why a lot of great amateurs never made it as pros ?

where did u box amateur and what pros did u spar/ let me know ICE i boxed in France , obviously , in belgium and holland (as a kickboxer) . i fought in the university championships and the amateurs , i hold titles in both. i sparred a few domestic pros like frederic esther and world champ khalid rahilou (who beat frankie randall) quartey and winky were in the gym when i just started boxing , but i never sparred them i was way to small and green at the time(quartey was famous for tryin to knock anybody out in the gym anyway)

where did u box amateur and what pros did u spar/ let me know ICE

ALSO.. it is a common theme that just because you are a great amateur doesnt mean u will be a great pro.... but... I mean, if you are a great amateru there is a very good chance.... Look at all the champs from the last 20 years... most of them had very good amateur careers... when u are dealing with so many guys it is bound to happen that some will not make it... but there is a HUGE list of guys that were great amateurs that went pro and made it... JONES, FORREST, MOSLEY, TZYU etc

TINO no you are wrong my man..MANY people have an impression of amateurs that it is a baby game or something..... trust me the best amateurs are good, tough fighters who can dome about damage ICE , every morning i see a scar next to my eye and a broken nose that remind me that amateur boxing is no baby game . i was a feared KO artist in the amateurs but when i sparred seasoned pros they most of the times would let me fire my bullets and then use their superior stamina to outwork me . thing i noticed too is the use of body punching . risky in the amateur cause it may not be seen by the judges , but a great weapon to take the wind out of a fighter in the pros

The thing a bout the amateurs that makes it so tough.... It's not so easy to scout out yuor foe...as, especially early on, you may not even know who you were fighting. Also....no picking & choosing your opponents, you have to beat the best in order to win anything. Once you've reached that level, you keep fighting the best. Take Miguel Cotto, just as an example.....His first few professional foes were complete bums when compared to the excellent fighters he had to face at th end of his amateur career.

And there was no headgear. I remember the "crossing over" period....where it was optional. It was worn, at some amatuer events. I have a clip of Duane Bobick against Larry Holmes (Olympic Trials) & they were wearing headgear. Maybe that was because it wasn't an international bout ?

TINO no you are wrong my man..MANY people have an impression of amateurs that it is a baby game or something..... trust me the best amateurs are good, tough fighters who can dome about damage

anybody can beat anybody in the amateurs if youre smart enough to score and run . plus the judging is suspect to say the least at the world level Amateurs were different in those days. They still didn't give credit for a knockdown.....but there was certainly none of the computerized crap. A lot of the amateurs fought more like pros, back then.

He beat Mike McCallum at the World Championships! He was the man for a good three year period from 74 to 76.Also put Michael Dokes in his place at the Pan-Ams.Roger Leonard ended his string of AAU titles.

He beat Mike McCallum at the World Championships! anybody can beat anybody in the amateurs if youre smart enough to score and run . plus the judging is suspect to say the least at the world level

Probably what happened with Bernard Taylor and Jimmy Clark. In the case of Howard Davis Jr, couldn't really adapt to the pro way of things. howard dvis jr lacked strenght and size IMO

Probably what happened with Bernard Taylor and Jimmy Clark. In the case of Howard Davis Jr, couldn't really adapt to the pro way of things. Clint Jackson, too.

Probably what happened with Bernard Taylor and Jimmy Clark. In the case of Howard Davis Jr, couldn't really adapt to the pro way of things.

yes , why ? you see great amateur talents who just cant reach the world level as pros . i know the fights are longer and no headgear and stuff , but even the amateur KO artist seem to lost their power in the pros . i think the slower pace of the pro and the fights and the need to do damage to win the rounds is to blame . any ideas ? Some get burnt out in the amateurs. Some peak, physically too early..& they may have been stronger than their amateur rivals, but aren't as strong as the men they face in the pros.