the reason is OSCAR DELA HOYA! he will price them out of the fight...I know how that guy works he is shady as hell.
I feel pacquiao deserves equal or even a bit more then barrera since he has put more butts in the seats then barrera has in recent fights..and since barrera wants the rematch oscar should be realistic and not try to ask for more money.
This is the only reason I dont see it happening....Golden boy and hopkins and oscar wont let it happen cause they are some greedy fools.
:(
If it does happen they want it to be in march so pacman only has 1 month of training and rest how shady is that?
Here's a good reason Marco won't want to fight Manny again. He just witnessed nearly the same thing that happened to him. Powerful bodyshots that brought Morales down to the point where he was just completely exhausted. Same thing happened to Barrera. Then moments later the fight is stopped following Manny's final assault just as did for Barrera. I think it brought back some painful memories that he knows could happen again. Infact I think it happened all to similar(minus Barrera putting up less of a fight), and around the time the rematch has been in the air.
Well, the undisputed champion has to take the bigger split, but this situation is perfect for Pacman since he will take the all the belts from MAB and be the unidisputed champeen of the world. Then there will be no ill talk of who is the best and who is the champ. He will be on top for a good while so more money will be made. **** no I ain't with gayboy productions. I just want Pacman to go down in history as the greatest 130lber ever :boxing:
I hear ya.
I just hope the fight happens. :D
^you said it yourself perfect situation for MAB not pacman hahaah are you goldenyboy oscar de la hoya on an alias?lol
Well, the undisputed champion has to take the bigger split, but this situation is perfect for Pacman since he will take the all the belts from MAB and be the unidisputed champeen of the world. Then there will be no ill talk of who is the best and who is the champ. He will be on top for a good while so more money will be made. **** no I ain't with gayboy productions. I just want Pacman to go down in history as the greatest 130lber ever :boxing:
It doesn't matter if Pac outdraws MAB, my situation is the perfect situation for MAB, and MAB will still take the higher split, AND Pacman will still fight MAB no matter what, especially when he sees all those belts.
^you said it yourself perfect situation for MAB not pacman hahaah are you goldenyboy oscar de la hoya on an alias?lol
You're not using common sense.
Let's do the math kid.
Morales easily outdraws MAB 3 to 1 in PPV.
Just imagine how much PAC will outdraw MAB... let me give you a clue...
It's like 10 to 1. lol!
PAC is the real champ. Pussy MAB is just the paper champ.
It doesn't matter if Pac outdraws MAB, my situation is the perfect situation for MAB, and MAB will still take the higher split, AND Pacman will still fight MAB no matter what, especially when he sees all those belts.
^^ dont think morales out draws MAB. i distinctly remember the hbo team commenting on how morales is bitter that MAB had the cross over appeal and got all the breaks such as the inaugral boxing after dark, the mega fight with naz etc.
LMAO what rock have you been living under? that was from like from year 2000 hahah Erik Morales has clearly been the box office draw most of his fights have been on PPV! even his fighters with chavez, and hernandez! and they done reall good! barrera has fallen off big time! his ppv is weak now. Erik Morales is the peoples champ, now its pacman...barrera used to be that champ after his win against hamed but people realized he aint a fighter like erik since he is ducking people and in it only for money.
^^ dont think morales out draws MAB. i distinctly remember the hbo team commenting on how morales is bitter that MAB had the cross over appeal and got all the breaks such as the inaugral boxing after dark, the mega fight with naz etc.
But like I said, MAB wouldn't care if he loses. Once he unifies the division, he is ****ing set, and will probably go down as the greatest Mexican fighter. That accomplishment will be magnified even more since he is already 32. And MAB being the undisputed champion would make it hard for Pacman to have a bigger/draw split.
MAB should unify all the belts first and then do a Super-Mega fight with Pacman. Think about about: Unifying the 130 division would just solidfy MAB place in history and put him over the hump and be hailed as the greatest Mexican fighter ever. Then when he fights Pacman, it doesn't matter if he loses. He can retire after really being "on top".
EDIT: Wait, when MAB fights Chavez, will he be giving up his two belts? He should just fight Barrios instead and get that WBO belt.
Note: How much was the Pac-Morales purse? And what was a split?
even more dangerous.
pac will be hungrier and more tenacious like a hungry lion, if he sees those belts hanging on MAB's shoulder
Pacquiao should get 60-40 cuz Im sure as hell Pac is the draw after what he did last night. 50-50 would be OK, but no way in hell Barrera takes more than Pac. How does fightin bums for 1 year make you EARN more than Pacquiao?!!!!
If Barrera fights Pac, it'll be the end of Marco. You can believe that. It came from me!
the problem is.... barrera is the champ and oscar is his promoter
LOL!
MAB should unify all the belts first and then do a Super-Mega fight with Pacman. Think about about: Unifying the 130 division would just solidfy MAB place in history and put him over the hump and be hailed as the greatest Mexican fighter ever. Then when he fights Pacman, it doesn't matter if he loses. He can retire after really being "on top".
EDIT: Wait, when MAB fights Chavez, will he be giving up his two belts? He should just fight Barrios instead and get that WBO belt.
Note: How much was the Pac-Morales 2 purse? And what was a split?
^wow seriously this guy is freakin good!
he can explain without offending people man you got a gift.
The only real for sure ppv draw was ERIK MORALES...but I think after last night PACMAN will be a huge draw... they just gotta take a chance on him.You're much too generous!Thanks again!
But Barerra has the belts. This is Floyd Zab all over again. If Pac wamts more money then it can't be for the belts.
pacman does not need any belt he is a prized fighter selling more seats than barrera's fights last combined hahaha...barrera would be doomed for life if he would fight pacman..
"PARA SA'YO ANG LABAN NA TO"
LSS ako dun pare hahaha!
Thanks! There can be two sides to that comment.
Barrera's performance at PPV and the gates recently (Ayala, Peden and Fana dates) are far from desireable. Contrary to what Barrios is saying, MAB's name does not appear to draw the crowds in.
On the other hand, Pacquiao's four last appearances were tremendous, though it can be said that he had Barrera in one and Morales in three (Pac-Morales 1 & 2 as well as Morales-Raheem/Pac-HVelzasquez).
Given the above, it is in the realm of speculation on whether Pacquiao has sufficient following to carry a card. Some may say he can, others may claim he cannot. Not certain.
What is certain is that in the three times that Barrera has appeared without Morales or Pac, he failed to sell. That is not in the realm of speculation. The sales records are there, testaments to that.
What Barrios may be saying is that he wants Barrera because he sees his chances as better with Barrera than with either Pac or Erik. He could be thinking that with a victory over Barrera (and I am not saying this can happen; only Barrios, perhaps, is seeing that it can happen, otherwise, why want MAB?), he can later face Pac with much improved credentials and a bigger payday, than he would have if he faced Pac first, lost, then face MAB. Astute? Maybe.
Just maybe. Because, what if he loses to MAB? Where will that get him?
So, Barrios has a title. WBO. Peden had a title. The Peden fight was a unification match. What Barrios and Barrera shall have, shall similarly be so--unification, if the gods of the alphabets bless them. But what makes Barrios think he and Barrera could do better than Barrera-Peden? How much better is the Barrios name to the Peden name? 1,000...5,000....10,000...20,000 more PPV buys than the Peden fight?
Barrios is not in any position to chose. Beggars are not chosers. If, by some chance, Pac thinks about him, he should thank his stars. Or, if MAB does so. Erik, too.
Barrios got the interview because of his alphabet title, not because he is Barrios. Morales and Pac get airtime and ink for being who they are.
Thanks again!
^wow seriously this guy is freakin good!
he can explain without offending people man you got a gift.
The only real for sure ppv draw was ERIK MORALES...but I think after last night PACMAN will be a huge draw... they just gotta take a chance on him.
Wow this guy is good...
here is barrios recent comment from yesterday after watching the pacman fight....
“Barrera, of course, because he has a real name in boxing is a real star, he can be the head of any boxing show. bPacquiao is a tremendous fighter, but he does not have the same big name. Of course, he defeated Barrera and Morales and is a dangerous man. But if I can choose, I would say Barrera. He is for real; he is a tremendous challenge, a real legend. I want Barrera, man”.-barriosThanks! There can be two sides to that comment.
Barrera's performance at PPV and the gates recently (Ayala, Peden and Fana dates) are far from desireable. Contrary to what Barrios is saying, MAB's name does not appear to draw the crowds in.
On the other hand, Pacquiao's four last appearances were tremendous, though it can be said that he had Barrera in one and Morales in three (Pac-Morales 1 & 2 as well as Morales-Raheem/Pac-HVelzasquez).
Given the above, it is in the realm of speculation on whether Pacquiao has sufficient following to carry a card. Some may say he can, others may claim he cannot. Not certain.
What is certain is that in the three times that Barrera has appeared without Morales or Pac, he failed to sell. That is not in the realm of speculation. The sales records are there, testaments to that.
What Barrios may be saying is that he wants Barrera because he sees his chances as better with Barrera than with either Pac or Erik. He could be thinking that with a victory over Barrera (and I am not saying this can happen; only Barrios, perhaps, is seeing that it can happen, otherwise, why want MAB?), he can later face Pac with much improved credentials and a bigger payday, than he would have if he faced Pac first, lost, then face MAB. Astute? Maybe.
Just maybe. Because, what if he loses to MAB? Where will that get him?
So, Barrios has a title. WBO. Peden had a title. The Peden fight was a unification match. What Barrios and Barrera shall have, shall similarly be so--unification, if the gods of the alphabets bless them. But what makes Barrios think he and Barrera could do better than Barrera-Peden? How much better is the Barrios name to the Peden name? 1,000...5,000....10,000...20,000 more PPV buys than the Peden fight?
Barrios is not in any position to chose. Beggars are not chosers. If, by some chance, Pac thinks about him, he should thank his stars. Or, if MAB does so. Erik, too.
Barrios got the interview because of his alphabet title, not because he is Barrios. Morales and Pac get airtime and ink for being who they are.
Thanks again!
i am not changing the subject.... you stated also that "he is a pussy and his victorys BLAH BLAH" you know what im talkin about dont come with that mielda to me.... so what good victorys did Barrera had? tell me!
hey undfeated
I think the guy means that barrera has turned into a pussy because he knows he is hanging on a hair. Barrera is being promoted right..so he can make the most of his career he is not the guy he was before...everyone remembers the barrera who beat HAMED...but it seems oscar knows he can make money of barrera and make him fight guys who dont show much challenge...ayala, fana, peden all good guys but not a challenge.He beat morales and its because he knows morales too well and he knows how to beat him and take his punch but he knows he cant figure out pacman.
I really lost respect for barrera with that comment saying why fight pacman? I dont want morales left overs.
That is lame.
Now he seriously aint gonna fight him, its all about money in oscar and barrera's eyes its about the money and the belts because they figure with the wars with morales and the win over Hamed barrera doesnt have to prove himself anymore...they are wrong.
Also the word is Barrera will even fight a ring rusted hamed before a pacman what a shame.
That is why I always liked morales better and morales didnt fight dirty compared to barrera when he fought pacman.
There are recent examples, some particularly involving Barrera, that belts take second place to reputation:
Barrera faced Fana for a belt then unified two belts by beating Peden. The interest (as reflected in PPV and gate sales), lumped together, does not compare with either one of the two Pac-Morales meetings that were fought for a belt that is a non-belt ("International" title, which makes one a "contender" for the championship title and not a champion. Anyone ever heard of a "contender belt"? It's strange but they do have one...er, many. For each division.)
When Pac won over Barrera all he took home was his paycheck (after expenses and taxes) and no belt. Barrera had earlier thrown away his WBC leather so the fight was for a non-belt. The Ring magazine came to the rescue later and gave Pac its belt, in Manila, not in the fight arena.
Here's another indicator. There's a Jr. Lightweight "WORLD" title fight in March. How many has heard about it? Jorge Barrios shall be defending his title against an opponent whose name is still to be announced (TBA). Now, how many times has anyone heard of a champion with a scheduled title defense against an unknown challenger. Just in case there are those who missed the information and there's a good chance many have, the fight is slated to be at MGM Grand. For every ten reams of newsprint spent on the Pac-Morales non-belt date, Barrios vs. TBA (who is going to be nameless even if his name is announced) for a "world" crown is lucky to have gotten half a page.
Still another. In the Zab-Baldomir fight, IBF bigwigs came to the arena, sat at ringside, expecting Judah to win. Two weeks after Baldomir won, the IBF declared Judah as still owner of its belt because Baldomir did not pay the sanctioning fee. Zab may still have IBF's belt (and similarly WBA's), but he ain't champion. Baldomir is.
Belts, anyone?
Wow this guy is good...
here is barrios recent comment from yesterday after watching the pacman fight....
“Barrera, of course, because he has a real name in boxing is a real star, he can be the head of any boxing show. bPacquiao is a tremendous fighter, but he does not have the same big name. Of course, he defeated Barrera and Morales and is a dangerous man. But if I can choose, I would say Barrera. He is for real; he is a tremendous challenge, a real legend. I want Barrera, man”.-barrios
I think the ball is firmly in Barrera's court as far as this fight is concerned.
Pacquiao has proven he isn't afraid to fight anyone.
Barrera, Marquez, Morales twice, with one scrub inbetween is an impressive list.
This fight will probably be a 50/50 split. These guys need each other to make big money.
There's a good $4-$5 million to be made off this fight and split between these two guys.
There's nobody else that either of them can match up with that will bring that sort of money to the table.
The potential snag definitely won't come from Pac, it might come from Barrera.
If Barrera's interested in making the most money he possibly can he will fight Pac, if he's more worried about his health he'll move up in weight and fight Chavez for less money and a belt at 135 lbs to try and make history.
Barrera's kind of screwed here. He got smoked by Pac the last time, it's not often someone avenges a thorough thrashing like that. So it's either take the big payday and get pummeled by Pac again, or move up in weight and have to listen to everyone call him a coward.
Excellent synopsis.
Don't change the subject.
Pussy Barrera insulted PAC and when PAC challenged him to back up his insult, he goes running to Hoya, what a coward!
In this new era of boxing. Reputation and results of your career culminates as recognition as to who is the real champ.
i am not changing the subject.... you stated also that "he is a pussy and his victorys BLAH BLAH" you know what im talkin about dont come with that mielda to me.... so what good victorys did Barrera had? tell me!