Sugar Ray Leonard is one of the greatest fighters of all time, and on ability, standard of opposition faced and desire (coming back to beat Hagler) you've gotta go with SRL
Ask someone if they can name a boxer from the 1980's, and they'll say Tyson. If you don't like to hear that it's a popularity contest and Tyson isn't shit compared to Leonard, well too bad because it largely is based on popularity. And for accomplishments; Tyson was the youngest heavyweight and took the boxing world by storm with his first round knockouts. The fighter of the 80's goes to Tyson followed closely by Leonard.
I can knock out half the guys Tyson KO'd
Weak competiton my friend.
Leonard was the man. And so fun to watch too.
Why isn't Hagler included in the poll? :confused:
Shit, if you were going by who was ranked as the #1 p4p fighter in the sport for the longest time during that decade, Hagler wins this EASILY. From 1983 until he lost to Leonard in '87, he sat at the very top of the p4p rankings (Tyson, in comparision, was #1 in 1988 & 89 only), and that's a five year stretch...half of the whole friggin' decade.
Yet he's not even one of the options? :confused:
I went with Tyson. I'm not going by opposition, I was looking at how much they dominated. I know you can't tell me that Sugar Ray Leonard dominated his opponents more than Tyson did. I know all the "Tyson had the weaker opponents" comments are going to come in, but hey a pro is a pro, and Tyson dominated all his opponents out-powering them.*
*on a side note Leonard did dominate by out-boxing his opposition, I will give him that.
lol, LOOK at the WORLD of difference in opposition.
And Leonard was jumping weight classes to do it.
This poll is retarded with all the votes Tyson has. It's strictly popularity, because his level of compeition, acheivment, and the fact he fought 5 years in the 80s show how absurd it is that he's leading.
And Marvin Hagler isn't even an option.
:rolleyes:
yeah it ''took'' longer for Leonard but he achived incredibly more and on a longer basis. Knocking light heavies or past their prime legends is no great feat my friend. HW was a sick division, not as bad as today but it WAS in a sad state.
Now talk about a constuctive argument. Tyson came in when the HW division was searching itself. He was fresh air thats all. that smiley makes me think you were half serious anyway...
well yeah and no with the happy face. But tyson was talked about alot more then leonard cause he came in and won the title in like a year and he was jus 20yrs. comin in the game at 18yrs. and all the 1st.round kos and how brutal they were. Plus how fast he sucked up the hw division. took leonard alot longer to do that
to put it nice and simple leonard when doin compentary was on tyson's nuts alllllllllll ways. :)
Now talk about a constuctive argument. Tyson came in when the HW division was searching itself. He was fresh air thats all. that smiley makes me think you were half serious anyway...
I went with Tyson. I'm not going by opposition, I was looking at how much they dominated. I know you can't tell me that Sugar Ray Leonard dominated his opponents more than Tyson did. I know all the "Tyson had the weaker opponents" comments are going to come in, but hey a pro is a pro, and Tyson dominated all his opponents out-powering them.*
*on a side note Leonard did dominate by out-boxing his opposition, I will give him that.
That is so ridiculus. It's like comparing orange with apples. Leonard beat more HALL OF FAMERS in their PRIME. Tyson beat 2 hall of famer way past their prime or buffed up lower class boxers. You grade fighters by how bad they dominated some nobodies? I hope you realize now how much this argument doesn't make sence.
I went with Tyson. I'm not going by opposition, I was looking at how much they dominated. I know you can't tell me that Sugar Ray Leonard dominated his opponents more than Tyson did. I know all the "Tyson had the weaker opponents" comments are going to come in, but hey a pro is a pro, and Tyson dominated all his opponents out-powering them.*
*on a side note Leonard did dominate by out-boxing his opposition, I will give him that.
im not trying to take away from leonard, but 115-113 is also fair for hagler or a draw, it was a close fight, hagler seemed to show a bit to much respect and didnt fight smart agaisnt duran or leonard, but he did and thats that
but leonard is the fighter of the 80s,
Hagler - Leonard is one of those fights that has such different opinions.
Ive always thought Leonard won it by quite sum margin.
I thought his movement (not running) was great, making Hagler miss, and look slow. Leonard fought in bursts but made the punches count, making them hard and throwing great combos.
Hagler put on pressure but couldnt make it count.
Just my opinion of corse, but Leonard was class.
im not trying to take away from leonard, but 115-113 is also fair for hagler or a draw, it was a close fight, hagler seemed to show a bit to much respect and didnt fight smart agaisnt duran or leonard, but he did and thats that
but leonard is the fighter of the 80s,
hagler's wins were more convincing than that of leonard's. and to think hagler is not the biggest of his division. he ruled middleweight for a decade... i watched his fight with leonard and leonard would just own the last 30 sec. hagler was the workhorse of that fight. leonard was just an impressionist
That's your opinion, but you can't deny Hagler gave away the 1st four rounds. That means you'd have to score 7 of the last 8 rounds for Hagler to have him winning.
Not outrageous, but Leonard fought a very smart fight that night, and edged it on the cards in a lot of people's opinion.
Once again, that was his 1st fight at Middleweight, and coming off 3 years inactivity due to what was considered a career ending eye injury.
It was a gutsy and brave showing from Ray.