I can't believe so many writers and fans are callign VK a coward and "unchampion-like" for pulling out of the fight. I'm disappointed but WTF can you do? Just because Vitali is injured doesn't mean he's a coward, it means he's injured. I refuse to believe that he is pulling this injury shit because he's scared of Rahman, no fucking way. The man fought a war with Lennox, but yeah he's a little pussy when it comes to Rahman? All these haters are nothing but a bunch of keyboard cowboys trying to boost their always-small ego by trashing someone who would completely murder them in reality.
I think if Roy jones could fight with a broken hand , and JMM can fight with a broken nose , VK can fight with a knee brace on ..
Thats just my opinion though .
Phillips was a decent fighter for a quite some time after beating Tszyu. More decent than Tszyu throwing a beating to an aging Chavez, who was coming off a loss to journeyman Willy Wise and was inactive. I remember people calling that fight suicide in most papers and Tszyu was trying to justify taking it, or should I say taking the DKP payday.
That stoppage was pretty brutal, and by the time he had a few tune ups, Phillips had been knocked out by Teron Milette.
But regardless, that has little to do with Vitali, who only held 1/4th of the title that he won off a 38 year old Corrie Sanders and defended once agaisnt Danny Williams before this one year excuse train took off.
People could live with Tszyu's inactivity because he was a unifed and proven great champion. The same can't be said about Vitali in the least.
There are so many people fed up with this, and they have a right to be.
I dont want to see an Old Phillips against an Old Kostya. I think we all know who'd win that.
People on here say, anti-Klitschko boxing fans are xenophobic. Not at all. There is a fine difference between Kostya and Vitali. Kostyas resume is impressive and people found his injury to be legitimate.
Vitali has fought Danny Williams and Corrie Sanders... Now it's his turn to fight an ex-champ whose committed full time to boxing (unlike Sanders) in Rahman and he gets hurt FOUR times? The latest time the doctor okays him to return to fight with a knee brace and he opts out of fighting? (PS: Chavez fought Floyd with a knee brace and Rahman is not a Mayweather caliber fighter).
Does Vitali think we're stupid? He said he wanted to fight Danny Williams because Williams crushed his dream of fighting Mike Tyson. Can you believe that Oaf Vitali is still hell bent on fighting an Old Tyson?
Fans, including myself, are tired of Vitali taking the easy road. I find it ironic that Rahman told the WBC that Vitali didn't want to fight him months ago and how signing this match would be like pulling teeth. Rahman was TOO right on that prediction. Very prophetic words from Rahman in retrospect.
Who's problem is it that Rahman did not pay his taxes and wasted all of his money? The fact that Rahman is broke has nothing to do with anything. I don't feel for Rahman, he squandered millions on bullshit, did not pay his taxes and I should feel sorry? Vitali has not hand selected anyone. Why did Tszyu never rematch Phillips?
Because Phillips turned into a crack head and ruined the rest of his career.
Phillips was a decent fighter for a quite some time after beating Tszyu. More decent than Tszyu throwing a beating to an aging Chavez, who was coming off a loss to journeyman Willy Wise and was inactive. I remember people calling that fight suicide in most papers and Tszyu was trying to justify taking it, or should I say taking the DKP payday.
bullshit, you're a fucking Klitschko faggot. Come on, now you're trying to claim it wasn't Vitali's fault for the fights being postponed. OMFG, what a bunch of faggots you Klitschko fans are.
Rahman and Barret both came out publicly and said they'd be ready to fight Sept 24th if that's what it took, even knowing they had to fight in August. See, they have something called heart. Something a Klitschko, or a fan of a Klitschko, lacks.
Barret and Rahman were willing to be professionals. Vitali wants to play games like a little kid. Faking injuries and shit. Come on, who are you kidding?
I don't know about heart, but I know what you lack - intellegence and respect. Calling someone a fucking Klitschko faggot proves nothing but the fact that you have no respect for people. I could call you a racist homophobe hiding behind the keyboard but what would that prove for the sake of the subject of the discussion? Absolutely nothing.
. Tszyu was out of the ring for two years, and he had all three belts, Mitchell had to fight about 5 guys before their rematch even took place. Nobody was calling Tszyu's injuries bullshit or looking for him to get stripped. When the WBA stripped him, people were actually pissed and complaining.
Tszyu was an established great fighter, a future Hall of Famer, and pound for pound elite.
Vitali was inactive in fighting Sanders and Williams (soft opposition) before all this non sense started.
People have every right to be upset. He was over hyped and unaccomplished before all of this happened, and now it's doubtfull he'll fight until well into the new year.
Kostya was the undisputed champ. Kostya had respect from his peers. Kostya wasnt known for hand selecting opponents like Vitali has. Thats why much respect ws given to Kostya. Kostya also wasn't ducking anyone like Vitali.
Vitalis backing out has screwed Rahman in the worst way. Vitali isnt in debt. Rahmans in debt and he's been waiting a year for a fight that hasn't materialized. The average fan could feel for Rahman and what he's going through.
Fans of boxing, like myself, don't buy those "injuries" Vitali has suffered from "joggin" of all activities. :rolleyes:
Who's problem is it that Rahman did not pay his taxes and wasted all of his money? The fact that Rahman is broke has nothing to do with anything. I don't feel for Rahman, he squandered millions on bullshit, did not pay his taxes and I should feel sorry? Vitali has not hand selected anyone. Why did Tszyu never rematch Phillips?
Kostya was the undisputed champ. Kostya had respect from his peers. Kostya wasnt known for hand selecting opponents like Vitali has. Thats why much respect ws given to Kostya. Kostya also wasn't ducking anyone like Vitali.
Vitalis backing out has screwed Rahman in the worst way. Vitali isnt in debt. Rahmans in debt and he's been waiting a year for a fight that hasn't materialized. The average fan could feel for Rahman and what he's going through.
Fans of boxing, like myself, don't buy those "injuries" Vitali has suffered from "joggin" of all activities. :rolleyes:
Watch your conduct. Your statement is unrealistic. People don't get surgery for fake injuries. Vitali is losing just as much money, maybe more so, than Rahman, for sitting on the bench. I never saw so many people hating. Tszyu was out of the ring for two years, and he had all three belts, Mitchell had to fight about 5 guys before their rematch even took place. Nobody was calling Tszyu's injuries bullshit or looking for him to get stripped. When the WBA stripped him, people were actually pissed and complaining. Vitali is out one year and people are losing their minds. Rahman looked like dogshit in his last fight and has not won a major fight since Lewis, I seriously doubt Vitali is ducking him.
Watch your conduct. Your statement is unrealistic. People don't get surgery for fake injuries. Vitali is losing just as much money, maybe more so, than Rahman, for sitting on the bench. I never saw so many people hating. Tszyu was out of the ring for two years, and he had all three belts, Mitchell had to fight about 5 guys before their rematch even took place. Nobody was calling Tszyu's injuries bullshit or looking for him to get stripped. When the WBA stripped him, people were actually pissed and complaining. Vitali is out one year and people are losing their minds. Rahman looked like dogshit in his last fight and has not won a major fight since Lewis, I seriously doubt Vitali is ducking him.
Wow, this statement has just owned all haters.
bullshit, you're a fucking Klitschko faggot. Come on, now you're trying to claim it wasn't Vitali's fault for the fights being postponed. OMFG, what a bunch of faggots you Klitschko fans are.
Rahman and Barret both came out publicly and said they'd be ready to fight Sept 24th if that's what it took, even knowing they had to fight in August. See, they have something called heart. Something a Klitschko, or a fan of a Klitschko, lacks.
Barret and Rahman were willing to be professionals. Vitali wants to play games like a little kid. Faking injuries and shit. Come on, who are you kidding?
Watch your conduct. Your statement is unrealistic. People don't get surgery for fake injuries. Vitali is losing just as much money, maybe more so, than Rahman, for sitting on the bench. I never saw so many people hating. Tszyu was out of the ring for two years, and he had all three belts, Mitchell had to fight about 5 guys before their rematch even took place. Nobody was calling Tszyu's injuries bullshit or looking for him to get stripped. When the WBA stripped him, people were actually pissed and complaining. Vitali is out one year and people are losing their minds. Rahman looked like dogshit in his last fight and has not won a major fight since Lewis, I seriously doubt Vitali is ducking him.
nah man, i don't do that.
i don't like the inactivity as much as anybody else. i just don't go dissing pro fighters as they have more to lose then mere fans.
i really don't mind opposing opinions either, so long as they're factual.
didn't see ya post bozo, actually, the back surgery fixed the thigh problem as it was a result of a pinched nerve, not a pulled hamstring. look it up if you don't believe me.
bet you wouldn't call me a faggot to my face. hide behind your keyboard you little bitch.
i didn't call you names, but you want to start some shit, be prepared to back it up. your ass is lucky you probably don't live whithin a 50 mile radius of me, otherwise i'd say come down to where i train, and get your ass beat.
Something a Klitschko, or a fan of a Klitschko, lacks.
oh really?
Monte Barrett and Hasim Rahman have heart but Wlad doesn't?
Is that why he got up off the canvas multiple times to beat Peter....and got up from knockdowns in the Sanders, Brewster, and Williamson fights?
Because he lacks heart?
Dont get Vitali confused with Wlad by making a blanket statement regarding both brothers.
Vitali is not Wlad.
If you say Wlad has no heart......you are misinformed.
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2 - vitali was ready for a september showdown, but dk has made people believe, somehow, that he claimed to be ready after the barret/rahman fight was signed. this was dk's way of making vitali even more inactive by not allowing vk to fight against a top ranked competitor to remain busy while rhaman vs barret was scheduled to take place. they both could've fought whithin weeks of eachother's fights, but don king interveined with this. thus, making it seem that vitali was unwilling to defend his crown.
Bull shit.
It was right after King jumped through hoops to get Rahman a fight that Klitschko suddenly was well enough to fight in Sept.
Very convenient.
And I don't know what the extent of the 1st delay was, but I certianly don't take your one sentence explaination of it.
Also, Vitali's back surgery originated in his thigh. He's now had 3 seperate injuries in training.
Anyway you try and sugar coat it (which you seem to do constantly), it's Vitali that's been putting this fight off.
actually, it's not the fourth time as some people might have you believe.
i've read some of what don king's crying is about, and it is not completely factual. shit, we're talking don king here, a guy who has already been exposed for fixing professional fight tournaments.
1 - he mentioned big k's "minor" back surgery. no such thing as "minor" back surgery. beleive me on this, you can ask 2 members of my family about what even supposed minor back surgery can do to you.
2 - vitali was ready for a september showdown, but dk has made people believe, somehow, that he claimed to be ready after the barret/rahman fight was signed. this was dk's way of making vitali even more inactive by not allowing vk to fight against a top ranked competitor to remain busy while rhaman vs barret was scheduled to take place. they both could've fought whithin weeks of eachother's fights, but don king interveined with this. thus, making it seem that vitali was unwilling to defend his crown.
3 - the first postponement was due to dkp and k2 proposition disagreements. not injuries.
sorry, but facts are facts.