What now for the Heavyweight division?

To go back to hurricanes main point. I think he is right when he says that there are no big fighters to rule the division these days. As much as I rate Toney and I do think he is a fantastic fighter I dont think he is the answer to a weight division that has struggled to catch the publics attention for a long time now. There was even talk of a title shot for the winner of the Skelton/Mcbride fight. Are we that desperate? :boxing:

I'll admit toney is one of the best at the moment. BUT I have read so many stories contradicting what he and his team have said regarding his positive drugs sample that I just dont know how to take the guy. i dont really worry about that too much, its sad that drugs are a part of sports now but i really dont think it is going to go away. i just want to see a highly skilled and charismatic fighter win in the hw division, and that person right now is toney.

I'll admit toney is one of the best at the moment. BUT I have read so many stories contradicting what he and his team have said regarding his positive drugs sample that I just dont know how to take the guy.

what now for the heavyweight division? james "lights out" toney, will win titles in his fourth division and continue his hall of fame career. toney is the most tactical skill boxer today.

The Heavys Are Finished, Whos Left Now Chris Byrd He Should Fly Away, Hasim Kackman Couldnt Box For Toffee, The Pie Eating Steroid Abusing Toney,

I think the point hurricanehardly was trying to get across was the state of the heavyweight division. :boxing: If you read what he (or she) has wrote you will see that they are not trying to start a debate about who was better than who. But the point is that there is not one individual who can stand up there and proclaim to be a great fighter. :Thinkingo

what im saying is nobody has took hold of the division the way tyson and the others have before him, tyson dominated from 1986 when he defeated trevor berbick to 1990 when he lost to buster douglas, the other world champs after him, the belts passed between more than 1 fighter, could you say holyfield and lewis did this.

what great opposition did holyfield and lewis beat? yes the washed up tyson. And im not just on about tyson im just saying nobody has took hold of the division that tyson once did and the other old fighters of before him. They are all around the same age....they should have been just as washed up.....I am not saying they beat great opposition just better than Mike I am not going to have a pissing match and say this and that....If you want to find out what people think make a poll thread on who people think beat better opposition out of the three and you will get your answer I am quite sure Tyson will come out last.

what great opposition did holyfield and lewis beat? yes the washed up tyson. And im not just on about tyson im just saying nobody has took hold of the division that tyson once did and the other old fighters of before him.

hey reasead Whats up how are you? can I get in on the USC/Fresno St. action or are you all booked up?

hey reasead

Bring back the old school, not since a young tyson broke onto the boxing scene in the 80s has anybody took the heavyweight division by the scruff of the neck and dominated the division, only Holmes before him and he was robbed at the hands of spinks and destroyed by tyson at the end of his career. holyfield and bowe boxed it out in the 90s, lewis beat dead wood in 2000 onward and who the hell did quitsklo defeat nobodies. About time somebody took a hold on the once baddest division on the planet. Bring back the 50s 60s 70s 80s cos the rest were garbage. the lower divisions now dominate. Lewis and Holyfield beat far better opposition than Tyson ever did over there careers....Tyson is so overrated.

you heard of boxer rubin hurricane carter, put away in jail for something he didnt do. I will carry his name on

why hurricane hardy for a name