i've seen two of duddy's fight, he only needs to land one shot to get Ward in trouble, he can be losing the fight on the cards and still take Ward out. Duddy by KO
hmm
It is 100% false to say that punchers usually beat boxers. In fact, the opposite is true, and has been proven throughout boxing history.
Tunney-Dempsey
Jirov-Toney
Mayweather-Castillo
Toney-Barkley
Leonard-Hearns
Leonard-Hagler
Ali-Foreman
Ali-Frazier
Eubank-Benn
There are examples of puncher/brawlers beating the boxer, but it is not the norm.
i'll take a hard hitting brawler over a finesse boxer anytime. i'd say about 7-8 out of 10 times the puncher wins. the boxer gets taken out his game because the puncher is landing hard shots, so the boxer tries to play his game and usually gets KO'd or beat becuase of it...not saying Forrest is a finesse fighter, but look what happend to him against Mayorga. stuff like that seems to happen....
anywho, i'd take duddy over ward due to that belief i have about boxers vs punchers, and also the fact that ward was dropped and pretty wobbled in his last fight. had duddy dropped him, i'm sure he would've finished him. duddy has come off the canvas too, but i think he expects to take some to give some....
Yes you are biased but I'll give you that.
Duddy has no fucking jab. He's fighting stationary guys who have been payed peanuts to be the "gatekeepers" of the division.
In other words, there the guys who get payed to get knocked out to hype up a rising prospect.
He does need work with the jab and staying low, but the majority of the guys this man beats do not come to get knocked out. Duddy Ko'd Pat Coleman in the 8th and final rd with about a minute left. Lenord Pierre is a top prospect who had double the experience when he fought Duddy and got KO'd in the 1st rd.
You might have point with some of his flaws but this man gets better and improves with every fight. And go look up his stats at boxrec its all there, his opponets are alot tougher than the majority of building fighters.
**And to comment on what u said earlier on Gatti, you said like Gatti's carrer is bad, the man was a 2 time champ at 2 different weight classes and has a chance to be a 3 time champ, and not to mention one of the biggest draws in boxing over the last 10 yrs
Lower level guys??? haha, let me explain somethin, when you start out, you have to fight mediocore opposition, do you expect him to fight Winky Wright after his 12 professional bout??
Here the point though - Duddy's opponets winning percentage is 72%, that is not too common for a building fighter. Duddy's opponets have also been pretty dangerous, his opponets have KO'd 43% of their opponets and he stays active, Duddy is fighting again on Dec 15
Also he has fought a tough veteren/former champ in Pat Coleman, a tough veteren/former canadian champ Byron Mackie, and an undefeated prospect who was undefeated at the time (16-0)and is trained by Kevin Rooney Lenord Pierre. Also these fights ended with a KO. Duddy also has Yori Boy Campas in his sights for St Patricks Day. I believe the sky is the limit for Duddy at Middleweight if he stays on course, in this wide open division.
To go back to to the Ward question right now Duddy Ko's him brutaly in the mid rds. Ward's boxing will be able to Duddy away for half the fight and maybe even give him a rd or 2, but Duddy will slow him down with body shots and eventually send Wards head into the front row/ringside crowd.
And sorry for the rant, and as u can see I can be a bit biased
Yes you are biased but I'll give you that.
Duddy has no fucking jab. He's fighting stationary guys who have been payed peanuts to be the "gatekeepers" of the division.
In other words, there the guys who get payed to get knocked out to hype up a rising prospect.
Don't expect much from Duddy. He is an exciting fighter, but I see nothing but a Gatti-esque type of career.
He's showing good overall punching but against lower level guys. If he develops a jab He MIGHT be a top MW but I just don't see it.
Lower level guys??? haha, let me explain somethin, when you start out, you have to fight mediocore opposition, do you expect him to fight Winky Wright after his 12 professional bout??
Here the point though - Duddy's opponets winning percentage is 72%, that is not too common for a building fighter. Duddy's opponets have also been pretty dangerous, his opponets have KO'd 43% of their opponets and he stays active, Duddy is fighting again on Dec 15
Also he has fought a tough veteren/former champ in Pat Coleman, a tough veteren/former canadian champ Byron Mackie, and an undefeated prospect who was undefeated at the time (16-0)and is trained by Kevin Rooney Lenord Pierre. Also these fights ended with a KO. Duddy also has Yori Boy Campas in his sights for St Patricks Day. I believe the sky is the limit for Duddy at Middleweight if he stays on course, in this wide open division.
To go back to to the Ward question right now Duddy Ko's him brutaly in the mid rds. Ward's boxing will be able to Duddy away for half the fight and maybe even give him a rd or 2, but Duddy will slow him down with body shots and eventually send Wards head into the front row/ringside crowd.
And sorry for the rant, and as u can see I can be a bit biased
Got to root for my boy John on this one he has more expierence then ANdre which could tip the scales in his favor even with some of his flaws plus were in the same camp so I gotta back him :)
Ward has shown to be vulnerable early on. Duddy is supposed to be (I haven't seen him) a big puncher.
Duddy has to be better than the stiffs Ward has faced...so he obviously is capable of KOing Ward. Problem is, Ward is 100x better than the stiffs that Duddy has been steamrolling. Let's see how Duddy reacts when he doesn't have a punchless & stationary target in front of him.
Don't expect much from Duddy. He is an exciting fighter, but I see nothing but a Gatti-esque type of career.
He's showing good overall punching but against lower level guys. If he develops a jab He MIGHT be a top MW but I just don't see it.
Duddy the hard puncher and Ward with the good boxing skills. If they fought today who would win? :boxing:
these are two of the boxers i have been talking about for a while.
There is no doubt the ward is the better boxer. But duddy is a viscious animal when it comes to body shots, very mickey ward esq. If duddy were able to connect flush, there is no doubt he would win. But that in its self lies the problem. For duddy to work the body he must sacrifice his head. By sacrificing his head, he is open to get hit. And not just hit once, but multiple times by wards overwhemling speed. Not to mention that if he wants to make it into a war, duddy needs to learn some defense. So all in all, i say Andre ward would eck this out.
Ward against dirrell would be exciting, not as much as dirrell vs duddy