is a real 130 pounder that would not be hurt easily by Pac and he is a bully that I think could push Pac around. He wouldnt let Pac breathe. It could go either way but theres something about Chaves that I have always liked. I would also pick him against MAB and I think he wouldve beat Morales if he didnt hurt his arm. Still out of the 3, Morales matches up against Chaves the best and I think the other 2 would have a tougher time with him and thats why MAB is trying to stay away from him just give your money to charity where it could be of big help. :D dont waste the allowance that your mom's givin you :D

nah, that's one point you have messed up... :p pac fights fr boxing... does not engage in personal grudges and he's a sport... never hates... just fights everyone... :D same for Chaves. No way he sends insults to anyone

speed only matters if your a boxer and your going to be moving. Pac will be coming right at Chaves and that will play right into Chaves hands. Pac is too small. This guy is a natural 130 pounder. It wont look the same as Pac fighting Morales and MAB. This guy will be big and strong and he will push Pac around. You guys all remeber Pacs fight against MAB and his 2nd fight against Morales but I have seen a few fights were he didnt look as sharpe, like against Jukko, the Marquez fight after the begining, and definatly the first Morales fight. This guy isnt unbeatable and Chaves matches up with him very well. No matter what, this wouldnt be a walk in the park for Pac

i'll use a quote when referring to chavez...it was used by floyd talking about gatti..."gatti is a b-level fighter...I'm an a-level fighter..." thats what chaves is to pac-man, everybody knows it

That was not what I saw, he had all kinds of problems against Morales jab and counter straight. His face looks flushed and he couldn't get inside Morales. Just imagine what PAC would do to him. Whatever man, everyone knows that was a close fight and he only had one arm from the 4th round on. He was hitting him alot with one arm

Why does everyone underestimate this guy. He gave Floyd problems and he gave Morales all he could handle with one arm. This would definatly not be a easy fight for Pac by no means

That's funny, Morales rocked Chavez when Morales' punches are like pillow compared to PAC's bombs. No way Chavez at 130 can beat PAC. Just too slow, too much of a slugger, perfect for PAC. No head movement, very little footwork, average handspeed, of course he has power, but the problem is... standing toe to toe with PAC is not a good idea. That was one punch and it was a perfect punch. The rest of the fight he didnt hurt Chaves at all and he was getting handled by a guy with one arm

you must be out of your damn mind

i hope you are kidding