Interesting Frank Warren quote

calzaghe has faster hands than roy jones in 2003, sure he does... calzaghe wanted the big fights, sure he did.. WAKE THE F-+K UP! Juy, you are a huge disappointment just when you start posting great stuff like the Hatton training you come back with this crap. Frank Warren says lots of good things about one of his fighters and how it was not his fault, that he did not get any fights? no shit?! Who gives a shit about something which has to be inherently biased, if it was the case the calzaghe ducked the ppl, would warren ever say that? hell no! it's his promoter

dude, dude, dude, you can only beat what is put in front of you and why do you keep bringing up this bullshit about titles. Funny how there's a list of Suppermiddleweights that beat the fighters he did fight that weren't "put in front of him". And the titles are important when there's been no unification fights in the division. Holding just the WBO title, hiding in the UK, and fighting stiffs is a joke. You're the one who can't get past that. Woodhall said that JC would murder Beyer in four rounds, Mitchell said after JC fight that he had never been hit so hard so often and that JC would definately beat Ottke, Sheika said that JC would beat Lacy, Reid said that JC would knockout Lacy. So a bunch of the meidocre fighter he fought thought he might have beaten the better fighters he didn't fight? Wow, that's some difinitive logic. Maybe the should have just given him all four titles. :rolleyes: at the end of the day JC has been the best in his division for a long, long time & the only tests for him would of been Hopkins or RJJ. At the end of the day JC AVOIDED many top rated Suppermiddles and failed to prove he was the best in the division. The Ring title has always been vacent at 168 for years now. 4th time: he had no business calling out pound for pound elite when he'd never faced a great fighter, and had many credible challenges available in his own division. You guys have nothing but excuses, "What if's", and delusions.

He's 40-0, and he's the longest-reigning world champion in the whole of boxing. He's held the WBO super-middleweight title for eight years now, and during that time he has beaten former WBC super-middleweight champion and Olympic medalist Robin Reid, former WBC super-middleweight champion and Olympic medalist Richie Woodhall, former IBF super-middleweight champion American Charles Brewer and former WBA super-middleweight champion American Byron Mitchell. He hasn't lost since 1990, he won three ABA titles at three different weights. He's accomplished a lot so far, and wins next year against Tarver and Lacy before retiring would throw him into the HOF and make him a true legend. I don't know what's more outright comical, Trying to insinuate he's fought good opposition, Trying to insinuate his WBO title reign is meaningfull with all the missed opportunities, Thinking he'd even fight Lacey and Tarver nevermind beat them, Thinking he's accomplished alot so far, Thinking he has the potential to retire a legend and make the hall of fame. Unreal. Lay off the delusional flavored tea buddy.

He's 40-0, and he's the longest-reigning world champion in the whole of boxing. He's held the WBO super-middleweight title for eight years now, and during that time he has beaten former WBC super-middleweight champion and Olympic medalist Robin Reid, former WBC super-middleweight champion and Olympic medalist Richie Woodhall, former IBF super-middleweight champion American Charles Brewer and former WBA super-middleweight champion American Byron Mitchell. He hasn't lost since 1990, he won three ABA titles at three different weights. He's accomplished a lot so far, and wins next year against Tarver and Lacy before retiring would throw him into the HOF and make him a true legend.

You've already told me no one heard of Hopkins before 01, and now you're just talking non sense. Eubank was washed up, Woodhall had just lost to Beyer, Brewer was beaten twice by Ottke and then KO'd by Echoles, and Mitchell was also coming off a fight with Ottke, knocked Joe down and then got a BS stoppage. Calling that list better is a joke. When he's got a list of fighters in his own weight class that he didn't fight, and just the WBO title, he has no business calling out elite fighters in other weight classes. That's defeated and piss poor logic. dude, dude, dude, you can only beat what is put in front of you and why do you keep bringing up this bullshit about titles. Woodhall said that JC would murder Beyer in four rounds, Mitchell said after JC fight that he had never been hit so hard so often and that JC would definately beat Ottke, Sheika said that JC would beat Lacy, Reid said that JC would knockout Lacy. at the end of the day JC has been the best in his division for a long, long time & the only tests for him would of been Hopkins or RJJ.

I've said it before... Calzaghe has been fighting for god knows how long, and we still don't know if he can fight...

Who the fuck are they ?? JC would of beaten all of them easily, and instead fought much better fighters like Eubank, Brewer, Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell et You've already told me no one heard of Hopkins before 01, and now you're just talking non sense. Eubank was washed up, Woodhall had just lost to Beyer, Brewer was beaten twice by Ottke and then KO'd by Echoles, and Mitchell was also coming off a fight with Ottke, knocked Joe down and then got a BS stoppage. Calling that list better is a joke. When he's got a list of fighters in his own weight class that he didn't fight, and just the WBO title, he has no business calling out elite fighters in other weight classes. That's defeated and piss poor logic.

Calzaghe could have fought: Sven Ottke, Eric Lucas, Markus Beyer, Anthony Mundine, Antwun Echols, Mikkel Kessler, Danny Green, Jeff Lacy. Who the fuck are they ?? JC would of beaten all of them easily, and instead fought much better fighters like Eubank, Brewer, Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell et al, JC wanted Hopkins or RJJ, not a bunch of a nobodies, As for Lacy, well JC has wanted the Lacy fight but Lacy chose to fight Reid instead of JC so its Lacy doin the duckin. JC has a date and a venue in Feb for Lacy but Lacy wont fight him, why? Probably becos Reid has said publicly that JC will knockout Lacy (Reid and JC hate eachother so why would he say that?). Lacy didnt want the JC fight earlier in the yr becos he "wasnt quite ready". Just watch JC easily beatin a fresh Sheika and Lacy strugglin with a faded Sheika.

well its the truth wether you like or not, JC isnt an "all time great" but in terms of actual physical ability and wantin the big fights hes the real deal, His resume sure proves that. The guy has fought bums for years.

And Jeff Lacy wasted his career hiding in USA Lacy has had 21 fights and he actually offered to come to Wales to fight Calzaghe but Calzaghe DISGRACEFULLY DUCKED LACY like the scared pussy he is.

the only challenges for JC were Hopkins and RJJ, Warren tried 24/7, 7 days a wk, 365 days in 02 to get a fight with Hopkins or RJJ You are out to luch. Calzaghe could have fought: Sven Ottke, Eric Lucas, Markus Beyer, Anthony Mundine, Antwun Echols, Mikkel Kessler, Danny Green, Jeff Lacy. You're not getting it. He never had a great win agaisnst a meaningful opponent, and he was never a unified or undisputed champion. He fought for nearly a decade at 168 and there's nothing but a long list of excuses for why he didn't fight the top contenders. There's nothing but TALK with Calzaghe and Warren. TALK about how everyone was avoiding them, TALK about how a number of fighters were ducking him, and all they did was sit in the UK fighting meidocre opposition. I don't buy any of it. I don't believe it's eveyone's fault but Joe's that he never secured those fights, and I don't buy for a second he had any interest in actually fighting Jones or Hopkins, nor did he deserve to.

RJJ wouldnt fight him, wot a stupid question, All Calfaggie had to do was move up and come to Aerica and it was on and Calfaggie gets schooled.

It's a joke for anyone to be asserting that All time GREAT fighters avoided a guy who's spent his whole career avoiding people, lacking a meaningfull career defining win of any sorts. :rolleyes: well its the truth wether you like or not, JC isnt an "all time great" but in terms of actual physical ability and wantin the big fights hes the real deal,

Jones Jr by 2003 wouldn't of been all that competitive, with Calzaghe coming up in weight even bigger and even stronger than usual. Come on, let's be real. Calzaghe would of beaten him, I agree with Warren on this one. Look, Calzaghe would of had much faster hands than Jones Jr had they fought in 2003. Infact Calzaghe had faster hands in combination than Jones Jr ever had (Jones Jr had faster single pot shots and faster reflexes though). I believe that Calzaghe would of forced him to trade by coming onto him, timing those leaps forward and getting inside at some point and trading, and then the chins would be the difference (Calzaghe's solid, Jones Jr's shaky). You really are delusional. Roys hand speed still is much better then Joes ever was and Joe doesn't even punch correctly he slaps like a girl. Calzaghe doesn't have a good chin himself and has never been hit by a 175lb fighter. Roy would have schooled Joe easily, patheticully easily.

You're full of shit, and absolutly delusional. Calzaghe is a sheltered coward who's wasted his career hiding in Whales. And Jeff Lacy wasted his career hiding in USA

It's a joke for anyone to be asserting that All time GREAT fighters avoided a guy who's spent his whole career avoiding people, lacking a meaningfull career defining win of any sorts. :rolleyes:

And that's because he was a sheltered Supermiddle who never beat a prime world class fighter. Again, he had plenty of challenges at 168 he managed to avoid. He had no business calling out pound for pound elite in a higher weight class when he was fighting meidocre opposition in his own weight class, having failed to unify any other belt to go with his WBO "title". titles mean absolutely nothing, and who were these "plenty of challenges" you speak of? Markus Beyer? give me a break hes no challenge, Beyer was nowhere near as gd as Reid or Woodhall as proved when Woodhal was robbed, and Reid or Woodhall were nowhere nr as gd as JC as proved when JC beat Reid with one arm and beat up Woodhall, the only challenges for JC were Hopkins and RJJ, Warren tried 24/7, 7 days a wk, 365 days in 02 to get a fight with Hopkins or RJJ

RJJ wouldnt fight him, wot a stupid question, Why would he? High risk, low reward for him, when he could take the safer fight in Ruiz with nearly as much money. If he beats Calzaghe, well, he's a sheltered SMW his whole career who wasn't really tested before that fight.. no big deal. He loses, he's in big shit, and Calfaggie is the next big thing. However, should he move up and beat Ruiz then he's a sensation. And if he loses, well, he's several classes above his original weight.

RJJ wouldnt fight him, wot a stupid question, And that's because he was a sheltered Supermiddle who never beat a prime world class fighter. Again, he had plenty of challenges at 168 he managed to avoid. He had no business calling out pound for pound elite in a higher weight class when he was fighting meidocre opposition in his own weight class, having failed to unify any other belt to go with his WBO "title".

IF joe is naturally bigger why the fuck hasn't he ever moved up in weight answer his a scared bitch RJJ wouldnt fight him, wot a stupid question,