did tyson raped desiree?

of those reported, how many get off? Wasn't Kobe the first? Probably. Kobe is the reason i don't believe iron mic is a rapist, that chick that said Kobe "raped" her had sex with another guy hours after she was "raped" by Kobe, A REAL RAPE VICTIM IS TOO TRAUMATIZED TO FUCK AFTER BEING RAPED. Desiree Washington wanted to be rich and famous and take down mic tyson, WHAT THE FUCK DID SHE GO UP TO HIS HOTEL ROOOM FOR IF IT WASN'T TO FUCK? People don't just go to hotel rooms have private conversations, they can do that in a restaurant. If she goes upstairs to the room willingly, with iron mic tyson, she knows sex is expected and is willing to go along with it

I think the Girl knew about His Rep and His wealth. I've always thought Tyson was set up.

Hes not my hero, but i really feel sorry for him. quit flaming okay, im just telling you some facts and opinions on this, if your not interested, then atleast respect others opinions even if you cant agree to them. What does flaming mean? I think you have the facts wrong which makes you wrong, in my opinion!!

of those reported, how many get off? Wasn't Kobe the first? Probably. Dunno man, but it was supposed to be pretty hard to prove, but I think DNA is helping clear things up.

But you are correct in saying that I don't like Mike Tyson, because I don't at all. Shit, even if he wasn't convicted of raping Desiree Washington, I would no doubt think he's a fucking scumbag...Unlike yourself, I don't look up to, nor will I ever feel sorry for some fuck up who has committed as many despicable acts as he has during his lifetime. did you hate him before he left rooney and went to don king? or his behaviours after jailtime?. what if he was innocent? do you still think his behavours was sick?. if you watch his interview before and after don king you will see its different in behaviours and attitude.

Seriously, how many guys period beat rape accusations anyhow? Thousands - because it's estimated that less than 10% are reported.

Whatever, I think you're full of shit. You're racist I think. Just assume Tyson did it b/c he's black and b/c you don't like him. Go ahead, ignore the clear truth. Even three of the jurors said they'd have changed their verdicts if the white former boyfriend could've testified. LOL! Yeah bro, I'm certainly must be racist, seeing as how I married a woman who is half black and have had a child with her. Also my best boxing bud just happens to be black, and if I was to show this to him, he'd friggin' laugh at you. Nah man, I ain't racist in the least. I have looked up to & admired plenty of black men during my lifetime, and if you knew me from different boxing forums, you'd know that I have spent much time championing many of the great black fighters from the past who have been largely forgotten nowadays (like Sam Langford, Peter Jackson, George Dixon, Panama Joe Gans, George Godfrey, Ike Williams, Kid Chocolate, etc., etc...just a few of my favourite historical fighters and they all happen to be black) But you are correct in saying that I don't like Mike Tyson, because I don't at all. Shit, even if he wasn't convicted of raping Desiree Washington, I would no doubt think he's a fucking scumbag...Unlike yourself, I don't look up to, nor will I ever feel sorry for some fuck up who has committed as many despicable acts as he has during his lifetime. And if you think I'm "full of shit" then you need to do just a bit more reading there, my friend, because everything I've written about the trial in this thread (and other threads) can be found by taking a short trip over to your friendly neighborhood library...Of course, that's if you have the attention span capable of reading more than that single one-page article that you looked up on the net.

she was found to have abrasions in her vagina...not a single abrasion, but abrasions, meaning there were more than one of them (there were two, actually). Those abrasions, according to all of the gynecologists present in court besides a Mrs. Watambe (another Tyson witness), were consistent with the party partaking in nothing less than "rough sex" or possibly "rape". if he raped her, she would defend her self. tyson would had grip her hands, in that occasion she would also had bruise and abrasion on her hands,arm and body. but there were no sign of that beside in her vagina which could easily came from natural sex.

This is what I know of the incident because I think that Tyson didn't do it. Yes they went to Tyson's hotel. It just there is something with this. Desiree was having her period and wore a special type of under wear and it was shown that she decided to leave the under wear in the bathroom. another one is that they have a telephone in the bathroom so if he was being a problem then she could have called for help. another was that people who were to come to Tyson's aid in the trial were for some reason not able to testify. if the court is suppose to be impartial to get the right decision then how come they didn't let them testify. and if they really thought he was guilty then why did he only get 3 years? and because he has denied it I think he is innocent.

I know plenty about the case and if this is any representation of what you know about it, you're the one who's in the dark about it, my friend. What, did you read a single one page article about the trial/case, and now all of a sudden you're a know-it-all? First off, the defense did have witnesses on behalf of Tyson, as a few of the beauty pageant contestants testified on his behalf and were also there to help Fuller paint the picture of Tyson being a "sexual predator". Madelyn Whittington, Tonya Traylor, and Jacqueline Boatwright all testified that Tyson was making sexual advances on them, be it by grabbing their asses or by him straight out asking them for sex (they all outright declined Tyson's sexual advances, which kinda throws your last and third to last paragraphs completely out the window). Tyson also had another witness, who may have been his best one, fail to show up in court. Dale Edwards was the closest to both Desiree & Tyson throughout the night (he was right outside the door when they were in the hotel room), and could've backed up whatever story Tyson had came up with in court...For whatever reason, he failed to show up to testify. There were also three woman who weren't allowed to testify on Tyson's behalf, and that's because the defense didn't bring them fourth until the trial was nearly a week old, which was well after Tyson himself had already taken the stand. These three woman were supposedly going to testify that they saw Tyson & Givens making out in the limo, which was the story Tyson had told the court previously...Remember this is the same Mike Tyson who, in court, couldn't remember having sex the night before the Desiree incident with a rythym & blues singer by the name of Angie B (who gave a deposition), even though in the grand jury arraignment from nearly a year before, Tyson did recall the details of his evening with the singer. As a matter of fact, there was much of Tyson's court story which changed from when he was originally questioned, and much of it had to do with his actions/conversations from that fateful night (including his supposed intentions with Desiree...he originally denied any conversations that had to do with his intentions of having sex, but during the trial he point out said that was clearly his intentions and he said he made it known to Desiree). Now, I don't know about you, but I'm not going to believe a guy who can't remember the night before, but professes to have a clear mind of every little detail of what happened on the night of the rape, and yet has also changed his story pretty drastically over that time. These three "witnesses" were only supposed to be there to confirm a story told by a proven liar, and they weren't made aware to the courts until well after Tyson took the stand...you know, when the defense was already feeling immense pressure to turn things around at all costs($$$)! That's the prosecutions claim that these three woman were paid off in exchange for their testimony...why else would they come forth so late in the trial and when the defense was losing the case? If you think she would've been made ineligible if it was found out that she "only had sex", why wouldn't she just not mention it at all? That was always an option, don't you think? "according to her own testimony, she went into the bathroom of the hotel room, alone, locked the door and took off her panty liner." Sorry, but that's a load of crap! Read that line again, would you? I don't have a single mention of that statement in any of my sources, and I would STRONGLY doubt that was ever said by Desiree in court...you think the jury is going to convict Tyson of rape if that was actually said by Desiree? Come on, man...That's a case killer for any prosecution right there, and had she said that, she would've given a very clear picture that her intention was to have sex. The jury would have NEVER convicted Tyson if she had said that in court...Sorry bro! And as far as the telephone in the bathroom goes, Desiree wouldn't have any need for the telephone at that particular point in time, because she didn't feel in any real danger (Tyson made some non-threatening comments about "wanting her", but nothing aggressive). She had gone to the bathroom to get away from Tyson for a short period of time (about 10 or 15 minutes), and then once Tyson's western was over on television, she came out and asked Mike if they were going to follow through on their previous plans to go out to a couple of celebrity parties...Tyson raped her only a few moments later, after she had sat back down at the very end of the bed. Tyson didn't go to jail because he was a black man. He went to jail because a jury hearing all of the testimony/evidence against Mike thought that he, without a shadow of a doubt, had committed the crime of rape. Even the two black members of the jury found Tyson guilty of raping a black woman, so I don't know how you can view this as a race thing...It pitted black against black! I think I've said this in this thread already, but there was physical evidence...Desiree was checked out the next day, when after she first reported the rape, she then went to get checked out by a gynecologist. And when she was looked at by that gynecologist, she was found to have abrasions in her vagina...not a single abrasion, but abrasions, meaning there were more than one of them (there were two, actually). Those abrasions, according to all of the gynecologists present in court besides a Mrs. Watambe (another Tyson witness), were consistent with the party partaking in nothing less than "rough sex" or possibly "rape". however, she could have had consentual "rough sex" with tyson and then decided there was money in it for her to say RAPE! after all, who'd believe tyson if he said he didnt rape her? especially after robyn 'the gold digger' givens stories of get beat the fuck down on national tv. people want to believe that tyson is an animal, rapist, ear biter ( ok, he really did byte holy's ear off, but u get the idea )

you're the one who doesn't have much info pertaining to the case. Why'd Desiree brag about it to friends if she was raped? Her friend wasn't allowed to testify. Hell, nobody for Tyson's defense was allowed to testify. That former boyfriend of hers, the white dude, wasn't allowed to testify either. She had accused him of rape too. She accused Tyson of rape b/c she was a beauty pageant contestant and they can't fuck b/c of morality rules. She lied to her father about being raped by Tyson, and the former boyfriend as well, b/c her father had put all his money into his daughter's career as a beauty pageant contestant. She would've been made ineligable had it got out that she was having sex. And even according to her own testimony, she went into the bathroom of the hotel room, alone, locked the door and took of her panty liner. There was a very visible telephone in that bathroom that she could've used to call the cops, call hotel security or anything if she had been in any trouble. Tyson's lawyer even questioned her about it. Tyson went to jail b/c he was black and a man accused of rape anyhow. And b/c people didn't love Tyson anyhow at that point. Kobe Bryant was fairly beloved. Tyson, in 1992, was already the bad guy. And he'd already lost a match, proven to no longer be superman. Seriously, how many guys period beat rape accusations anyhow? I'm not saying most of them aren't guilty b/c the vast majority probably are, but you know it'd be easy for a girl to try manipulating a guy or just try getting revenge by crying rape when it really wasn't. Then it is all circumstancial evidence and the jury is going to be out to believe the female 99% of the time. I don't believe for a second that Tyson raped that girl. He went to a beauty pageant and chose her. He could've had any other contestant he wanted, not to mention basically any woman he wanted period. Had she said no, I'm sure they had other girls more than willing to fuck Tyson. I just don't believe he did it. First, the evidence doesn't add up to rape at all. The girl had supposedly already been raped. I've known some rape victims and the couple I've known have been very stand-offish. Who could blame them? They don't want to be put in such a horrible position again. So for this former rape victim to be going with Tyson up to his hotel suite doesn't make any sense. And it doesn't make any sense for Tyson to rape a girl when there was a rather unlimited supply of other girls he could've had in a second. Apparently he could've had a better looking girl too b/c Desiree wasn't the beauty pageant winner, just a contestant. Which yeah, they don't always decide those things on who looks the best, that's for damn sure. I know plenty about the case and if this is any representation of what you know about it, you're the one who's in the dark about it, my friend. What, did you read a single one page article about the trial/case, and now all of a sudden you're a know-it-all? First off, the defense did have witnesses on behalf of Tyson, as a few of the beauty pageant contestants testified on his behalf and were also there to help Fuller paint the picture of Tyson being a "sexual predator". Madelyn Whittington, Tonya Traylor, and Jacqueline Boatwright all testified that Tyson was making sexual advances on them, be it by grabbing their asses or by him straight out asking them for sex (they all outright declined Tyson's sexual advances, which kinda throws your last and third to last paragraphs completely out the window). Tyson also had another witness, who may have been his best one, fail to show up in court. Dale Edwards was the closest to both Desiree & Tyson throughout the night (he was right outside the door when they were in the hotel room), and could've backed up whatever story Tyson had came up with in court...For whatever reason, he failed to show up to testify. There were also three woman who weren't allowed to testify on Tyson's behalf, and that's because the defense didn't bring them fourth until the trial was nearly a week old, which was well after Tyson himself had already taken the stand. These three woman were supposedly going to testify that they saw Tyson & Givens making out in the limo, which was the story Tyson had told the court previously...Remember this is the same Mike Tyson who, in court, couldn't remember having sex the night before the Desiree incident with a rythym & blues singer by the name of Angie B (who gave a deposition), even though in the grand jury arraignment from nearly a year before, Tyson did recall the details of his evening with the singer. As a matter of fact, there was much of Tyson's court story which changed from when he was originally questioned, and much of it had to do with his actions/conversations from that fateful night (including his supposed intentions with Desiree...he originally denied any conversations that had to do with his intentions of having sex, but during the trial he point out said that was clearly his intentions and he said he made it known to Desiree). Now, I don't know about you, but I'm not going to believe a guy who can't remember the night before, but professes to have a clear mind of every little detail of what happened on the night of the rape, and yet has also changed his story pretty drastically over that time. These three "witnesses" were only supposed to be there to confirm a story told by a proven liar, and they weren't made aware to the courts until well after Tyson took the stand...you know, when the defense was already feeling immense pressure to turn things around at all costs($$$)! That's the prosecutions claim that these three woman were paid off in exchange for their testimony...why else would they come forth so late in the trial and when the defense was losing the case? If you think she would've been made ineligible if it was found out that she "only had sex", why wouldn't she just not mention it at all? That was always an option, don't you think? "according to her own testimony, she went into the bathroom of the hotel room, alone, locked the door and took off her panty liner." Sorry, but that's a load of crap! Read that line again, would you? I don't have a single mention of that statement in any of my sources, and I would STRONGLY doubt that was ever said by Desiree in court...you think the jury is going to convict Tyson of rape if that was actually said by Desiree? Come on, man...That's a case killer for any prosecution right there, and had she said that, she would've given a very clear picture that her intention was to have sex. The jury would have NEVER convicted Tyson if she had said that in court...Sorry bro! And as far as the telephone in the bathroom goes, Desiree wouldn't have any need for the telephone at that particular point in time, because she didn't feel in any real danger (Tyson made some non-threatening comments about "wanting her", but nothing aggressive). She had gone to the bathroom to get away from Tyson for a short period of time (about 10 or 15 minutes), and then once Tyson's western was over on television, she came out and asked Mike if they were going to follow through on their previous plans to go out to a couple of celebrity parties...Tyson raped her only a few moments later, after she had sat back down at the very end of the bed. Tyson didn't go to jail because he was a black man. He went to jail because a jury hearing all of the testimony/evidence against Mike thought that he, without a shadow of a doubt, had committed the crime of rape. Even the two black members of the jury found Tyson guilty of raping a black woman, so I don't know how you can view this as a race thing...It pitted black against black! I think I've said this in this thread already, but there was physical evidence...Desiree was checked out the next day, when after she first reported the rape, she then went to get checked out by a gynecologist. And when she was looked at by that gynecologist, she was found to have abrasions in her vagina...not a single abrasion, but abrasions, meaning there were more than one of them (there were two, actually). Those abrasions, according to all of the gynecologists present in court besides a Mrs. Watambe (another Tyson witness), were consistent with the party partaking in nothing less than "rough sex" or possibly "rape".

i google and found a lot of articles about people who agree that they though that tyson was innocent, first of all she knew tyson was out of control and if she follow him up to his hotel what did she expect to happen? when they are alone? why didnt she break out after he raped her? why wait until she came back to her hotel?. i know tyson is not reliable but in this case i belivie him. So, because she should of known it would happen, that meant it was ok? Until this attitude changes, rape victims will always feel guilty about coming forward.

He 'raped' her.

110 students in a southern university were asked to write down whether they considered Mike Tyson guilty or innocent of rape of the beauty contestant for which he was convicted. Ten had no opinion, but of those who did, 80 thought him innocent and only 20 thought him guilty... but thats not the point What do you think she was doing coming to his hotel room at 3am and lying on his bed? Tyson was convicted and sent to prison in Indiana. How come no one acknowledges how so called innocent Desiree, actually lost a countersuit to some other dude not affiliated with Tyson for the same trumped up charges. look it up. In an interview, Mike Tyson denounces Desiree Washington as "just a lying, reptilian, monstrous, young lady. I just hate her guts. She put me in that state where, I don't know, I really wish I did now. Now I really do want to rape her and her fucking mama." How come she didnt have any physical injuries anywhere?? Man Im doing Law in University right now, next year will be my last year, all my 2 brothers have won a lot cases successfully i have some knowledge in this field.. And I saw the Tyson case, there was no evidence provided except a few people who gave their testaments, its all bullshit. Lets admit it, Mike got fucked, hes been fucked in whole life. I dont blame the guy how he was because what happened to him. I have sympathy for Mike Tyson because he was a victim of a conspiracy that led to him being railroaded in the rape case, for which he was sent to prison, that deprived him of what should have been his best fighting years. This conspiracy shamed the American justice system and left deep scars on both the system and the victim. It is well known that Mike is a man who has an extraordinary talent for fighting in the boxing ring. He is also a man who has no talent for business, financial matters and judgement of character. He is a sucker for the financial vultures and human leeches. Mike Tyson is said to be a complex man. I am not sure this is correct. I believe he is basically a simple man but because of the enormous pressures on him his life is made complex and the company he keeps would turn anyone into a complex character Everyone has made a lot of money from his name, leaving him robbed. What are you on? Hes mot complex, hes an idiot. Conspiracy? You think a conspiracy put him behind bars.... What about his inability to comprehend the word 'no'. And I'm laughing my ass off about the 110 greatest students from a southern university coment you made. I hope your not getting your law degree from the same southern university as those 110 morons. The State of Indiana asked 12 jurors what they thought too, and they said your 'hero' was guilty. He's a joke!

after the trial ended, weren't there evidence that Desiree and her mother lied in court? I always thought this too. On the stand, she said she was not going to sue Tyson, she just wanted justice. Within a week of his conviction she filed a civil suit against him. The judge should have let Tyson out and locked her up for perjury. Also, Tyson's lawyer strategy was to portray Tyson as an animal. He said everyone including Desiree knew this thus she knew what she was asking for going up to his room. Many legal experts have said not only was this a risky defense, it bordered on incompetence.

im wondering why would mike tyson need to rape? he pimps bad! Id say, IF he did, that he was used to fucking girls whenever and however he wanted. So he just started fucking like the beast he is. He wasnt used to the "no" word.

i dont belive he did it but i truly belive he was capable of doing it, he looks like he didnt have any control over himself from early 1990 and after he got ko by douglas i think he is f3ck up badly. Your kidding right? You don't think he did it? But you truly believe he was capable of doing it... He rammed his pickle so far up her ass she still walks funny.

im wondering why would mike tyson need to rape? he pimps bad!

also to boot, she cried raped before too. falsely accusing a guy that she was with in high school.....http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n21_v83/ai_13610075 it's unimportant and old news but it backs up what i was saying before, girls do things like that, not all but there are some out there that really do...... Are you aware that Desiree's father was a very strict & very violent man, who had continiously physically assaulted both Desiree and especially her mother (which were confirmed by a number of police reports iun regards to his violence against both)? She thought that guy had gotten her pregnant, and as a way of avoiding her father's violent wrath...Hey, I could bring up Tyson's past, as well; "He(Tyson) was continually getting into trouble with girls, stories that were stifled by people protecting him and the millions of dollars he promised to earn with his brutal fists. Hush money was paid to keep girls - and at least one mother - quiet." "Erinn Crosby, 25-year-old daughter of Bill Crosby, revealed on a television show that Tyson had agreed to undergo psychotherapy three years earlier. This was at the urging of Bill Cosby after his daughter had told her parents that he had tried to sexually assault her." "Jim Jacobs was talking soon after shelling out several thousand dollars to buy the silence of a mother in Catskill who had complained to him that Tyson had sexually assaulted her teenage daughter." "Another little publicized incident led to Tyson breaking with his then trainer Teddy Atlas, who had looked after him from his earliest amateur days. It was reported to Atlas that Tyson, then a 16 year-old unknown, had sexually abused a 12 year-old girl." "31 December 1988: Tyson's year ends with the sort of confusion and controversy that has marked it from day one. Not one but two women have come forward to accuse him of sexual harassment on the same night at a night club in Manhattan (the two women are named Sandra Miller & Lori Davis)." "This time, there was no Jim Jacobs or Cus D'Amato to get him off the hook, as had been the case with previous sex-driven incidents." "Jim Jacobs had confided to us that he had once paid the family of a girl alleging uninvited sex with Tyson several thousand dollars to hush everything up." "And then he (Tyson's lawyer, Vince Fuller) depicted him (Tyson) as a notorious sexual predator." "Phyllis Polaner, former aid of Givens, announces on 17 August (1990) that she is suing Tyson for alleged sexual assault and harassment." Shit, that was just but a few of the numerous mentions of Tyson's past sexual "troubles", and that was from only one book (and I scimmed over it, with no doubt having missed some worthwhile mentions).

after the trial ended, weren't there evidence that Desiree and her mother lied in court?