I think so...
Here are my points...
Against Hopkins, his father had to lie to him and tell him he was winning to keep him from being discouraged
Even Tito fans will say "something was wrong with him that night"
Lost fight to Hopkins, then retired.
Low blowed Vargas when Vargas was gaining momentum in fight --> desperate/lack of confidence in winning so he cheated
Saw that it was hard to hit Winky, I wouldn't say he gave up, but he realized this and pretty much ate jabs the whole night, not being the vicious fighter he normally is
Retired after fight to Winky
I would not say that.
He has been knocked down by 8 different fighters and got back up to beat them with the exception of Hopkins.
In my opinion, his heart has been established.
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Like in "The Last Boyscout", when that guy pulls a pistol out of his pants as he rushes for the endzone?
i'm actually surprised we haven't seen that in a pro boxing match yet, james butler could have done it
trinidad was completely discouraged against winky, he knew he couldnt get through wrights defense, he didnt give up but he didnt give it he's all!
agaisnt vargas he was SMART.. he punched low so he would get time to recover! i have respect for fighters who will do anything to win a fight!
Like in "The Last Boyscout", when that guy pulls a pistol out of his pants as he rushes for the endzone?
and about that low blow shit.... that sumtimes helps both of the fighters cause u dont kno they make it look bad but then again they are recovering so in a way its good for both but yet looks bad for the boxer that did the low blow.... so in a way tito fought smart not dirty (well a lil bit lol)
trinidad was completely discouraged against winky, he knew he couldnt get through wrights defense, he didnt give up but he didnt give it he's all!
agaisnt vargas he was SMART.. he punched low so he would get time to recover! i have respect for fighters who will do anything to win a fight!
Kids get frustrated, not stable adults.
Frustration = mentally weak, IMO. Papa Trinidad knew this and straight lied to him during the rounds.
Same thing with Sugar Shane and his father. We could see Sugar Shane quit already mentally against Winky.
i don't think tito is either you do not become a 3 div. champ and be the longest raining champ ever at welter and be weak minded ...also tito was knocked down many times in his career and always got back up that is not the mark of someone who is easily discouraged.......tito was dominated by hops and winky but i think he was more frustrated than anything especially when you are not getting anytype of advice from your corner but even then he cameout for every rnd. he could of just quit on his stool like many before him have ....
i don't think tito is either you do not become a 3 div. champ and be the longest raining champ ever at welter and be weak minded ...also tito was knocked down many times in his career and always got back up that is not the mark of someone who is easily discouraged.......tito was dominated by hops and winky but i think he was more frustrated than anything especially when you are not getting anytype of advice from your corner but even then he cameout for every rnd. he could of just quit on his stool like many before him have ....
I completely agree.
I voted for Tito being easily discouraged. Not saying he doesnt have heart, and not saying he wasnt a great fighter. Why did I choose that vote? Because he retired every time he lost, even though it was only twice.
I can't believe Idontwatchboxing isnt in here yet, swinging for the fences.
i don't think tito is either you do not become a 3 div. champ and be the longest raining champ ever at welter and be weak minded ...also tito was knocked down many times in his career and always got back up that is not the mark of someone who is easily discouraged.......tito was dominated by hops and winky but i think he was more frustrated than anything especially when you are not getting anytype of advice from your corner but even then he cameout for every rnd. he could of just quit on his stool like many before him have ....
I think so...
Here are my points...
Against Hopkins, his father had to lie to him and tell him he was winning to keep him from being discouraged
Even Tito fans will say "something was wrong with him that night"
Lost fight to Hopkins, then retired.
Low blowed Vargas when Vargas was gaining momentum in fight --> desperate/lack of confidence in winning so he cheated
Saw that it was hard to hit Winky, I wouldn't say he gave up, but he realized this and pretty much ate jabs the whole night, not being the vicious fighter he normally is
Retired after fight to Winky
Boxing is very simple. When your young and climbing the ranks your motivated. Motivated by the sport, fame, money and all the chicks that want to kiss your peckel. Then you become 'Champ' and its a whole new ball game. After a couple of defenses you start thinking your better than you really are, start cutting corners and some hungry kid comes along and "WHOMPS" your ass..
After you have been the man, its a huge let down.
I dont think its either..He just needed a better trainer some fighter need that guidence in there corner and Tito is one of them that why he seemed so discoraged and confused in the ring againts Hopkins and Winky, but he has the heart becuase he kept coming at them. Im telling you if Tito had a 1/2 way decent trainer he would still be fighting and dominating.
tito is nice and everyone knows it haha..... winky wright.... i dont kno what to say.. dude got no power.. in that tito fight i dont kno.. if tito wouldve caught him clean..ooooo it wouldve been over but it didnt... no tito aint mentally weak nor easily discouraged he just fought the wrong fight.
The point is that Tito is one of the most memorable and one of the best fighter to ever enter the ring.
And just for future reference stick to reading spanish not writing it,....please. Thank you. The latin community appreciates it.
Coño, Hombre Harsh
I know pidgin Spanish... barely enough to get by. But one thing I did know was that you were making pitiful excuses for an exposed fighter in Tito.
The point is that Tito is one of the most memorable and one of the best fighter to ever enter the ring.
And just for future reference stick to reading spanish not writing it,....please. Thank you. The latin community appreciates it.
I know pidgin Spanish... barely enough to get by. But one thing I did know was that you were making pitiful excuses for an exposed fighter in Tito.
Haha so basically you know less than Creole spanish.
I know pidgin Spanish... barely enough to get by. But one thing I did know was that you were making pitiful excuses for an exposed fighter in Tito.
Sturm is not just like Winky he is more willing to exchange than Winky,and he is orthodox not southpaw. Anyway that fight never happened and never will. You should learn how to write in spanish before you type it!