Clip: Oleg Maskaev Sucks

right i have all the respect in the world from the hall of famer to the club fighter ....its just a word out of anger at times

I said earlier in this thread that when I say "sucks" it's relative to top title contenders, and not in general. The thread was light hearted and meant to poke fun at the reccent bregade of people coming out of the wood work crying about how Maskeav was screwed out of a title shot etc; talking about him like he's a top Heavyweight. To make it absolultly clear, for the 3rd time, I don't think any professional fighter sucks (although Reggie Strickland may come close :D). The term "sucks" in this case, again, is in contrast to top Heavyweights. It would be like saying "The Colts rule, and the 49er's SUCK". Am I implying that I think the 49ers have no business playing professional football and that I have no respect for them as athletes? No. It's a forum people. It's the place for talk about who's the best and who sucks. And in contrast within the big picture, Oleg Maskaev sucks. :D

======So c'mon bozo, let's hear your favorites so we can dissect every flaw in their game. LOL.============== ** Ouch! Fatboy Toney and his flabby titties is who Bozo luvs on. I've already sliced and diced Toney every way to Sunday, but, geez, it seems like every fight now he sprouts a new frank on the back of that 6pack he already sported on the back of his neck. man dont start that in here take it to the thunderdome

======So c'mon bozo, let's hear your favorites so we can dissect every flaw in their game. LOL.============== ** Ouch! Fatboy Toney and his flabby titties is who Bozo luvs on. I've already sliced and diced Toney every way to Sunday, but, geez, it seems like every fight now he sprouts a new frank on the back of that 6pack he already sported on the back of his neck.

I never could understand how so called "boxing fans" can say a professional boxer (like Maskaev) who has done what you all could only DREAM of doing and has been to heights in the game u love that u will never see... how u can call him a bum or say that he sucks. A look at his BRUTAL KO over Hasim Rachman tells me you all that dis him like this, A - have no TRUE respect for boxing and B, have no idea what you are really talking about. I will tell u this much.. fighters are a fraternity... even fighters that u fall all over and suck up to do NOT respect you as fans when they know what type of words you put down about OTHER figthers. i feel ya dont take it personal ...it's like ruiz i dont like the guy so i may say something like that out of anger .but i agree and i try to watch what i say no pro fighter sucks ...they would beat the hell out of 95% of the posters we have here

I've seen Maskaev fight only once so I won't comment on his chin or skills. The only thing I want to know is WHO IS BOZO'S FAVORITE FIGHTER or FIGHTERS? He loves to hate on every fighter that has a few holes in his game. I would love to hear who he roots for, because I guarantee he will say some undisputed champion or someone who always wins just so he doesn't embarrass himself and looks "knowledgeable". LMAO. So c'mon bozo, let's hear your favorites so we can dissect every flaw in their game. LOL.

I never could understand how so called "boxing fans" can say a professional boxer (like Maskaev) who has done what you all could only DREAM of doing and has been to heights in the game u love that u will never see... how u can call him a bum or say that he sucks. A look at his BRUTAL KO over Hasim Rachman tells me you all that dis him like this, A - have no TRUE respect for boxing and B, have no idea what you are really talking about. I will tell u this much.. fighters are a fraternity... even fighters that u fall all over and suck up to do NOT respect you as fans when they know what type of words you put down about OTHER figthers.

Why doesn't someone post the clip - then we can judge for ourselves.

LOL Dude. You have some SERIOUS emotional and confidence issues. (Either that or some serious eyesight issues.) I mean, how hard is it to admit you were wrong? LOL This debate is one of the funniest/sadest/weirdest things I've ever seen on a boxing message board. I mean, I'm trying to understand your motives- because anyone who has seen the fight and reads this thread is going to know you are an absolute headcase, either that or you really shouldn't be watching boxing. You are now claiming that Whitaker DID NOT land a right hand that hurt Maskaev just prior to your clip begining (even though his legs clearly buckled from it and he was on the floor, out cold, 6-7 seconds after he took that right hand). I mean, you have got to be borderline delusional/psychopathic (or blind, or stubborn). Either way, it's fucking weird. And I'm done with it. It's such a stupid thing to be arguing about. Anyone who has seen the fight and is reading this is laughing their ass off at you.

LOL You keep repeating that the final punch that KO's him is that right hand. Ummmmm.... OF COURSE. LOL You're getting silly, now, honestly. You're dismissing the right hand because you are quite simply 100% wrong when you said nothing landed before your clip and initially contradicted me. Whitaker lands a right hand, flush on the chin, and buckles Maskaev's legs, and THEN your clip starts as Whitaker starts coming after him because he hurt him. As I predicted, "divert." You want to keep talking about how he is KO'd at the end. DUH. We can all see that. What we can't see is how Maskaev was initially hurt by a right hand seconds before your clip starts, that setup everything you show in the clip. I find it moronic to start a clip IMMEDIATELY after the punch that initially hurts the fighter happens, and just show the "coupe de gras" and proudly (and incorrectly) state that Maskaev was "Ko'd by a jab." I mean, it borders in idiocy. But in this case, I can tell by your tactic of diversion that you have already seen you are completely wrong, but are one of those people who will never admit it, even when they are completely and hopelessly trumped. LOL Let's see if I can dumb it down for you real quick. Answer this simple question, and from that I'll be able to tell if you are drooling idiot, or just a stubborn person who can't admit he was wrong. Q: Did Whitaker land a right hand that buckled Maskaev's legs seconds before your clip begins? A: Yes B: No C: Yes, but if I state the obvious and say "Yes" then people will think less of me D: I'm a confused person You keep writing an essay, and you are just saying the same thing. So I continue with repeating myself. The right hand you speak of did not "buckle his knees" like it was an overly damaging shot. I keep telling you, that you're speaking as though without that right hand, the knock out wouldn't have occured, or that it softend him up for the jab. Watch the fight again. Whittaker lands shots like that at several different points, and Maskaev doesn't get knocked out. Maskaev got hit with a stiff straight right to the jaw, and went down in a heap. This is what you said initially that started all your sour-ness: As for the clip, I haven't seen this fight since watching it live, but the punch that I remember starting the KO was a big right hand, and the clip just kinda shows the aftermath, after the real damage was done. This is wrong. It did not start off the KO, nor was it a particulalry 'big' right hand. The jab was not the 'aftermath', it was the punch to the jaw that put him down and out. Without that jab, he may not have gone down at all. I can say this as many times as you'd like.

I'm not wrong, that's the part you're missing. You're whole take is that there's a right hand before this clip begins that excuses the pathetic-ness of Maskaev being knocked out by a jab from Goofi Whittaker. I'll say it again: The final shot in the clip is a crunching straight right (like a jab) that Oleg walks into with his jaw relaxed. He gets cranked on the chin, and falls in a heap. You don't like that I'm dismissing your take on the right hand before the clip, so you keep repeating yourself. I keep repeating that I think you're wrong, and why. I will continue to do so. LOL You keep repeating that the final punch that KO's him is that right hand. Ummmmm.... OF COURSE. LOL You're getting silly, now, honestly. You're dismissing the right hand because you are quite simply 100% wrong when you said nothing landed before your clip and initially contradicted me. Whitaker lands a right hand, flush on the chin, and buckles Maskaev's legs, and THEN your clip starts as Whitaker starts coming after him because he hurt him. As I predicted, "divert." You want to keep talking about how he is KO'd at the end. DUH. We can all see that. What we can't see is how Maskaev was initially hurt by a right hand seconds before your clip starts, that setup everything you show in the clip. I find it moronic to start a clip IMMEDIATELY after the punch that initially hurts the fighter happens, and just show the "coupe de gras" and proudly (and incorrectly) state that Maskaev was "Ko'd by a jab." I mean, it borders in idiocy. But in this case, I can tell by your tactic of diversion that you have already seen you are completely wrong, but are one of those people who will never admit it, even when they are completely and hopelessly trumped. LOL Let's see if I can dumb it down for you real quick. Answer this simple question, and from that I'll be able to tell if you are drooling idiot, or just a stubborn person who can't admit he was wrong. Q: Did Whitaker land a right hand that buckled Maskaev's legs seconds before your clip begins? A: Yes B: No C: Yes, but if I state the obvious and say "Yes" then people will think less of me D: I'm a confused person

Bozo, you are an idiot. Perhaps if I repeat it one more time, you will understand (ya, right). I could care less about Maskaev. Your idiotic manner to bring Klitschko into every argument you have with people is plain moronic and pisses every other person on this board. If you can't win the argument, you reserve to subject changing, flaming, profiling, repetition, etc, etc. Arguing with you is like chewing gum. To hear "you are a bitter idiot" from someone like you is to take a trip into the Twilight Zone. This is my last post in this thread, I have better things to do than argue with someone like you. You're a Klitschko nut hugging loser who's angry with me because I've exposed you as such several times in the past, so at every given opportunity you feel like, you troll into a thread, and jump into a conversation you're not involved in to take a spitefull swipe at me. I could care less. I have zero respect for your opinion. YOU are the one who changes the subject when he can't back up what he's saying, and you're the one who trolls after me because of build up previous spite. I will continue to point this out every time I see you trolling in after me. And give me a break. You could care less about Maskaev yet you have 50 posts in this thread? Who do you think you're kidding. It's no coincidence a bunch of Klitschko nut huggers jump to Maskaev's defense.

You're right- it should have been. Well, if you want to go that far, then the thread itself is extraneous, because it's accepted, common knowledge that Maskaev has a glass chin. The only point I made was that I remembered there being a right hand that hurt Maskaev RIGHT before the clip begins. Bozo said I "remembered wrong" and that he looked and there was nothing. I went and looked and of course the right hand buckles Maskaev right before the clip begins, just as I originally said. When I chimed in to correct Bozo for his incorrect correction of me is when about 50 uneccesary posts were spawned, mainly because Bozo wants to deny simple facts. I must say that although I have no other stake in any of you guys' obvious long-standing personal rivalries, that the assesment of Bozo as someone who cannot admit he was wrong does seem to be dead-on correct. I mean, it's so obvious to anyone who has the fight and can watch it. Especially when you see that it's the first time Whitaker went on any kind of torrid offensive of power punches like that in the fight- IMMEDIATELY after he landed that right hand prior to the clip. It maybe just takes more of a trained eye to see that it hurt Maskaev than I realize, although painfully obvious to me, but even without that all you have to do is watch Whitaker attack right after it (when the clip begins) to see that even if Bozo doesn't think Maskaev was hurt by it, Whitaker knows he was. And the way Maskaev's knees buckle and he reels backwards should really end all doubt, anyway. But hey, as I said last night, it does seem like beating a dead horse if you watched it and still hold that there was no right hand that hurt Maskaev before the clip starts. Or, more likely, you overlooked it originally and when faced with a small correction, you realized your mistake and fell into that tried and true message board tactic of "divert, disagree, debate" but NEVER, EVER (never) admit you were wrong. :D I've seen it a million times, and sadly it's more and more commonplace these days. I'm not wrong, that's the part you're missing. You're whole take is that there's a right hand before this clip begins that excuses the pathetic-ness of Maskaev being knocked out by a jab from Goofi Whittaker. I'll say it again: The final shot in the clip is a crunching straight right (like a jab) that Oleg walks into with his jaw relaxed. He gets cranked on the chin, and falls in a heap. You don't like that I'm dismissing your take on the right hand before the clip, so you keep repeating yourself. I keep repeating that I think you're wrong, and why. I will continue to do so.

It is a testament in itself that this thread has 117 replies. This truly should have been an open and shut thread. You're right- it should have been. Well, if you want to go that far, then the thread itself is extraneous, because it's accepted, common knowledge that Maskaev has a glass chin. The only point I made was that I remembered there being a right hand that hurt Maskaev RIGHT before the clip begins. Bozo said I "remembered wrong" and that he looked and there was nothing. I went and looked and of course the right hand buckles Maskaev right before the clip begins, just as I originally said. When I chimed in to correct Bozo for his incorrect correction of me is when about 50 uneccesary posts were spawned, mainly because Bozo wants to deny simple facts. I must say that although I have no other stake in any of you guys' obvious long-standing personal rivalries, that the assesment of Bozo as someone who cannot admit he was wrong does seem to be dead-on correct. I mean, it's so obvious to anyone who has the fight and can watch it. Especially when you see that it's the first time Whitaker went on any kind of torrid offensive of power punches like that in the fight- IMMEDIATELY after he landed that right hand prior to the clip. It maybe just takes more of a trained eye to see that it hurt Maskaev than I realize, although painfully obvious to me, but even without that all you have to do is watch Whitaker attack right after it (when the clip begins) to see that even if Bozo doesn't think Maskaev was hurt by it, Whitaker knows he was. And the way Maskaev's knees buckle and he reels backwards should really end all doubt, anyway. But hey, as I said last night, it does seem like beating a dead horse if you watched it and still hold that there was no right hand that hurt Maskaev before the clip starts. Or, more likely, you overlooked it originally and when faced with a small correction, you realized your mistake and fell into that tried and true message board tactic of "divert, disagree, debate" but NEVER, EVER (never) admit you were wrong. :D I've seen it a million times, and sadly it's more and more commonplace these days.

You're a bitter idiot. He was saying something I didn't agree with, and repeating himslef, so I repeated my slef. You jump in and start trolling after me, when you do the exact same thing with your lame arguments, subject changing, and trolling. Give it a rest already, you're boring. Because I light heartedly slammed Oleg in this thread, a select few of you are upset about it. It's no coincidence it's a bunch of Klitschko Nut Huggers that are upset as is evident in the 3 or 4 posts above here. Maskaev sucks. Deal with it you homers. Bozo, you are an idiot. Perhaps if I repeat it one more time, you will understand (ya, right). I could care less about Maskaev. Your idiotic manner to bring Klitschko into every argument you have with people is plain moronic and pisses every other person on this board. If you can't win the argument, you reserve to subject changing, flaming, profiling, repetition, etc, etc. Arguing with you is like chewing gum. To hear "you are a bitter idiot" from someone like you is to take a trip into the Twilight Zone. This is my last post in this thread, I have better things to do than argue with someone like you.

What's the connection between Klitschko nut huggers and defending Maskaev? Same old group of whiners showing up defending a poor fighter.

It is a testament in itself that this thread has 117 replies. This truly should have been an open and shut thread.

Well, what pissed me off, is that he got into it with a new guy, who had decent analysis but could not get through "over and over and over" manner of Bozo. Then I posted a few things and Bozo immediately started going off about Vitali's and Maskaev's nuthuggers, etc. :dunno: You're a bitter idiot. He was saying something I didn't agree with, and repeating himslef, so I repeated my slef. You jump in and start trolling after me, when you do the exact same thing with your lame arguments, subject changing, and trolling. Give it a rest already, you're boring. Because I light heartedly slammed Oleg in this thread, a select few of you are upset about it. It's no coincidence it's a bunch of Klitschko Nut Huggers that are upset as is evident in the 3 or 4 posts above here. Maskaev sucks. Deal with it you homers.

Well, what pissed me off, is that he got into it with a new guy, who had decent analysis but could not get through "over and over and over" manner of Bozo. Then I posted a few things and Bozo immediately started going off about Vitali's and Maskaev's nuthuggers, etc. :dunno: Haven't you guys learned what a lunatic this clown is yet? He belongs in a straight jacket! He will continue to argue with you long after you have signed off and went to bed! He just can't ever be wrong and always has to have the last word. Obsessive/Compulsive?!?!?! By the way, Merry Christmas guys!

Boxing2005, do not bother. He just sits all day long on a computer and trashes various fighters. He derives a great joy out of this. He needs to be sent to the gym. He needs to get into the ring with a real boxer at least once. Well, what pissed me off, is that he got into it with a new guy, who had decent analysis but could not get through "over and over and over" manner of Bozo. Then I posted a few things and Bozo immediately started going off about Vitali's and Maskaev's nuthuggers, etc. :dunno: