How when Jermain goes and wins two close fights against Hopkins who was the p4p king he looked like shit hes trash....when noone has looked good against hopkins (ok RJJ). Yet when Winky looks bad against Soliman, its hard to look good against Soliman? It just blows my mind how an offensive fighter looked bad against a defensive makes the offensive bad. Then a defensive looking bad against an offensive theres excuses. Granted people said what I said its hard to look good against Hopkins, there are about 3 or so threads just on the fact he had the flu or its hard to look good against Soliman. Its his fault he looked bad with the flu, no offense to him. He went into the fight knowing he was sick or whatever. It shows heart to do so but I will not bend backwards if you go in KNOWING your sick. Thats like a backup plan "just incase". If your sick and are going to fight, why tell anyone?
I've never seen Sam Soliman before tonight but I'm dying to know how you look good against him? The only reasonable way would be if you were a huge power punch-but then he seemed to have a good chin. I could imagine a Tito really hurting him but most guys aren't going to do that. I actually am a bit surprised HBO recommended a fighter designed to make you look bad.
Bad point. Looking bad against Hopkins is expected AND IS NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF. Now Soliman, who Manny Steward described as "amateurish" and "off the streets", thats embarassing.
Soliman makes EVERYBODY look bad.
See, this is the problem right here. EVERYONE was expecting nothing but domination from Wright on Soliman. The fact is, Soliman surprised everyone by being unrealistically active and made the fight alot more difficult for Winky.
BUT... it is a huge stretch to say the Soliman made Wright look bad. Wright didn't look bad at all, he formed a strategy against Soliman, he let him throw his flurries, then he attacked once his tyraid was finished. He still kept his composure which i don't think would've been the case with other middleweights. Wright was still the one the was pressing the fight and pushing Soliman back. Wright adapted to the awkward style and won a unanimous decision by outboxing him, just like most predicted, the only difference is Soliman didn't make it easy for him. End of story.
It's also unfair to compare Taylor fighting against Hopkin's strategy to Wright fighting against Soliman's strategy... Hopkin's fighting strategy is just a small, small bit different from Soliman's (sarcasm for those that always miss it).
Thats exactly my point though. The only reason I say he looked bad is because, EVERYONE said he'd dominate him. Now almost all of these people who said he'd dominate him, are saying its hard to look good against him (Soliman). Thats just the point im trying to make. Im not coming Soliman and Bernard per say just how when you think about it, whos it harder to look better against? Bernard or Soliman? People say Wright is 100x better than Taylor yet he looked bad (reason above) againstthe lesser (understatment here) guy. This being said congrats Winky on the win but, according to DiBella you better step up your game because Taylor may want to fight the best, he has to eat :) Good post though restless, finally someone gave me something to respond to.
Winky looked like the much better fighter tonight, he just proved that he can be frustrated like everyone else. I saw nothing that showed he isn't the p4p king. He won 10 rounds or more and was never in danger of getting hurt.
thank you. additionally good points.
Winky looked like the much better fighter tonight, he just proved that he can be frustrated like everyone else. I saw nothing that showed he isn't the p4p king. He won 10 rounds or more and was never in danger of getting hurt.
See, this is the problem right here. EVERYONE was expecting nothing but domination from Wright on Soliman. The fact is, Soliman surprised everyone by being unrealistically active and made the fight alot more difficult for Winky.
BUT... it is a huge stretch to say the Soliman made Wright look bad. Wright didn't look bad at all, he formed a strategy against Soliman, he let him throw his flurries, then he attacked once his tyraid was finished. He still kept his composure which i don't think would've been the case with other middleweights. Wright was still the one the was pressing the fight and pushing Soliman back. Wright adapted to the awkward style and won a unanimous decision by outboxing him, just like most predicted, the only difference is Soliman didn't make it easy for him. End of story.
It's also unfair to compare Taylor fighting against Hopkin's strategy to Wright fighting against Soliman's strategy... Hopkin's fighting strategy is just a small, small bit different from Soliman's (sarcasm for those that always miss it).
Thats my point, btw ImSoFlyyy im banned from posting in ur threads? :) Anyhow Im a huge Taylor fan (obviously) and everyone bashed him for looking bad against Hopkins. Now everyone said Wright would dominate Soliman, and now they say "Well its hard to look good against Soliman" come on now, thats kind of weak....Don't get me wrong I like Wright like I said earlier, but to discredit Taylor and give excuses to Wright doesnt make any sense to me.
Bad point. Looking bad against Hopkins is expected AND IS NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF. Now Soliman, who Manny Steward described as "amateurish" and "off the streets", thats embarassing.
Look, I like Winky as well, but your right, no-one goes into fights letting the world know that they were sick or injured of whatever. It's a fact most boxers are never 100% when they get into the ring.