If Hopkins beats Taylor do you believe there will be a 3rd fight?

it will depend how the fight ends, if hopkins knocks him out early or wins by a big margin on the scorecards then i dont think there'll be a 3rd fight ( unless theres a rematch clause in the contract) but if its another close fight then there MIGHT be a 3rd.

hes young but its not like hes 20 is it, he had a good pedigree as an amateur and 20 odd fights is a good amount of fights as a pro. I also think hes in the wrong weight division imo he should be 168. If hop wins retires as he said he will come late january then its left to taylor and wright (assuming he wins against sam) to determine who the new no1 is. Like i said before it IS better for the future of the division if taylor stamps his authority in this fight and shows the world that he is the genuine no1, however if he loses a close one hes got to pick up the pieces and re-establish himself. for me he needs to win this fight big to show me he has a good chance of staying up there well he's not exactly a young pup, but only 27. And youre right, 24 pro fights doenst make him a newbie, but thats nothing compared to Nards 51 fights. I do agree he should move up to S. Middle evuentally though. I think he'd be more natural at that wt . My main point is pretty much the same thing you already pointed out...that out of those 24 pro fights, Nard was the only real "stiff" competition so far. I think he handled himself well considering who he was fighting and the pressure/excitement/expectations of the fans and the crowd, etc. I do wish he beat Nard by a larger margin (I only had him up a rd. or two too) and hope he really REALLY dominates him tonight. I think him being top dog would be good for the sport and the division. I'd much rather he be the middle wt. champ than winky...as nice a guy as winky is, he's just not as exciting. But, on the other hand, winkys also spent most of his career being underappreciated and avoided, so he deserves alot of glory before he finally hangs up his gloves. Fair or not, the way I see it is Nards had his time to shine...plenty of it, and it's time for some new blood. Either winky or taylor, it couldnt happen to nicer guys.

hes young but its not like hes 20 is it, he had a good pedigree as an amateur and 20 odd fights is a good amount of fights as a pro. I also think hes in the wrong weight division imo he should be 168. If hop wins retires as he said he will come late january then its left to taylor and wright (assuming he wins against sam) to determine who the new no1 is. Like i said before it IS better for the future of the division if taylor stamps his authority in this fight and shows the world that he is the genuine no1, however if he loses a close one hes got to pick up the pieces and re-establish himself. for me he needs to win this fight big to show me he has a good chance of staying up there

yes it does to a degree but its the way you beat someone too, squeaking out a decision over a 40 year old champ is not as impressive as out-boxing, out-fighting, stopping etc the same champ in his prime. i think his age has contributed alot to how he fights and contributed towards that loss, obviously jermains double jab and work rate helped early on but if it had been the younger hop he would have beaten taylor in july. Taylor is the best hops fought for a couple of years but unless he wins clearly tonight i will still have reservasions about him being able to stay no1 for long All true, but, if you are going to take Nards age and amazing record into consideration, then alteast take into consideration Taylors age and lack of experience. He's still very young, very green, with alot of room for improvement. I'm not saying he'll rule as middle king forever or even successfully defend it once..I am saying that beating the king, as inexperienced as he is at this time and level..is a great way to start. Who knows what the future might hold, and theres a big gap in the division if Nard wins and retires immediately after isnt there?

yes it does to a degree but its the way you beat someone too, squeaking out a decision over a 40 year old champ is not as impressive as out-boxing, out-fighting, stopping etc the same champ in his prime. i think his age has contributed alot to how he fights and contributed towards that loss, obviously jermains double jab and work rate helped early on but if it had been the younger hop he would have beaten taylor in july. Taylor is the best hops fought for a couple of years but unless he wins clearly tonight i will still have reservasions about him being able to stay no1 for long

as good as hop is age has to be a factor, its not an excuse its a reason. Hopkins circa 96 - 01 imo his best years would of slaughtered taylor. Hop has been on the slide for the last 3 years noticably. Taylor imo won the first by a roundish, i watched it this afternoon again and had him 1 point up, however there were two or three rounds where you could have scored one way or another and not been far wrong, if those scores had been the same and gone to hop instead i still would feel the same, taylor does not overly impress me. Overall its best for the division if he dominates b this time and wins easy by wide points or stoppage but i cant see that happening. Hop isnt shot but he is regressing as a fighter, its not an excuse its simple fact thats why his style has changed the last 3 years or so Although thats true, none of that has caused him to lose a fight. He's been unbeaten for yr's until Taylor came along...that alone should impress many fans I would think. Doing what nobody else has been able to do says alot.

as good as hop is age has to be a factor, its not an excuse its a reason. Hopkins circa 96 - 01 imo his best years would of slaughtered taylor. Hop has been on the slide for the last 3 years noticably. Taylor imo won the first by a roundish, i watched it this afternoon again and had him 1 point up, however there were two or three rounds where you could have scored one way or another and not been far wrong, if those scores had been the same and gone to hop instead i still would feel the same, taylor does not overly impress me. Overall its best for the division if he dominates b this time and wins easy by wide points or stoppage but i cant see that happening. Hop isnt shot but he is regressing as a fighter, its not an excuse its simple fact thats why his style has changed the last 3 years or so

....I totaly agree and I had Taylor winning the first fight. Nard was never one of my favorites but I always respected and kind of liked him. The bitching from him and his fans has me wanting Taylor to whip his ass tomorrow night. Yeah, me too. The sad thing is, even if Taylor beats him convincingly, there willl be plenty of REASONS why...past his prime, wt. drained, too tight socks, abducted by aliens the night before, poor diet, God only knows. :rolleyes:

Did anyone else here Bhop's interview with James Brown.

Taylor wanted a rematch right after the fight, 'cause he knew he didn't win, check the transcripts. Now, if he's really believing all the hype, and actually has convinced himself that he DID win the fight, ok, let's define terms here, Taylor won the MATCH, Hopkins won the FIGHT, so, if Taylor's confident, just 'cause he's got some belts around his waist, he's in T-R-O-U-B-L-E. Now, if all his talk is just pre-fight promotion, and he DOES have respect for the man, he's got a chance. But a 3rd fight if Taylor loses? Nah, let B-Hop go after history and fight Tarver, then hang 'em up.

LOUD APPLAUSE, ALL AROUND! ....I totaly agree and I had Taylor winning the first fight. Nard was never one of my favorites but I always respected and kind of liked him. The bitching from him and his fans has me wanting Taylor to whip his ass tomorrow night.

Hmmm will Nard give Taylor a remtach if he wins...I dont know I guess it all depends on what the fight looks like. My bet would be that Nard goes back to doing what Nard does best... Which is beating up on smaller fighters. AKA he fights Winky in an unbearable fight too watch. The only question in this match would be is HBO stupid enough to pay these guys PPV type money... both men are similiar to Floyd in 1 respect...they think they are worth about 6x's what they will be offered!

Last time I remember, Taylor was the one dying for the rematch.. That's not the way I see it. Hopkins has done nothing but cry about Duane Ford scoring the last round for Taylor since the end of the last fight. What about Jeremy Roth scoring the fight 116-112 for Hopkins?? :confused: The fight was damn close and for Bhop to cry the way he has is just embarrassing for a fighter of his caliber.

Yes, and one final note I cant stand this Taylor was given a gift crap. He won rounds 1-5, maybe 6, and 8. I know Hopkins won the last round but one judge gave Hopkins round 3 which he lost, so who cares? In this fight the only time Hopkins scored was after Taylor was burned out, so of which had to due with that nasty cut. I see Taylor being technicaly a little better and just taking his time. (Hopkins is going down) Peace out LOUD APPLAUSE, ALL AROUND!

Last time I remember, Taylor was the one dying for the rematch.. Lol, he is?? Since when? I cant imagine why...he IS the champ, after all. If he is, it's honestly the first I've heard of it...Nard is the one with something to prove...not just Taylor.

If Jermain loses, he wont be deserving of a rubber match??? Thats wrong...Jermain is giving B-Hop a rematch and another chance to prove he's still the man...so the least Nard could do (if he does win tomorrow night) is give the guy a third fight. What good does it do the sport or division if Nard won and then retired? Me not get it :confused: Last time I remember, Taylor was the one dying for the rematch..

Yes, and one final note I cant stand this Taylor was given a gift crap. He won rounds 1-5, maybe 6, and 8. I know Hopkins won the last round but one judge gave Hopkins round 3 which he lost, so who cares? In this fight the only time Hopkins scored was after Taylor was burned out, so of which had to due with that nasty cut. I see Taylor being technicaly a little better and just taking his time. (Hopkins is going down) Peace out

Taylor was overmatched in the first fight, he was given a gift..when Hop exposes Taylor to his ability at his young age,,there wont b a need for a rematch...Jermaine wont b deserving, plus if he fights again it should b against Winky, Lacy, or Jones Jr..why should he have 2 beat up on Taylor 3times If Jermain loses, he wont be deserving of a rubber match??? Thats wrong...Jermain is giving B-Hop a rematch and another chance to prove he's still the man...so the least Nard could do (if he does win tomorrow night) is give the guy a third fight. What good does it do the sport or division if Nard won and then retired? Me not get it :confused:

Yeah, Jones would clown Hopkins all night :rolleyes: , STFU,Jones has looked awful his last three fights, Nard would get his payback.

i don't think that he would give taylor a re-match he will prob. have 1 or 2 fights left if he should win this one and he can make more money fighting rjj,tarver, or winky ....rubber matches ussually do not do well unless the 1st. two were foy type fights ...