'World' Champion??

What is Evil Saint talking about :confused:

how can you generalise like this, juy is one person, he doesnt represent the nation

You know that we do have something of a reality in the UK as well?! reality in the UK is not the same as reality in, well, reality. just look at JUYJUY and how warped his perception of the world is.

JUYJUY, you ever hear about this place outside of the UK called "reality" or "the world"? its really cool out here, feel free to join us. You know that we do have something of a reality in the UK as well?!

someone has to unify the belts.

Who gives a shit about The Ring's opinion? I mean, it's only an opinion from an American publication. Judge for yourself, that's the conclusion I've come to. people have bias i would like to think that floyd mayweather is the number one light welter in the world right now, but he cant be ranked number one. ring is a compilation of informed boxing writers, so for the most part, that bias is erased

What are you talking about? i rest my case.

JUYJUY, you ever hear about this place outside of the UK called "reality" or "the world"? its really cool out here, feel free to join us. What are you talking about?

JUYJUY, you ever hear about this place outside of the UK called "reality" or "the world"? its really cool out here, feel free to join us.

KO Mag was a much better read than The Ring. http://img108.echo.cx/img108/3482/k5tv.jpg u only like em cuz they hug eubanks nuts like you.

ur just being a sore loser. KO Mag was a much better read than The Ring. http://img108.echo.cx/img108/3482/k5tv.jpg

The Ring is corrupted, always has been. Nat Fleischer was a diabolical bastard - if you were one of his personal favourites then he made you over-rated, but if you were somebody he didn't personally admire then he made you under-rated.. it didn't matter how good you were. ur just being a sore loser.

they've been around longer than you. they know more than you. they've seen more than you. they've been around the sport a lot longer than you have. maybe not the actual writers, but the magazine and its standards have. having said that, doesnt that give you some kinda clue like maybe they know more about boxing than you do? The Ring is corrupted, always has been. Nat Fleischer was a diabolical bastard - if you were one of his personal favourites then he made you over-rated, but if you were somebody he didn't personally admire then he made you under-rated.. it didn't matter how good you were.

Who gives a shit about The Ring's opinion? I mean, it's only an opinion from an American publication. Judge for yourself, that's the conclusion I've come to. they've been around longer than you. they know more than you. they've seen more than you. they've been around the sport a lot longer than you have. maybe not the actual writers, but the magazine and its standards have. having said that, doesnt that give you some kinda clue like maybe they know more about boxing than you do?

That's why they have Ring Magazine. Do yourself a favor and pick up a copy. We all know boxing's ABC organizations are shit, and we've been over that a million times. Until it's fixed, get the Ring. Who gives a shit about The Ring's opinion? I mean, it's only an opinion from an American publication. Judge for yourself, that's the conclusion I've come to.

Good point about the business side of it and the fact that the belts are here to stay. I might change my tune when we finally get an undisputed heavyweight champion. The current champs carry no mana as far as I'm concerned. Remember when Tyson, Holmes and Ali etc ducked NO challenger, no matter how dangerous they were? These days they just seem to want to duck each other while still claiming to be the champ.

no belts: ur either a contender, a bum, or an uncrowned champion. 1 belt: ur a world champion. 2 or 3 belts: ur a unified champion. all 4 belts: ur THE undisputed champion. if u dont have any of the 4 belts, ur not a world champion, regardless of any arguements to the contrary. if you have 1, 2, or 3 of the belts, u CANNOT say that u are the undisputed champion. you CANNOT allow any1 the right to say that they are A or THE champion at the same time as you call urself the undisputed champ. dont give any1 the time of day to say otherwise. only when you have the WBC, WBA, IBF, and WBO titles can you consider yourself the undisputed champion. i can understand and respect all this "the belts dont matter" arguement, but it pains me to aknowledge that boxing is no longer a sport, its a business and in this business, the promoters, the managers, the journalists, the analysts, the experts, the magazines, and the fans all must recognize the belts. the belts have become a prison that is impossible to escape. to be a world champ or THE champ, you have to win the belts. not only are the belts part of the business, but they are part of tradition.

I do get The Ring. In fact, it's the only one I get. The fact is, we don't have a World Heavyweight Champ at the moment. It's a sad situation.

hmm That's why they have Ring Magazine. Do yourself a favor and pick up a copy. We all know boxing's ABC organizations are shit, and we've been over that a million times. Until it's fixed, get the Ring.