Who wins Manny or Erik Morales

lets just for get about the Raheem fight ever happen right its hard not to overlook that lost and the weight problems Morales was having. he was done as a fighter his best days were long gone yet no one was saying morales was done at the time,,, hell he was even the favorite to win on this poll... Hindsight is always 20/20,, Manny should get full credit for winning the rematch and stopping morales,,, the third fight not so much,

The revisionists who say Morales was shot and old but no one was saying that during the time. Morales was a beast until Pacquiao dominated him and all the excuses came out. lets just for get about the Raheem fight ever happen right its hard not to overlook that lost and the weight problems Morales was having. he was done as a fighter his best days were long gone

The revisionists who say Morales was shot and old but no one was saying that during the time. Morales was a beast until Pacquiao dominated him and all the excuses came out.

If I Recall Correctly. It might've been fake injury issues, but I'm pretty sure I remember Raheem taking all his momentum and squandering it away over menial things. Ok, thanks

That may be true, i have no knowledge on his contract demands, By the way,,, what does iirc stand for. I can't ever figure it out.. If I Recall Correctly. It might've been fake injury issues, but I'm pretty sure I remember Raheem taking all his momentum and squandering it away over menial things.

To be fair Raheem didn't exactly make himself easy to negotiate with at the time, he was somewhat pricing himself out of fights like he was named Winky IIRC. That may be true, i have no knowledge on his contract demands, By the way,,, what does iirc stand for. I can't ever figure it out..

Very true,,, honestly I understand doing manny-morales 2, since manny lost and morales lost to Raheem at higher weight... What bothers me is that Raheem got shafted and didn't land a big fight for another year or so... I thought Raheem had done enough to get a shot at Juan Diaz or corrales or Castillo... To be fair Raheem didn't exactly make himself easy to negotiate with at the time, he was somewhat pricing himself out of fights like he was named Winky IIRC.

:bottle::bottle:You've attempted to pass me four bottles today and I feel like none have been remotely justified. What I'm left wondering is if junior gong is this desperate at this point, what does that say for the well-being of the entire population here on NSB?

Oh yeah, and let's all forget the fact that Manny was fighting at Super BW for the first time against Erik.

Even then people recognized that Morales was being rewarded for being embarrassed by Raheem. Very true,,, honestly I understand doing manny-morales 2, since manny lost and morales lost to Raheem at higher weight... What bothers me is that Raheem got shafted and didn't land a big fight for another year or so... I thought Raheem had done enough to get a shot at Juan Diaz or corrales or Castillo...

:bottle::bottle: :lol1: I'm dying right now.

There are other factors that come into play here, in 2005 Philippines was just starting to have netcafes and widely available internet while countries like the United States and Mexico had already had had it for some time. Globalization and the internet was just heavily coming into play at that point, and around 06/07 is when SkyNet became self-aware. :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :fing02:

There are other factors that come into play here, in 2005 Philippines was just starting to have netcafes and widely available internet while countries like the United States and Mexico had already had had it for some time. Globalization and the internet was just heavily coming into play at that point, and around 06/07 is when SkyNet became self-aware. If anything it shows how little people have thought of Manny his entire career when they admit Morales has looked terrible in his last two fights and still consider it a good fight for Manny.........http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/losing-it.gif:bottle::bottle:

I think Morales wins on points but this fight shouldnt even be happening - it should be Raheem fighting either guy. No way should Morales be basically rewarded for fu*&ing up. Surely he himself wants to take care of Raheem as well. Its a shame I really wanted him to beat Barrera and Pacquiao and everyone he faced cos him, James Toney and Ricky Hatton are my favourite fighters but he seems to have lost his way which is something i never thought i'd say about el terrible. I hope he wins this and I think he will but then he has to fight Raheem again, and this time give the performance he is capable of. I think if he fought him again he would be a lot more focussed and a lot more 'up' for it. Even then people recognized that Morales was being rewarded for being embarrassed by Raheem.

There are other factors that come into play here, in 2005 Philippines was just starting to have netcafes and widely available internet while countries like the United States and Mexico had already had had it for some time. Globalization and the internet was just heavily coming into play at that point, and around 06/07 is when SkyNet became self-aware. If anything it shows how little people have thought of Manny his entire career when they admit Morales has looked terrible in his last two fights and still consider it a good fight for Manny.

Bump,,, Funny how no one on this thread says that morales is old or past prime, even the guys picking manny,, but know you have revisionist idiots always saying morales was shot,, and morales even was the favorite on the poll... Lmao at the idiots saying morales was shot and old EPIC BUMP! :headbang:

Bump,,, Funny how no one on this thread says that morales is old or past prime, even the guys picking manny,, but know you have revisionist idiots always saying morales was shot,, and morales even was the favorite on the poll... Lmao at the idiots saying morales was shot and old

Your arguments are horrid. During Barrera - Pac Barrera was going through some "problems" back home in Mexico, and he fired his long time manager/friend. He also was underprepared/underfocused because his training camp was delayed because of a fire at Big Bear Mountain. If you can use your pathetic excuses, then I'll use mine. Morales UD Pacqiaou. Morales can adapt to different styles, and physically he is much stronger then Pacqiaou. Once he figures out the one-dimensionality of Pac and circles away from the left cross, Pac will clearly get frustrated and get outfoxed / outgunned by Erik. like I said, ta headbutt was a big factor aswell. Joe Cortez, ta ref said, it was caused by a punch ratha than accidental headbutt. If ta fight had been stopped due to cuts, Pac would lose by TKO. Becuz of tis, Pacquiao got worried so he decided to abndon ta plan which was hit Morales in ta belly and head alternately. HE TRIED TO KO MORALES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IN WORRY THAt TA REF WOULD STOP TA FIGHT ANY SECONDS. He was outfocsued becuz of ta headbutt, and ta ref who called it cause by a punch. MAN, STOP WIT TA FUCKIN Barrera excuses. Barrera was prepared fo Pac that night. Can you not jest give Barrera credit fo lasting 11 rounds against a hungry dtermined Pacquiao??? Barrera was on top form. If he wasn't, he woulnt have lasted 11 rounds on a healthy, determined Pacquiao!Pacquiao hit him wit errrthing and only managed to drop Barrera twice legitimately, ta 1 in round 11 not so legit. STOP WIT TA EXCUSES. If Barrera wasn't prepared Pac woulda KOed his ass in 5 rounds plain and simple!

My money would be on Morales...If Pac tries the same thing it'll be the same outcome...Morales can box and Pac doesn't do all that well when people aren't trading with him (JMM learned this and came close to pulling that fight out)...

80% becuz Pac was unfocused wit all ta promoter/Roach fighting. Pac also fired his ole ti8me manager to replace by Finkel. Morales makin Pac wear Winning. LOL!!!! Also, accidental headbutt, and CORTEZ call it a PUNCH! LOL! I bet Pac became unfocused and pissed when Cortez said it's cause by a punch instead of a headbutt. AND IT SHOWED!!!! When Cortez said it was cause by punch, Pac got all worried and trie to KO Morales as soon as possible that he dint go to ta body anymo which was ta PLAN. LOL! Morales is as good as dead in ta rematch! Your arguments are horrid. During Barrera - Pac Barrera was going through some "problems" back home in Mexico, and he fired his long time manager/friend. He also was underprepared/underfocused because his training camp was delayed because of a fire at Big Bear Mountain. If you can use your pathetic excuses, then I'll use mine. Morales UD Pacqiaou. Morales can adapt to different styles, and physically he is much stronger then Pacqiaou. Once he figures out the one-dimensionality of Pac and circles away from the left cross, Pac will clearly get frustrated and get outfoxed / outgunned by Erik.