Who is the Best Counterpuncher Ever to Grace the Ring?

Can anyone point me in the direction of a video of Joe Gans that doesn't look like microwaved dog shit?

I like your list. I have many favorite fighters that I respect but my favorite that come to mind are Hagler, Hearns, Monzon, Whitaker, and Gans. These guys were fcking brilliant fighters. Ali and Louis would be a tough fight to call to be honest with you. Say all you want, but nobody, I mean NOBODY ever had the concussive power in his fists that Joe Louis had. If you ever get the chance to see film clips of his fight with Tony Galento in I believe 1939 then do so. Watch him rebound after a flash knockdown and totally cut the ring right out from under Galento and then just demolish him with the shortest crispest punches you've ever seen. The man is the number 1 all time heavyweight in my book. Ali and Robinson alike both idolised him (when Ali wasn't playing to the camera's). Joe Louis was a peoples champion. Great fighter, but even more importantly was a great MAN. That's cool, man. The reason I want to get more fights on DVD is to learn more about the past fighters, I agree with you about Louis having the most power.. I'd have to say he was the best PUNCHER in the history of the sport.. I'm currently reading his biography, about 1/3 through it.. Finished Sugar Rays not to long ago, have you read his??

Joe Louis is my favorite fighter EVER, he's there with Thomas Hearns and "Sugar" Ray Robinson... The 3 greatest fighters from Detroit, but that's not why I like them... When I get some $$$ I'm going to go order a BUNCH of boxing fights from the internet, I want some more Louis fights(his career maybe), Pepp, Robinson, Gans, Gavilan, etc. Hey, who do you think would win? Ali or Louis? I think Louis exposes Ali unorthodox style with his accurate punching skill, I got Louis by decision, or possible late TKO.. I like your list. I have many favorite fighters that I respect but my favorite that come to mind are Hagler, Hearns, Monzon, Whitaker, and Gans. These guys were fcking brilliant fighters. Ali and Louis would be a tough fight to call to be honest with you. Say all you want, but nobody, I mean NOBODY ever had the concussive power in his fists that Joe Louis had. If you ever get the chance to see film clips of his fight with Tony Galento in I believe 1939 then do so. Watch him rebound after a flash knockdown and totally cut the ring right out from under Galento and then just demolish him with the shortest crispest punches you've ever seen. The man is the number 1 all time heavyweight in my book. Ali and Robinson alike both idolised him (when Ali wasn't playing to the camera's). Joe Louis was a peoples champion. Great fighter, but even more importantly was a great MAN.

Louis is your fav ey??? now I now the reason for your Handle "Tha Greates" hehehehehehehe lol When I first made this account, I didn't even watch boxing really, I just wanted a knickname and Ali was one of the few boxers that I knew, so I put my self thaGreatest lol Ever since i joined here, I enhanced my knowledge etc. But Barrera is my favorite fighter today! I hope Pacquiao KO Pac so we can see MAB-PAC II!!!

Joe Louis is my favorite fighter EVER, he's there with Thomas Hearns and "Sugar" Ray Robinson... The 3 greatest fighters from Detroit, but that's not why I like them... When I get some $$$ I'm going to go order a BUNCH of boxing fights from the internet, I want some more Louis fights(his career maybe), Pepp, Robinson, Gans, Gavilan, etc. Hey, who do you think would win? Ali or Louis? I think Louis exposes Ali unorthodox style with his accurate punching skill, I got Louis by decision, or possible late TKO.. Louis is your fav ey??? now I now the reason for your Handle "Tha Greates" hehehehehehehe

The most complete heavyweight ever in combination of boxing skill and punching prowess. Threw every punch with textbook accuracy, possessed great speed and paralyzing power. One of the greatest combination punchers and counter-punchers ever. Not only that, but he possessed a FINE jab. Joe Louis is my favorite fighter EVER, he's there with Thomas Hearns and "Sugar" Ray Robinson... The 3 greatest fighters from Detroit, but that's not why I like them... When I get some $$$ I'm going to go order a BUNCH of boxing fights from the internet, I want some more Louis fights(his career maybe), Pepp, Robinson, Gans, Gavilan, etc. Hey, who do you think would win? Ali or Louis? I think Louis exposes Ali unorthodox style with his accurate punching skill, I got Louis by decision, or possible late TKO..

I don't know the best but one great counterpuncher that I know is Joe Louis... He had beautiful boxing skills... The most complete heavyweight ever in combination of boxing skill and punching prowess. Threw every punch with textbook accuracy, possessed great speed and paralyzing power. One of the greatest combination punchers and counter-punchers ever. Not only that, but he possessed a FINE jab.

I don't know the best but one great counterpuncher that I know is Joe Louis... He had beautiful boxing skills... SOrry bro... I havent seen any fight of Joe Louis :D But I think Juan Manuel MArquez is Great, If not the Greatest Counter Puncher. ;)

I don't know the best but one great counterpuncher that I know is Joe Louis... He had beautiful boxing skills...

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I don't know who is the BEST, though one that immediately comes to mind is Juan Manuel Marquez. To get off the canvas 3 times in 1st round and COUNTER PUNCH your way to a draw, nearly victory, is enough in my book to be great.

Roy Jones Junior.

What about Salvador Sanchez? Ive heard he was a great counter puncher. I recently watched him fighting Wilfredo Gomez, and he spent most of the fight on the ropes, catching Gomez with some great accurate shots. It was quite a war, so i dont think it showed him countering at his best.

Whitaker was a fantastic fighter and everything you say it's true, it's just that Joe Gans and Benny Leonard were so much better! Nobody is 'so much better' than Sweet Pea.

probly joe gans. Insightful comment.

probly joe gans.

Whitaker was a fantastic fighter and everything you say it's true, it's just that Joe Gans and Benny Leonard were so much better! Whitaker avoided punches on the backfoot, but Roberto Duran avoided punches on the frontfoot which required twice as much skill. It was a mass of hidden intangibles that made Pernell so great. The fact that He had so many shortcomings (shaky chin, little to no power). People forget his deficiencies and his flaws that could have made his career resemble a Michael Nunn or even a Breland. I also like the fact that He won everything on his own terms. He would never bow down to public pressure and brawl. Whitaker simply worked to his strengths and I admired that.

I still believe boxing fans take Pernell's skills for granted. The fluid movement, the angles, the way he paralyses opponents to the floor, the sense of anticipation, the domination of the ring. He was matched by NO ONE other then the great Willie Pep. I think I'm the only one that truly respects what Pernell has done. The respect for Whitaker is only undermined by the American press and boxing fans alike because of Pea's attitude towards them. I'm with you man, I loved Pernell! I thought I was the only one.

I still believe boxing fans take Pernell's skills for granted. The fluid movement, the angles, the way he paralyses opponents to the floor, the sense of anticipation, the domination of the ring. He was matched by NO ONE other then the great Willie Pep. I think I'm the only one that truly respects what Pernell has done. The respect for Whitaker is only undermined by the American press and boxing fans alike because of Pea's attitude towards them. Whitaker was a fantastic fighter and everything you say it's true, it's just that Joe Gans and Benny Leonard were so much better! Whitaker avoided punches on the backfoot, but Roberto Duran avoided punches on the frontfoot which required twice as much skill.

1. Joe Gans 2. Benny Leonard 3. Roberto Duran 4. Henry Armstrong 5. Pernell Whitaker I still believe boxing fans take Pernell's skills for granted. The fluid movement, the angles, the way he paralyses opponents to the floor, the sense of anticipation, the domination of the ring. He was matched by NO ONE other then the great Willie Pep. I think I'm the only one that truly respects what Pernell has done. The respect for Whitaker is only undermined by the American press and boxing fans alike because of Pea's attitude towards them.