It's downright comical how some of you boys want to compare Ettienne to Liston. 2 yrs after Tyson Ettienne was being knocked down by the breeze from Brock's punches. The guy has some kind of neurological disorder.
Liston, regardless of how you rank him among the greats, was an all time great talent and physical speciman with a solid chin.
Tell you what, get in a traditional orthodox boxing stance, now jump back off your leading left leg as you deliver a crossing right hook. Nobody doubts Liston was hit, but that was the popcorn punch Liston was looking for to lay down. Hell, Ali should've been DQed in the bout as he refused to go to the neutral corner and kept Sonny from getting up even IF Sonny had wanted to get up.
Add in that Sonny quit on his stool after 6 rounds in the first fight, and you have a BS series that was long on hysterics and short of substance. Liston was then killed the week before he was due to testify before Congress. Your great aunt Matilda could see the rot in boxing back before you boys was even in diapers yet.
22 yr old Mike Tyson would've made porkpie outta 22-23 yr old hysterical young Clay that fought Liston. That boy was still too green to take on a legit champ as Henry Cooper had shown.
================Listen to this crap:
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Originally Posted by LondonRingRules
Lessee, if this thing is certified, it means Valuev did something that Toney couldn't accomplish, he beat Ruiz as expected. Don't you know Toney is in the middle of a full on Buffet Blast Out about now, burying all his troubles in the infinite recesses of his unchartered, unchecked gut!
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Originally Posted by LondonRingRules
Funny feller. Toney can't even punch his way out of his KFC bucket. Now if Rahman does manage to land his right hand, I guarantee you he'll punch Toney through that KFC bucket!========================
** Ah, now this here feller knows his stuff if he's posting the best of me. A minor correction needs to be made. I don't hate on Toney, I'm just funnin' around with his lardarse just like I did so many years ago on the job site when another fatboy champ shot off his mouth in my direction.
Here's some new ones for you boys:
Toney don't need no championship titles no more, he's got the championship titties........Tranvestites no longer come into the doc's office asking for breast implants. They want the Toney implants......
Did you hear about the only time Toney's ever been stopped?
KFC was on strike!
I've been trying to act civil with you for days...all I get in return is a slap in the face.
That's what you get for being a dick for 6 months.
You tried the "lets be civil" trick before when you sent me that message asking me not to tell anyone you had returned as "Infamous" after "In this Corner" was banned.
Within a week you were back at it, same old boring flaming.
I see no reason to believe it's any different now.
hahaha I admit that was a funny comment but at least Wlad beat an up and coming, ever dangerous fighter in Peter even if he isn't the best technically. Rahman was giftwrapped the title, so no respect to him and Byrd has fought nobodies. I can't believe I'm saying this...Ruiz has fought and "beaten" the best level of competition..Oh god.
Ruiz hasn't won a fight convincingly since beating Rahman. He was humiliated by Jones, lost to Golota, was made to look foolish by Toney, and lost to Valuev (in a close and sloppy fight).
Wlad didn't look the LEAST BIT impressive in falling all over the ring yet AGAIN in that fight with Peter. He has several bad stoppage losses, and was this close to having it happen again.
I'm not trying to say Toney's undisputed and leagues above these guys, but he's certianly one of the best of a bad bunch.
once again I wasn't the one who started shit. I sent you a message to see who you thought would win between those fighters I mentioned. All I said is you don't post there, you're the one who started the shit. LIKE USUAL, when I'm trying to be civil with you.
Trying to be civil to me?
You go out of your way to troll back in here with new accounts every time you're banned, and you reintroduce yourself by jumping in flaming.
It's 90% of what you do.
And then all of a sudden we're cool?
Like I said, you want to speak civil to me, do it here on a regular basis without going pre teen in random bursts.
Yeah, most talented, but he hasn't beaten anyone of note so we can't put him up at the top just yet.
Who has beat anyone of note at Heavyweight?
The division is garbage, and anyone with an ounce of common sense knows JT's one of the best at present.
But Rahman's going to punch him through a KFC bucket?
Come on.
And do me a favor ITC / Infamous / Suga Shane / No mas / Soliliguy
Stop sending me messages.
You don't troll after me talking shit, apologize, start doing it again and then send my messages like we're cool.
You're an ass, and you go out of your way to act like one 90% of the time. You get banned, and then you come back talking more shit than boxing under a new name.
You want to talk civil to me? Try doing it here in the forum and make it a constant.
This on again off again spitefull asshole routine is tiresome.
I agree that he has a complete hatred for James Toney that is unwarranted but this guy definitely knows his shit & I don't think he hates Toney as a fighter as much as he hates him as a heavyweight. I know I don't "love" the guy, he's dominating his B opponents but he shows a complete and utter disregard for the sweet science by coming in looking like a fatass. But check his Boxing History posts, man knows his shit!
Fatass Toney with a plumber's crack is twice as skilled as any of those pretenders with "titles".
He's one of the best fighters in the division, and brings some much needed excitement.
A lot of people know a lot about boxing history. That doesn't mean they aren't morons.
You don't know who he is do you? OK, fair enough.
I don't know, and I don't care.
What I've read from him is crap. He flies of on a tangent calling James Toney a whale etc with complete disregard for his HOF status as a fighter. He hates him like he banged his mother.
Listen to this crap:
Originally Posted by LondonRingRules
Lessee, if this thing is certified, it means Valuev did something that Toney couldn't accomplish, he beat Ruiz as expected. Don't you know Toney is in the middle of a full on Buffet Blast Out about now, burying all his troubles in the infinite recesses of his unchartered, unchecked gut!
Funny feller. Toney can't even punch his way out of his KFC bucket. Now if Rahman does manage to land his right hand, I guarantee you he'll punch Toney through that KFC bucket!
Quality takes there for sure.
:rolleyes:
I can tell by his style of posting, and of course the quoting which only Roberto does.
I can also tell He takes the piss with his posts when He posts here. He knows his boxing no doubt, and I always laugh when posters slag him :eek:. If only they knew...
I haven't visited that site nearly as frequently as I have in the past, but "Roberto" seemed to be one of the core members there, and from what I can recall, it definately seemed like he knew what he talking about when it came to this sport & it's great history.
In my opinion it looked like it was hard enough to knock Liston down but he probably should have gotten up. He was caught right smack on the chin it looked like and he didnt see it coming at all.
It's downright comical how some of you boys want to compare Ettienne to Liston. 2 yrs after Tyson Ettienne was being knocked down by the breeze from Brock's punches. The guy has some kind of neurological disorder.
Liston, regardless of how you rank him among the greats, was an all time great talent and physical speciman with a solid chin.
Tell you what, get in a traditional orthodox boxing stance, now jump back off your leading left leg as you deliver a crossing right hook. Nobody doubts Liston was hit, but that was the popcorn punch Liston was looking for to lay down. Hell, Ali should've been DQed in the bout as he refused to go to the neutral corner and kept Sonny from getting up even IF Sonny had wanted to get up.
Add in that Sonny quit on his stool after 6 rounds in the first fight, and you have a BS series that was long on hysterics and short of substance. Liston was then killed the week before he was due to testify before Congress. Your great aunt Matilda could see the rot in boxing back before you boys was even in diapers yet.
22 yr old Mike Tyson would've made porkpie outta 22-23 yr old hysterical young Clay that fought Liston. That boy was still too green to take on a legit champ as Henry Cooper had shown.
I agree with you completely.
Great post Roberto !
Roberto?
Ah, I thought LRR's "======" looked familiar to me for some reason, and I was also wondering if that was the same guy who posts elsewhere.