Anyone who read this thread knows whos getting owned, your stupid comments just make me laugh, keep bringing them for more and more humour! i thought u had some decent knowledge about boxing, but your nothing but full of shit, therefore if i even argue with u anymore, i am arguing with a 15 year old kid.
Abraham would beat Sturm IMO
funny how u all of a sudden switch to a post thats an insult after we were having a discussion, looks like your getting mad at yourself cause u cant think of anything else, dont worry theres always next time buddy
he took a 2 days notice, whos fault is that? he still won a split decision and if he wasnt in germany he would have lost that fight, then we could have said he took 2 days notice and lost a fight, fair enough.
Styles make fights, I think Sturm is better than Ian Garner (Obviously) but if Abraham can KO Valezco in the 5th round, and Sturm can lose a fight to Valezco, Then what are your predictions on a Sturm vs Abraham fight? dude comon, i know your a fan but these are the facts.
and can you explain how can i fight score be 116-116? i understand 114-114, or even 115-115 in some cases, but how can the score be that in a 12 round fight?
Ask anyone in this forum, who knows how Abraham fights they will tell you the same thing, Abraham has good speed, power, stamina, endurance, hes got a lot of heart.
one judge had it 115-113 for arthur its on box rec, how he had it liek that after a point deduction and 3 KD's is beyond me, what im tryin to tell u is that sturms boxing ability and his quick movments would be way to much for arthur and his wild shots will miss and he will be very slow and tired late and sturm will whoop him plain and simple
also why did u block me from your other thread?> tired of being owned?
this is boxing, anything can happen, sturm can be winning all 11 rounds and get cought with a hail marry punch at the end and lose, arthur could be better then i thought and could be a great middle, sturm can end up being a bust, who knows? it is my opnion that felix sturm will win pretty easly agaisnt arthur thats all
Yeah and what are you trying to say here? He knocked him out 3 times and he was beating him,Abraham also deducted points for hitting after the bell thats why the scored were like that, otherwise it was 116-110, the official score. Felix Sturm's Hometown is Germany too, not only that he was born there, so what are we trying to suggest here huh?
The Sturm that Beat Hector Valezco won a SPLIT DECISION and many felt Valezco was robbed in that fight, however i dont believe it was a robbery but the fight could have gone EITHER WAY, Arthur Abraham Knocked Valezco in round 3 and then again in Round 5 until he was counted out, Now you compare the wins, whos win was better Sturm's? which was so damn close or Abraham's? which was one sided points win and then the knockout?
Think about it man, i want a reply to this one, and lets see how much knowledge you have answering to this question.
Im not flaming, just want to find out somethings u know.
i ahve already answered that question before u even posted this, sturm took that fight on liek 2 days notice, he was a last minute replacment fighting for a world title and won, the point i was making on the ian fight is that arthur had alot of trouble with a boxer like ian gardner, do u think ian is better then sturm?
without the knockdowns or the point that scores would have been 115-114 116-113 116-116 for only a MD for arthur, and that is in germany and the fight scores were that close
I dont hate you at all, I just dont like some of your posts because they are exactly opposite of what I think, I dont know why you think I hate you, Everyones got their own opinion and thats is yours.
I actually like Sturm but you have to remember Styles make fights, who has Sturm fought that makes him that good? Yes oscar de le hoya but was he impressive? if yes why did he lose? if he didnt deserve to lose it was still a close fight, so why was it close if he was that good, fighting an out of prime De la Hoya?
Arthur Abraham beat a WELL DECENT prospect Howard Eastman, and that beating was almost one sided beating, you can ask anyone about this prospect and they will tell you the same thing GUARANTEED.
He beat 2 other Respected Prospects, Ian Gardner and Hector Valezco, and he was only 23 when he had these fights, i call that YOUNG okay... hes 24 years old and he is the IBF middleweight champion, this saturday 60% of the people were predicing Ikeke to beat him, while i was one of the 40% that predicted Arthur has the skills to beat him, Ikeke is 6 foot 4 Inches, he would give anyone trouble with that height, but he could'nt beat Ikeke when he took a one sided beating until it was stopped.
I think Sturm cant stop Ikeke like Arthur did, and I won some bets on this fight.. :)
Arthur has a long way to go in the division, Middleweights who in my eyes are good in my rankings in overall skill:
Bernard Hopkins isnt going to fight anymore so this is the current list:
1. Jermain Taylor
2. Ronald Wright
3. Arthur Abraham
4. Sam Solimon
5. Howard Eastman
he needed 3 knock downs to beat ian gardner and thats in his home town! which is germany remind u lmao. u keep bringing up his age, so what? sturm was wbo champ at 24 and he had to fight on 2 days notice to win it, of course sturm cant KO ikeke, thats not how he fights, he boxes people, and btw sturm beat hector before arthur did, if your gonan mention him for arthur why dotn u mention him for sturm? Felix Sturm came to america 24 years old with 20 fights and foguht oscar de la hoya, one of americas biggest most popular boxer of all time! arthur hasnt done that, arthur slowed down alot in the 5th round of that fight, ikeke never worked the jab, sturm is to fast to skilled and would counter punch the piss outta arthur and embarass him, maybe u need to watch some more sturm
SturmRules, have you even seen Arthur fight? Hes got a Very good stamina, decent hand speed and excellent power, with a record of 19-0 (17 KO's) and hes only 24 years old, he went 12 rounds with a TOP Prospect like Howard Eastman and beat him, He Knocked Ikeke down, when he got up Arthur kept beatin him until it was stopped.
I am more concerned about Sturms health if he goes 12 rounds with someone with the power of Arthur, Sturm take a long beating if it goes 12 rounds, although it dont see it going all the way till 12 rounds.
IMO Arthur stops Sturm
u really dont mean any of that u just hate sturm cause your anger toward me, i understand i wont hold your arthur hugging agaisnt u when he is exposed how does that sound, you the only person i have ever heard that says he has great stamina, everytime i read about or see arthur he gets winded,
heres a question for u have u seen sturm fight other then DLH? if u have, how can u possible think arthur would hit sturm with any of his sloppy ass shit, sturm will counter him, make him miss, and beat him all night long
I dunno man, Abraham looked awesome last night... he did a good job stopping the jab of Ikeke. However, admittedly I have not seen much of Sturm, is there any fights of his you can upload besides the DLH fight?
yes there in german though, most of them are over 500 megs though so it takes a while to upload them, some motivation (points ahem) might help them go faster :cool:
no he would get a whooping for 10-11 rounds, he could even quit on his stool if he is getting beat bad enough and is to tired to come out for the 12th cause he doesnt have the stam, missing punchs take more energy outta ya then landing them, and arthur will be missing alot
I dunno man, Abraham looked awesome last night... he did a good job stopping the jab of Ikeke. However, admittedly I have not seen much of Sturm, is there any fights of his you can upload besides the DLH fight?
Abraham would kick Sturms ass, if thats what were talking about.
no he would get a whooping for 10-11 rounds, he could even quit on his stool if he is getting beat bad enough and is to tired to come out for the 12th cause he doesnt have the stam, missing punchs take more energy outta ya then landing them, and arthur will be missing alot
Dear Lord you're a prick. I dunno who it was who left his dildo in your fuckin ass, but you gotta lose it. Your constant haranguing discredits yourself. I didn't see the fight. I was working off this guy's round by round. He said it was fast. I say your a cumguzzling prick. Like it?
Well maybe next time you should actually watch the fight first.
What is controversial about a ref stopping a fight when a guy is out on his feet and he keeps getting hit, and when the ref does stop it said fighter falls halfway across the ring? You're right the ref should have let him kill him.
Dear Lord you're a prick. I dunno who it was who left his dildo in your fuckin ass, but you gotta lose it. Your constant haranguing discredits yourself. I didn't see the fight. I was working off this guy's round by round. He said it was fast. I say your a cumguzzling prick. Like it?
So, do you guys think this is a better win than the one against Eastman?
My opinion is that a controversial TKO against a guy most considered underrated and avoided, a guy who hadn't lost in four years is better than a decision against a guy who was coming off a loss. How bout you?
What is controversial about a ref stopping a fight when a guy is out on his feet and he keeps getting hit, and when the ref does stop it said fighter falls halfway across the ring? You're right the ref should have let him kill him.
So, do you guys think this is a better win than the one against Eastman?
My opinion is that a controversial TKO against a guy most considered underrated and avoided, a guy who hadn't lost in four years is better than a decision against a guy who was coming off a loss. How bout you?
well, if Abraham expects a shot at Wright, he better get his ass outta Germany for once.
Well, I don't know why Abraham would expect a shot at Wright since Wright holds exactly no one's titles, but I do believe Wright is Abraham's mandatory.
you thought right. he IS overrated.
He didn't look so hot tonight. I was definitely impressed with Abraham though, he looked awesome... had decent defense, and landed some real nice power punches... some of them were a little wide but they definitely looked nice.
For what its worth, Ikeke disagreed with the stoppage in a post fight interview.
AWFUL STOPPAGE! abraham landed a nice left hook that stunned ikeke, but he wasnt even given a chance to weather the storm. Germany strikes again!
holy shit that was quick, i though ikeke was overrated...
yea, tko. actually, after watching the replay... Ikeke was on the ropes, and his hands were lowered, so I guess it wasn't that terrible of a stoppage, but I dunno, it still seemed premature. Only 3 punches landed on the ropes before the ref stopped it, and they weren't fast punches.
you did good. heres some good K.